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Can you guess who I want to win?

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Well, i hope the premiership/league, isn't another drab and boring grind like last season was, alot of the games was just awfull, and it's classed as the best league in the world.....

Take example, Gerrard thinks Joe Cole is better then Messi, is most of the so called top england stars that brain dead?

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Can you guess who I want to win?


huh.. the "new Brazil" ? :D

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Introducing Neymar!

Goal!!!!!!

And now mr. Pato...


Goal Two!!!

Modifié par RageGT, 11 août 2010 - 12:57 .


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Its on ESPN here but I've missed the first half. Its also got american commentators which just sounds weird. Brazil look very sharp.

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Noir201 wrote...

Well, i hope the premiership/league, isn't another drab and boring grind like last season was, alot of the games was just awfull, and it's classed as the best league in the world.....
Take example, Gerrard thinks Joe Cole is better then Messi, is most of the so called top england stars that brain dead?

Lol I had a right chuckle at that. Delusional scousers they are claiming "this is our year" again despite being awful last year. They are a complete joke summed up by Gerrard and statements like that.

This youtube clip sums Gerrard up nicely (note the dive against Bolton is possibly the worst dive I've ever seen) I think he is the worst diver in the Premier League, not that he does it the most, he is just awful at it.....


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Druss99 wrote...

Its on ESPN here but I've missed the first half. Its also got american commentators which just sounds weird. Brazil look very sharp.


How do they call them on ESPN? Goose and Duck? eheheh (Ganso and Pato)

*sighs* sidebar 2 x 0 Brazil...  Lucky US team.. should be 4 or 5 x 0 against them! =P

Modifié par RageGT, 11 août 2010 - 01:49 .


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End game result: Brazil 2 goals and 1 touchdown x 0 USA - hahaha

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RageGT wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Its on ESPN here but I've missed the first half. Its also got american commentators which just sounds weird. Brazil look very sharp.


How do they call them on ESPN? Goose and Duck? eheheh (Ganso and Pato)

*sighs* sidebar 2 x 0 Brazil...  Lucky US team.. should be 4 or 5 x 0 against them! =P

I didn't hear Ganso mentioned at all just Neymar and Pato. They were pronouncing things strangely and kept talking about Landon Donovan from what little I heard. I had to turn it off because I fear new things. :alien:

Brazil looked excellent from what little I saw though.

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Pato and Neymar are great young players, they should play at WC 2010 like Fredrich in Germany.



*Jose Morinho is gathering de best in Real Madrid these days. the only thing Barcelona has advantage of is David Villa.

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Actually, the real maestro of that team is Paulo César Ganso. The guy can see thing that others don't and he usually see them a lot sooner than other who can too. He was a bit nervous last night and still managed a nice shot at the sidebar and some awesome plays. He's 20 and that was his first match with the adults Nationals.

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Noir201 wrote...

Well, i hope the premiership/league, isn't another drab and boring grind like last season was, alot of the games was just awfull, and it's classed as the best league in the world.....

Don't get your hopes up. You have us, Newcastle United, in your league again. -_-

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so which team is the best team of Brazil?

I know Flamengo, Corinthians, Flaminenze and Palmeiras

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so which team is the best team of Brazil?
I know Flamengo, Corinthians, Flaminenze and Palmeiras


Well, there's really a bunch of great teams here. There is no The Best. It's not like Spain where there are only two, or England with what, 4 teams that are always the National Champions. Italy used to have more top teams but lately it seems to be a one team country.

Brazilian National titles that I will mention are counted only since 1971 with its new format. There were previous tournaments. I think FIFA website or Wikipedia has a list with all champs since early 20th century.

From São Paulo State, we have
São Paulo FC (6 national Titles, 3 World Club Titles (against Milan, Barcelona and Liverpool, 6 Libertadores finals), Corinthians (my team =) - 4 National titles, 1st FIFA Club World Champion with the new format in 2000),
Palmeiras (4 National titles - 1 World club final - Lost to Man UTD for the joy of Corinthians fans!),
Santos (2 national titles, 2 World Club Titles in the '60s against Benfica and Milan - Pele's club in those days)

From Rio de Janeiro: (all with national titles)
Flamengo - 5 national and 1 world title against Liverpool
Vasco da Gama
Fluminense
Botafogo

From Minas Gerais: (same)
Cruzeiro
Atlético Mineiro

From Rio Grande do Sul: (same)
Internacional  - world title against Barcelona in 2006 - next champ on Libertadores to face Inter Milano late this year (won first leg as visitor tonight 2x1 against Chivas Guadalajara in México)
Grêmio - world champs as well, against Hambug.

