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[MassOverload]

Alright, so here we go.

Dragon Age: Origins will play smoothly for a good fifteen minutes, and then slowdown atrociously. It is probably the memory leak, which patch 1.04 did not fix for me.

My specs are:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13 GHz
4 GB RAM
320 GB Hard Drive

I've tried a whole lot of stuff to no avail

By the way, when I had Vista 64-Bit, the game worked fine.

I really need a solution to this dreadful problem.

[MassOverload]

I guess any chance of help is gone...

[Nathan Willis]

Hi MassOverload, what exactly have you tried so far?

[MassOverload]

Lowering my settings and resolution, configuring my NVIDIA control panel for maximum performance, running in compatibility mode, and a lot of other things.



Also, now I'm getting this odd flickering of trees and objects in Ostagar, my current location. I don't know if it happens anywhere else though.

[searanox]

This has been a problem for the game since release. Don't think it's going away, considering the strict limitations that BioWare has regarding what they can and can't change about the game.

[Nathan Willis]

9800M - are you on a laptop? Have you got the latest drivers for your machine? Also, though I hate to suggest it, have you tried a complete un/re-install/re-patch? As always, be sure to back up your savegames. Are you running third party mods of any sort? Lastly, have you tested it on a fresh game when all of that is said and done?



Thanks - nailing down the odd problem like this here and there has been very difficult, so my apologies for the shotgun blast of things to try.

[MassOverload]

I just unistalled and reinstalled, I'll post results once I play a bit.

[MassOverload]

Okay, so here we go.



I unistalled and reinstalled, started the game up with the save I was using before I reinstalled. The flickering of trees and random yellow flashes continued, but I didn't play with it long enough to record slowdown.



I started a new game with a human noble, and didn't experience any slowdown for the good fifteen minutes I played. I also didn't notice any flickering in Highever. It could just occur in Ostagar. Anyways, I then made a Dalish Elf real quick and finally hit slowdown at the beginning of that origin. Still, it seemed to go longer without slowdown.



Also, I haven't installed any patches yet, I'm not sure about it...

[Rejuvinator2]

I'm having the exact same problems.  The game used to work fine when I had 64bit Vista installed, but I had to format my HDD a month ago and install Windows 7.   Every other game I have still works great.  But Dragon Age starts to get rediculously slow framerate issues after 15 minutes of play. 
Btw.  My specs are nearly the same as above. 
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13 GHz
4 GB RAM
240 GB Hard Drive
All of my drivers, and directx are completely up to date. 

[MassOverload]

We both have exactly the same specs, except for our hard drive.

[searanox]

Sounds like it could be a driver issue on NVIDIA's side. The flickering and slowdown also suggests that your GPU, the GeForce 9800M, may be overheating. The G92 chip used in the 9800M is known for having problems related to overheating, with many chips giving out after two to three years of use.

[Rejuvinator2]

I just reinstalled all my drivers from the manufacturer. I'm using older ones for windows Vista that would have come with the computer (even though I'm now using Windows 7 - both 64bit). I also reinstalled DA. This time I made sure my Anti Virus was completely turned off (just in case!). Upon reinstalling the drivers, I noticed that all of the Nvidia drivers come with HD audio drivers attached. This time I unchecked the HD audio component on the graphic driver install. I also made sure by reinstalling the manufacturer's audio drivers (Realtek in my case).



I'm using the default scan settings 800x600 wth low detail, high textures, and no AA. It seems "ok" so far. I made it through 30 minutes with only slight hiccups but no slowdowns. The game did semi-freeze before a cutscene, but that was circumvented by esacping to the desktop and remaximizing the game. The cutscene instantly started and game ran smoothly for 5 more minutes before I logged out (by choice!). In all, I made it through a record 7 cutscenes (my previous high score was 3 and the third always lagged so terribly I was forced to shut it off)



It's too soon to tell if it's "fixed," but I'll post again if the solution either seems more permanant or fails utterly.

[Gorath Alpha]

Have you obtained and installed temperature monitors to log that reading while you are playing, as per the suggestion about the Geforce 8n00 / 9n00 cards' high frequency of overheating (especially in systems not designed for gaming -- such as laptops)?

[Rejuvinator2]

It’s a gaming laptop, and when I had Vista I used to run the game with graphics on FULL with No Problems at all. I am more than a little miffed that I have to run the game at such low settings now. Unless DA is more intensive than games with 100% better graphics (that still run fine on Windows 7 btw), I seriously doubt my GPU is overheating.

If this issue is any indication of Bioware's efficiency and QC, I have serious doubts that I'll be buying DA 2.

Sorry if I sound brusk, I'm just frustrated that I have to work so hard just to play a game that wasn't free.  Thanks for the suggestions btw.  Since the issue is so pervasive, I suspect that it's software rather than hardware related.   Most likely due to some incompatibility with windows 7.   The transition to newer operating systems for legacy software is rarely a smooth one.

