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[R.U.N]

The armor doesn't matter.

Playing the CE Origin you got pretty heavy looking armor too before even reaching Ostagar.

Same goes for the Dwarf Noble One......



And who knows, this armor might just be a ''showcase'' armor at this point, because it looks better then rags.

[Brockololly]

I don't quite believe DA2 will be 3x longer than Origins...its not going to be a 240 hour game- its likely to do with the in game time being longer with the 10 year deal...

[Sabariel]

For a minute there I thought she had butt-wings, but it was her cloak/cape/thingie

[RunNeonTiger]

SirShreK wrote...

RunNeonTiger wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Who lives there with a Mage sister surrounded by Templars?

I doubt that....

I rather think He fought at Ostagar... Look at how well he is armoured..

Well if she were a good mage then she would no doubt be able to hide her powers. And what do you doubt? That Hawke is from Lothering? Haven't the devs said that Hawke is from Lothering or am I wrong?

You are not wrong.. But they did not say that he lived there... They mention that he escaped Loethering...

Well then that's my mistake, but I feel how Hawke and Bethany arrive in Lothering will sort of be determined by the player, whether it be class or something else. Or I could just be completely wrong and they've gotten something in place or how Hawke and Bethany get to Lothering isn't at all important but I have a feeling that it would be.

[armigal]

OMG! Her cloak. IT'S MOVING! Bioware, I love you.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Damn, this really looks like the finale to Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny, what with the devilishly horned Flemeth and Hawke essentially being a medieval Jack Black.

Hawke: Waaaaaaait! Waaaaaait! Waaaaait, you ugly dragon! We challenge you to a rock-off! Give us one chance to chance to rock your socks off!

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 21 juillet 2010 - 10:51 .

[wwwwowwww]

Wowlock wrote...

Well thats my point . As said , Hawke won't be staying around too long in Ferelden after Lothering and by your expectations it means Flemeth's ''old Hag mode'' still lives and this picture is not that Flemeth but a renewed one.

For Hawke to meet Flemeth's this form , either Warden must first complete Broken Circle quest , get the quest from Morrigan ( Lothering burned down at this point  and Hawke fled ) , confront Flemeth , decide whether you let her live or just kill her. Either way it is unlikely that she will pop-out at Lothering saying '' I just get killed by a Warden but I regained a better body , can I join you while you flee ? ''

That said , we actually don't know how her powers works except she is a powerful abomination and shapeshifter and probably can see future ( predictions about Maric and Warden ) but her Body changing legend even a mistery for Morrigan.  How can she change bodies at this short notice. I guess we need to wait some official info about her

I don't normally get into much speculation before games are released, but it's Flemeth. I'm not sure what your trying to say about "old hag mode"

It's already been stated that you meet flemeth at the beginning of the game, it's been stated (GI I believe) that she first arrives in Dragon form to basically save your character then transforms walking through fire saying "well well what do we have here?"

Since all of this happens at the beginning just after your warden has left lothering to begin their first real quest, then there is no way that it is a renewed Flemeth and that your warden has killed her already.

The natural flow of Origins (without knowing what you should do) would take most people from Lothering to Redcliff, as soon as you start Redcliff is when Lothering is overrun. Now I don't know about you but in order to kill flemeth you first had to do the mage tower correct? Then you give Morrigan the book and go on to doing something else before Morrigan tells you what she's discovered. Your talking a long time after Lothering has been overrun. What does this all mean? That's the same Flemeth that your warden met right after Ostagar, albeit with some DA:2 enhancements

[Wowlock]

RunNeonTiger wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

RunNeonTiger wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Who lives there with a Mage sister surrounded by Templars?

I doubt that....

I rather think He fought at Ostagar... Look at how well he is armoured..

Well if she were a good mage then she would no doubt be able to hide her powers. And what do you doubt? That Hawke is from Lothering? Haven't the devs said that Hawke is from Lothering or am I wrong?

You are not wrong.. But they did not say that he lived there... They mention that he escaped Loethering...

Well then that's my mistake, but I feel how Hawke and Bethany arrive in Lothering will sort of be determined by the player, whether it be class or something else. Or I could just be completely wrong and they've gotten something in place or how Hawke and Bethany get to Lothering isn't at all important but I have a feeling that it would be.