There are more teams that won the Brazilian Championship and are still great teams. Every Brazilian championship has at least 10 out of the 20 teams on A League as possible champions and during the tournament, there's rarely one team that is with a huge lead with half way to go like many other countries.

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Yes there are good teams, but most of their Titles are from old times of football (as you know every country is upgrading his football like Japan, Switzerland it becomes harder every year to achieve championship ).

Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos have played good for your team. It seems Ronaldo is going to retire, is that true?

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Adriano87 wrote...

Yes there are good teams, but most of their Titles are from old times of football (as you know every country is upgrading his football like Japan, Switzerland it becomes harder every year to achieve championship ).
Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos have played good for your team. It seems Ronaldo is going to retire, is that true?


Not sure what you mean about their titles are from old times of football? the World Club championship? Actually, after Santos and Pelé's titles in the 60's, only in the 80's a Brazilian team won that title again. And since them, lots of them with latest in 2005 and 2006. This year we'll have Inter de Porto Alegre vs Inter de Milano in Dubai.

Roberto Carlos is playing his finest. He should have been in the WC team! He and André Santos (another Corinthians player now in Turkey) are the two best in their position.

As for Ronaldo, you have to watch to understand. After 429 days without a game because of his latest injury while playing for AC Milan, he chose Corinthians to play for in yet another come back and see how it went:



He's supposed to play until the end of 2011. And he's still the best!

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I mean World Club Championships that are few.
and yea Rolando is the Gladiator and a rapid one ... but it took 20 mins to be loaded (for first 3 minutes only) :(

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Adriano87 wrote...

I mean World Club Championships that are few.
and yea Rolando is the Gladiator and a rapid one ... but it took 20 mins to be loaded (for first 3 minutes only) :(


Brazilian teams were never good at Libertadores up to the 80's (except Santos twice in the 60's) specially because football was the last thing seen in those days. It was war. Uruguay and Argentina's team would do msot dirty tricks in and out the field to win their home matches. But from the 80's on there is a clear supremacy off Brazilian teams and football (alternating with Argentina's teams) since there was live TV now and things had to become more clean or FIFA would punish the teams.

About the video, blame it on YouTube! Try again. It has all 2009 Ronaldo's goals and some of them are unmatched masterpieces!

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YT is definitely censored in our country and isn't available to use. I was using anti-filter to see Ronaldo clip and it was slower than my real connection speed.

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Ronaldo is still a great player but he looks like he is missing the speed that made him so deadly. Still fantastic skill and dribbling though, what age is he now?

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Il Fenomeno's Page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo

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Druss99 wrote...

Ronaldo is still a great player but he looks like he is missing the speed that made him so deadly. Still fantastic skill and dribbling though, what age is he now?


I think he's 34 this year. Note that one of the goals in that video, in the Sao paulo state championship semi-final against São Paulo, Ronaldo won a long race against a 10 years younger defender to score in the 2x0 win for Corinthians. (Which later defeated Santos in the final with that amazing over the head goal in the 3x1 first match win.

He still has the explosion and speed but the speed of his thoughts is unmatchable. That's the speed that really makes him special.

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Look at our League Table. my team 'Foolad' Khuzestan is 4th ... they play good I'm proud of them. also the 1st team of our league is from our state in south west :)

http://www.soccerway...regular-season/



and the top scorer of our league is now a Brazilian: Edinho (Éder Luciano born on Cariacica) - age 28

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http://www.tribalfoo...el-azin-1047801



Enjoy Muslims! specially at Heart of New York with Obama's Mosque

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LOL Firing the best player because he didn't do his fasting? Is that normal? What about you Adriano? Did you do it? Are you muslim? Sunita or Xiita? Xiita means those who followed the cousin and son-in-law of the profet doesn't it? Someone named Ali?



heh.. I'm Leo Alli because the guy at the customs in Brazil 1911 changed the name of my grandpa who had just arrived from Lebanon at the age of 11. (I guess his name was Ali something and they changed it to Vicente Alli). Never got to know him though. Leo is from the other grandpa who was son of a Portuguese couple. =)