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[Sparrow44]

Would also explain many conspiracy theories...like..like Ancelotti's people's eyebrow and Big Mick winking at the camera...

...and John Terry out of breath in every Chelsea game...

[Druss99]

Wasn't there a team with cheerleaders not too long ago? I could swear I remember seeing them forming two lines as players walked out between them.

I once gave cheerleading a try you know. But I got told to pack it in for apparently I was going to get booked because of my language and I was apparently supposed to be tracking back not abusing people. People just don't understand art...

[Nattfare]

Sparroww wrote...

Distract the players? The cheerleaders are there to distract the fans when you're teams doing sh!t.

I could use a cheerleader whenever that fat greedy cockney bastard is mentioned.

Welcome back Druss.

[Kimosabe]

OBakaSama wrote...

Looking at the debt level that isn't too bad when compared to the debt over at some English clubs. Are you aware of many clubs in the Netherlands going into administration, Kimosabe?

A bit, the KNVB (the Dutch football bond) presents a list of all the clubs in the 1st and 2nd league divided into 3 categories according to their financial position.

Of all those clubs 15 are in what they call 'category 1' which means they have to get their finance in order within 3 years, else they will lose their licence. In this category Exelcior, Feyenoord, NEC, Roda JC, Vitesse (all eredivisie) and Willem II, AGOVV, Cambuur, Leeuwarden, RBC, Fortuna, MVV and Veendam (all 2nd divison) are in their 2nd year, NAC Breda (eredivisie) and FC Emmen (second division) are new in category 1.

Then category 2 are clubs where the finances are 'worring' but not critical, 15 clubs are in this category, including Ajax and PSV
And category 3 are clubs that are financially health, only FC Twente, VVV-Venlo, Go Ahead Eagles, Telstar en FC Volendam are in this category.

[OBakaSama]

At least they seem to know what they are doing in the Netherlands (especially the authorities; the English FA has a fit and proper persons test and...well, the previous owners of Portsmouth passed it, but the club just went from bad to worse). Connected with the new rules/regulations that Platini want wants concerning debt levels, expenditure and European competitions...I'm curious whether certain big clubs will be barred from participating at the cost of the competition itself.

Yes, for shame I missed the parade. *Grumbles discontently even more*

Oh, anyone see that Chris Baird has been charged by the FA concerning a V-sign at the referee. That they punish. Surely verbal abuse is worse...

[Druss99]

Gerrard did the exact same thing either this season or last and got away with it OBaka. Once again the FA is a complete joke. Be interesting to see if they keep this up or mysteriously stop it as soon as it involves a Chelsea or Liverpool player.

The whole thing in Scotland with Neil Lennon is getting out of hand.

Play offs start tonight it seems. Either that or Sky are taking the utter ****** out of Don Goodman.

[OBakaSama]

Hm...sounds like it'll be result watching time for me again. Be interesting to see who goes up.

Actually, it was interesting to see all three sides promoted to the Championship not get relegated.

The worst thing about the FA is the sheer inconsistency concerning their punishments; it seems random.

Also...after the entire kerfuffle between Barcelona and Real, it's intriguing that Busquets is has to face a panel (or something) regarding alleged racist abuse. After all the mudslinging this seems to have garnered more attention from them upstairs.

[Bozorgmehr]

OBakaSama wrote...

At least they seem to know what they are doing in the Netherlands (especially the authorities; the English FA has a fit and proper persons test and...well, the previous owners of Portsmouth passed it, but the club just went from bad to worse). Connected with the new rules/regulations that Platini want wants concerning debt levels, expenditure and European competitions...I'm curious whether certain big clubs will be barred from participating at the cost of the competition itself.

Platini's plan looks good on paper, but it's not likely going to change much. Key in his proposal is the connection between the club's income and the total wage bill - I recall a club may only spent a fixed % on wages. This sounds good, but it's very easy to pay players and staff through other means. Clubs are already using other means to seduce youngsters (and their parents) to switch clubs, and although clubs are not allowed to give a 12 years old kid a contract - for example - making his dad a +100,000 / year bus driver instead is usually enough to persuade the family

It would be great for the sport in general if there were rules to ensure financial fairplay, it's lame that some clubs with over 1 bln in depth can still purchase a couple of new player spending hundreds of mlns whilst an other club is taken out of competion because they're a couple thousand short.