Well I think I heard from the podcast that Hawke and his family fled. That means maybe not just him/her and her sister. And if Lothering indeed his home , then it makes more sense

About Flemeth though my reason stays same.

I can put it like this :

Flemeth in her DA:O Form ( I call it Old hag  ) ---> Warden Completes Circle Quests and gets Morrigan's quest -------> After that Lothering has been destroyed -----> Hawke and his family fled  ---------> Warden Slays or let Flemeth go --------> Flemeth find a new body to host herself and meets Hawke after a while.  

Basicly my theory is this. If this screenshot is the first time she meet with Hawke then my theory can be true. I don't know how and when but meeting with her at Lothering seems low possibility to me.

[Firky]

marquiseondore wrote...

That's not a cloak!!!!   That's the train to her armor. I'm officially excited about this game.

I really like that concept art but why does this armour have a train? If it were me I'd tread on it during battle and fall over.

Also, that Flemeth screenshot seems to have a phoenix rising from the ashes quality to me. Which is what Morrigan said would happen eventually IIRC.

[9985]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Damn, this really looks like the finale to Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny, what with the devilishly horned Flemeth and Hawke essentially being a medieval. Jack Black.

Hawke: Waaaaaaait! Waaaaaait! Waaaaait, you ugly dragon! We challenge you to a rock-off! Give us one chance to chance to rock your socks off...

LOL Beezleboss 

Out of all the screenshots released and leaked so far, I am most giddy with this one. Maybe it's the moving train.

Modifié par 9985, 21 juillet 2010 - 11:14 .

[Sauronych]

Ok, probably the last bits of new info:
1) Matt Goldman, the art director, lists two major inspirations for the new art style.
This picture(for the atmosphere of "a horde of horrible and merciless creatures coming from nowhere"

And this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050613/
(a more simplified and abstract background to concentrate viewer/player's attention on the characters and important details)
Matt also made a remark that this doesn't mean the whole game will have simple environments like the desert we have seen. Everything is still very detailed, just more stylized.

2)An example of more dynamic combat. When you order an archer to shoot a target, he already has an arrow ready for that so he can act almost instantly instead of pulling the arrow out of the quiver etc.

Modifié par Sauronych, 21 juillet 2010 - 10:59 .

[armigal]

Wowlock wrote...

RunNeonTiger wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

RunNeonTiger wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Who lives there with a Mage sister surrounded by Templars?

I doubt that....

I rather think He fought at Ostagar... Look at how well he is armoured..

Well if she were a good mage then she would no doubt be able to hide her powers. And what do you doubt? That Hawke is from Lothering? Haven't the devs said that Hawke is from Lothering or am I wrong?

You are not wrong.. But they did not say that he lived there... They mention that he escaped Loethering...

Well then that's my mistake, but I feel how Hawke and Bethany arrive in Lothering will sort of be determined by the player, whether it be class or something else. Or I could just be completely wrong and they've gotten something in place or how Hawke and Bethany get to Lothering isn't at all important but I have a feeling that it would be.

Well I think I heard from the podcast that Hawke and his family fled. That means maybe not just him/her and her sister. And if Lothering indeed his home , then it makes more sense

About Flemeth though my reason stays same.

I can put it like this :

Flemeth in her DA:O Form ( I call it Old hag  ) ---> Warden Completes Circle Quests and gets Morrigan's quest -------> After that Lothering has been destroyed -----> Hawke and his family fled  ---------> Warden Slays or let Flemeth go --------> Flemeth find a new body to host herself and meets Hawke after a while.  

Basicly my theory is this. If this screenshot is the first time she meet with Hawke then my theory can be true. I don't know how and when but meeting with her at Lothering seems low possibility to me.

You guys seem to forget, that storytelling in Origins can be jumpy at times. If you play mage origin, when you get back to the circle tower it gets mentioned that you were away for a year. Same thing with Ostagar, you can return almost immediately upon finishing Lothering and suddenly there is winter in the region.

[Firky]

And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.



But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

[Wowlock]

yea , timeline is blurry that way. As I said it is only theory ( although a crazy one )



I wonder how long it took for us to get the Battle of Denerim ? 2 years ? 3 ? A lot of things can happen in that time especially with a blight ongoing.

[wwwwowwww]

Firky wrote...