Modifié par Rejuvinator2, 22 juillet 2010 - 11:12 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Bioware / EA offer ZERO support to any laptop. They don't believe that there is such a thing as a cool-running, dependable, reliable, and trouble free portable PC. I agree with them. There are DESKTOP REPLACEMENT systems that have some external similarity to laptops, until you try to carry them around or actually sit it in your lap.

They aren't truly portable, are bulkier, noisier, and have far shorter battery life than true portable solutions offer. One of those, with a Geforce GTX 200 series graphics card in it, might almost qualify as a gaming system, if the display was big enough . .

[Rejuvinator2]

I think you're getting hung up on the hardware, when the difference that broke the game in both of our cases was a software issue. Unless Bioware is saying they don't support Windows 7? All of my other games work just as well on Windows 7 as Vista regardless of which version of drivers I have installed. Maybe I should repeat that Dragon Age worked fine for hours with graphics turned all the way up when I had Vista installed. That sounds like a stable gaming platform to me at least.

[DABhand]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Bioware / EA offer ZERO support to any laptop. They don't believe that there is such a thing as a cool-running, dependable, reliable, and trouble free portable PC. I agree with them. There are DESKTOP REPLACEMENT systems that have some external similarity to laptops, until you try to carry them around or actually sit it in your lap.
They aren't truly portable, are bulkier, noisier, and have far shorter battery life than true portable solutions offer. One of those, with a Geforce GTX 200 series graphics card in it, might almost qualify as a gaming system, if the display was big enough . .

Gorath I dont think you should talk for Bioware, I am sure they are happy to help anyone with either desktop or laptop's.

The 9800M's are capable of running DA:O, Infact I would prefer a 9800 over a 200 (upto 285), I consider the 210-260's as poor GPU's, in terms of stability and performance.

The only drawback the OP has, is his CPU, 2.1ghz cores wont help things though.

[Rejuvinator2]

ty DABhand



@Massoverload



I noticed something strange on Nvidia's driver website. The latest drivers for 64bit windows 7 and Vista are both deadlinks. Older versions (including the BETA of the latest driver) are fine, but the latest WHQL drivers for our machines leads you to HTTP 404 limbo. So for us, downloading the latest drivers isn't even an option. That's part of the reason why I got the retro drivers, and also because they were the ones that worked fine before. I'm also using the unpatched box version of DA:O.

[MassOverload]

I'm in a similar situation Rejuvinator. Unistalled, reinstalled, updated drivers, everything should work fine. At the moment, however, I have not tried the 800X600, but I might, I just can't stand that resolution...

[Rejuvinator2]

I realized that the biggest difference was made by having it at the lowest Graphics setting. Any higher and the game starts creeping toward the infamous Slowdown. For some reason it is also on the highest texture setting and runs OK. 800x600 isn't so bad since my eyes suck anyway from playing too many video games (haha). I am still very upset that I've lost so much performance though with Dragon Age on Windows 7. But at least the game is "almost" playable, since I can run the thing for at least 2 1/2 hours before things start getting consistently unstable. It's still very buggy, but ALT+TABing to the desktop every once in while seems to clear things up a bit for a while.



I wish Blizzard had made this game. They know how to debug, and more importantly, they really really know how to optimize.

[Melter]

Rejuvinator2 wrote...

I wish Blizzard had made this game. They know how to debug, and more importantly, they really really know how to optimize.

But then they would have called it DragonCraft or something balls.

WOW made me lose all respect for Blizzard, i wanted WC4 not wow :/


Anyways i get slow downs aswell so its nice to know its the game and not me

[Rejuvinator2]

OK I just said "screw it" and reloaded the factory defualt (including vista + stock drivers) from my recovery partition. So far so good. I can run the game on much higher settings with no issues. /shrug So much for Windows 7 being a great performance optimizer. I still get occassional slowdowns, but even on the highest settings in Vista, it's still better than the performance on the lowest setting with Windows 7. The slowdowns are very minor (really more like standard framerate issues) and they clear up on their own while playing. All in all, it runs as smoothly as I remember.

[Rejuvinator2]

FYI, I did eventually take Goraths advice into account. I elevated my laptop so the exhaust fan could have more ventilation. Combined with the Vista reinstall, the game is now is pretty stable for extended play (3+ hours).

[MassOverload]

I...can't do it. It just isn't worth it to reload the factory Vista default. Windows 7 is such a good operating system, besides the gaming instabiltiy. I...can't. Looks like I might have to wait until a patch that actually fixes my issues are released. Actually, with Dragon Age 2 coming out soon, and Diablo 3, I think I'm going to get a desktop one of these days. Eh, I'm rambling. I'm done with Dragon Age until they fix these optimization issues.

[Funkjoker]

I can confirm that the memory leak is NOT fixed. After 2 hours of gameplay, my CPU as well as my memory were using almost 100% of their capabilities; this does not happen with other games or when the game is started!



Phenom X4 945

4GB DDR3 Ram

Geforce GTX 460 OC 1GB

Vista 64



As you can see, it's a powerful machine capable for games the next 2 years. All drivers are up-to-date. Please fix the memory leak, BioWare!