[OBakaSama]

I would have thought that wages would encompass all staff at the club and not just playing staff myself. If the proposal only considers playing staff then you're right, Bozorgmehr, that's a loophole right there.

If wages means to encompass all staff, then they can't use that as a way to escape censure (as it were).

[Bozorgmehr]

OBakaSama wrote...

I would have thought that wages would encompass all staff at the club and not just playing staff myself. If the proposal only considers playing staff then you're right, Bozorgmehr, that's a loophole right there.

If wages means to encompass all staff, then they can't use that as a way to escape censure (as it were).

I'm not sure if it includes all staff, but I think it is. However, this does not stop any club paying more. Let's say you're very rich and own a football club. Although your club can't afford player X (because Platini's proposal would block the signing when the current wage bill already exceeds the agreed percentage). You can still 'sign' player X and put him on the payroll for nothing. Obviously, player X won't play for nothing but you're free to make X 'director of doing nothing' of some other (non-football related) company and have that (virtual) company pay X.

UEFA can't stop that - if you'd like to pay me 5 mln a year for posting her at the BSN, you can - no law can stop you doing something like that. You wouldn't hear me complaining if you did

[OBakaSama]

Hm...money for posting on a forum...if only.....

Yeah, that's pretty much true what you say on wages. Also, the owner can pump funds directly into the club, though I think there's only so much they are allowed to do so, and that cash injection cannot be levied on the club; it is non-refundable as it were. So the wealthy owner of a club could buy a player for the club, and pay them out of their own pocket, but only if all that does not exceed their allowance that year.

[Druss99]

Is there anything to stop a rich owner say buying 200 club shirts at £2 million each and declaring that club profits?

I see the FA have called Sir Alex into the dock again this time for saying Howard Webb is the best ref in the country. Brilliant.

[Nattfare]

Best referee and England mentioned in the same sentence? Can see why Ferguson should be scolded for that.

[OBakaSama]

I smell a conspiracy....

So basically, managers just shouldn't express their opinions before a game. For the most part they can't really express it after the game either. I suppose they just shouldn't express their opinions on the game of football or anything related to it in private either just in case the News of the World launch a sting on them....

[Druss99]

I think its more that some managers shouldn't express their opinion. Like I said last week I don't understand why the announce the ref so long before the game. It should be a surprise on the day, like christmas but really really sh*t. Which I suppose is exactly like christmas.

[OBakaSama]

Christmas is that bad is it? Oh well...

Oh...and congrats to Man Utd supporters!

[Sparrow44]

Singing "knocked them off their f***ing perches".....

...Ah yes well played for United, first goal to Blackburn was a bit of a surprise I think for even for the defenders and of course glad we pulled one back with the penalty.

Despite success on the other side of the city, a happy day for us all round.

[OBakaSama]

Missed the match (as I usually do), but I was rooting for Stoke to do a job on Man City. That would have been fun.

Now...we seem to be in a peculiar position of several clubs whose fans can claim it will be 'our year'.

[Sparrow44]

City fans' "this will be our year" will be worse than Liverpool's I fear, though funnily enough I can see Norwich fan's saying "this will be our year" despite only just promoted...

...I mean they've done consecutive promotions, what's next? A major cup title next year? lol

Modifié par Sparroww, 14 mai 2011 - 06:55 .

[CroGamer002]

Zdravko Mamić




Epic fail got new meaning.


No, wait. That happen years ago.

[OBakaSama]

A major cup title for Norwich? We'd win the World Cup if we were legible. *Cough*

Our record in cup competitions is rather poor. I don't even remember a good cup run for years. As for the league...be pleasantly surprised if we don't get relegated. (Would still retain gloating rights over Ipswich though.)

[Sparrow44]

Gloating rights over Ipswich would mean a good season for Norwich I'm guessing.

Wasn't there the famous Milk Cup victory for the canaries?

[Bozorgmehr]

One hour away form the Dutch Premier League Climax! AFC Ajax take on FC Twente, number two against number one. Ajax who have the home advantage need a win to claim the league title; Twente needs a draw to retain the title.

FC Twente FTW