And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.

But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Considering the Devs have all said that the events start and take place at the same time your Warden is running around, it's pretty safe to say that if you just fled and overrun Lothering that this is the same Flemeth your warden met early in their game. I don't think anywhere has it been mentioned how long Flemeth will be around, which leaves plenty of time for her to go back to her hut and be slain by the warden

[RunNeonTiger]

wwwwowwww wrote...

Firky wrote...


And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.

But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Considering the Devs have all said that the events start and take place at the same time your Warden is running around, it's pretty safe to say that if you just fled and overrun Lothering that this is the same Flemeth your warden met early in their game. I don't think anywhere has it been mentioned how long Flemeth will be around, which leaves plenty of time for her to go back to her hut and be slain by the warden

I understand the point you're trying to make and I do think it's fairly plausible despite the fact of the why and how Flemeth would change forms to meet Hawke.

[hxx7y]

marquiseondore wrote...

That's not a cloak!!!!   That's the train to her armor. I'm officially excited about this game.

Thats no moon...

[Wowlock]

wwwwowwww wrote...

Firky wrote...


And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.

But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Considering the Devs have all said that the events start and take place at the same time your Warden is running around, it's pretty safe to say that if you just fled and overrun Lothering that this is the same Flemeth your warden met early in their game. I don't think anywhere has it been mentioned how long Flemeth will be around, which leaves plenty of time for her to go back to her hut and be slain by the warden

Yes , it is a possibility that Hawke would meet her Origins form. But according to this screenshot , it seems she will meet him ''officially'' with her new body. With that said even if we meet Flemeth at the beginning , it won't be her new form I am sure of that. ( by beginning I mean Lothering time )

[Anarya]

Coooooool. Wanna wear that armor Hope we PCs get something that badass.

[wwwwowwww]

RunNeonTiger wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

Firky wrote...


And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.

But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Considering the Devs have all said that the events start and take place at the same time your Warden is running around, it's pretty safe to say that if you just fled and overrun Lothering that this is the same Flemeth your warden met early in their game. I don't think anywhere has it been mentioned how long Flemeth will be around, which leaves plenty of time for her to go back to her hut and be slain by the warden

I understand the point you're trying to make and I do think it's fairly plausible despite the fact of the why and how Flemeth would change forms to meet Hawke.

What do you mean the why's and how's? She's a shapeshifter, so the how is covered. As to why, does the old bat really need a reason?

[HapGhost]

marquiseondore wrote...

Ya know the game could be narrated out of sequence, it is after all being done in retrospect.

I had the same thought. That would make a lot of sence, setting up a meeting with Flemeth in the start of the game and then having flashbacks telling the story of how Hawke ended up here. 

[Firky]

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Crud. I thought he was a child at the Lothering crushing time but I have no idea where I picked that up. I guess I read into "fled with his family". 

@hapghost  That's what I think, too.

Modifié par Firky, 21 juillet 2010 - 11:21 .

[wwwwowwww]

Wowlock wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

Firky wrote...


And I don't reckon it is when Lothering was burned. If you meet her at the beginning of the game, whose to say that the action is chronological? (And if that is Hawke on the left, he doesn't look like a child.) My guess is that it's a later incarnation of Flemeth.

But I'm probably missing something obvious, so disprove me.

Why would Hawke be a child? There has been nothing stated of his age at the beginning of the game, just that he's fled with his family.

Considering the Devs have all said that the events start and take place at the same time your Warden is running around, it's pretty safe to say that if you just fled and overrun Lothering that this is the same Flemeth your warden met early in their game. I don't think anywhere has it been mentioned how long Flemeth will be around, which leaves plenty of time for her to go back to her hut and be slain by the warden

Yes , it is a possibility that Hawke would meet her Origins form. But according to this screenshot , it seems she will meet him ''officially'' with her new body. With that said even if we meet Flemeth at the beginning , it won't be her new form I am sure of that. ( by beginning I mean Lothering time )

How does that screen shot say you will meet her with her new body? I can't see details on the face that much, she's wearing a dfferent get up sure, but that doesn't mean it's a new body. Just means there was a lot more sexy to Flemeth underneath those dirty robes she was wearing. Less we not forget that the artwork/models are apparantly going to be a little different in DA:2 as well.