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[Hector_Of_Troy]

Hello comrades . Well I have a new found love for RPGs (I guess I'm gettting more mature in my game choices) and I'm currently playing DAO.
I have also bought a Baldur's Gate box set. I'm also thinking about buying NWN2. In your opinion, how do you compare BG2 to NWN2. WHich one is more fun and more of an epic RPG experience? Or is NWN2 just a BG2 copy with 3D graphics?
P.S. Does NWN2 feauture any snow  covered regions? For some reason that is my prefect fantasy game setting.

[Shallina]

Cool game , could have been better. NWN2 the first to return to real party RPG like BG with 3D.



The OC is cool, I found it more fun than DAO, but it's behind BG2 which is a monster game with very dated graphic now.



MOTB first expension of NWN2 is really awesome, something amazing, but a bit short.

SOZ was a gift to the modding community with lots a new content and creature.

[Arkalezth]

Well, this is a NWN2 forum, so people here probably like the game.



What makes both NWN great is the toolset. You can love or hate the official campaigns (worse than BG) and expansions, but there are tons of community modules, gameworlds and custom content that can keep you playing the game for years.

[Dorateen]

Hector_Of_Troy wrote...
P.S. Does NWN2 feauture any snow  covered regions? For some reason that is my prefect fantasy game setting.

If you like snow covered regions, then you really must try the Icewind Dale series, if you haven't already. It's a bit more hardcore, but a classic Dungeons & Dragons RPG.

As for NWN2, the second expansion Mask of the Betrayer does have a snow covered area to venture in.

Harumph!

[MindYerBeak]

What you also need to take into consideration is the Mods made for these RPG games. BG1, for example, can now be played in Widesreen. BG1 is due to be released by the end of the year as an NWN2 mod, with the better 3D graphics that go with it. There's a shedful of Mods for all these RPGs, ensuring a long life expectancy for each game. BG1 is still being supported by fans 20 years hence, such is their popularity. Then there's the Multiplayer aspect of each game, not available in DAO and unlikely ever to be. RPG games are the best value for money games you can buy. They endure for years and aren't binned and shelved after a few months.

[dunniteowl]

I like BG and NWN and NWN2 and I think they are all great. Who whoo whoo whooo am I to try to influence you?



dno

[c i p h e r]

BG2 for single-player. NWN2 for multi-player.

[avado]

If you are not a long time nwn player, then nwn2 is great. You will enjoy it immensely. Just be sure to get the OC and 2 expansions at the same time. THat way you get the full meal deal right from the start! I bought the game when it first came out and then MOTB when it came out and i couldnt live with the shortfalls that they fixed with later patches and the 3rd expansion. If you are going to do it, DO IT RIGHT!!

[Arkalezth]

ç i p h é r wrote...

BG2 for single-player. NWN2 for multi-player.

It's not that simple. NWN2 has lots of single player modules.

avado wrote...

If you are not a long time nwn player, then nwn2 is great.

Why "If you are not a long time nwn player"? I am and I like NWN2.

[avado]

Arkalezth wrote...

avado wrote...

If you are not a long time nwn player, then nwn2 is great.

Why "If you are not a long time nwn player"? I am and I like NWN2.

I am NOT getting sucked into that one again!  Yes, dunn, i learned my lesson, THANKS! 

Go search the old forums and you will understand.  Otherwise, it isnt important!

[OfficerDonNZ]

NWN2 isn't bad but the OC has its share of flaws, don't try and think about the plot too much otherwise you'll get a headache from thinking too hard. As there some events in the game that when you actually stop and think about them for a bit don't quite add up.



MotB is an improvment as for SoZ, well let's just say that really depends if you're a builder or not.



Don't be expeting anything much in the way of romances otherwise you'll feel badly let down. Though MotB did do this better than the OC, thank god.



NWN2's biggest strength like NWN beofre it are it's toolset and all the player made mods that are on the valut.

[Arkalezth]

avado wrote...

I am NOT getting sucked into that one again!  Yes, dunn, i learned my lesson, THANKS! 

Go search the old forums and you will understand.  Otherwise, it isnt important!

I think I know what you mean. But as I said, it's possible to like both games. And if it's what I think, that shouldn't matter to the OP.

SoZ, well let's just say that really depends if you're a builder or not.

I don't agree with that. Yes, it's good for builders, but you can also like the module itself. It's simply more focused on exploration and less on story than the OC and MotB, but it can be very enjoyable if you like that style.

[OfficerDonNZ]

Yes as you say if you like that style. I wasn't overly taken with SoZ.

[Lyssistr]

I'd say BG II is timeless, but personally I can't go back and replay it because of its graphics, lack of voiceover etc. That being said, I feel the game is a little overrated, it was very good, excellent, but if you read some comments around the 'net you'll think it's better than driving a Porsche, with Megan Fox on the seat next to you.



NWN2 OC is good, MotB is very good, SoZ & MoW I haven't played yet. NWN2 also has a plethora of mods, some of which are pretty good, one I'll be playing soonish is Pools of Radiance's remake. You may also want to keep an eye on BG I remake project - their screenshots were good enough to make me buy SoZ while waiting for release. I'd say mods are like having a huge breadth of DLC at your disposal. Also, imho, if NWN2 didn't have so many bugs on release, I think it would have a reputation as good as DAO, and it's a shame because the game is pretty stable nowadays.



Comparing BG II to NWN2 is tough, they're similar games but with almost a decade separating them, overall as a game, I'll have to go with NWN2. However, if the question was, which game was best *for its time*, I'd go with BG II.



If I had money for just one game now, I'd pick NWN2+expansions, I find it hard to believe that someone can get into BGII especially if (s)he hadn't played it back then, great game but gaming is at a different level these days.

[MindYerBeak]

One RPG that didn't fare as well as other RPGs, yet in my opinion, and the opinion of many others, is the best RPG ever made is Planescape: Torment. This RPG is nothing short of brilliant and if you're an RPG fan will have missed out if you've not played it. It's not yer usual 'Kill the Goblins and become Master of the Universe' type RPG. It's set in a different world to that of Orcs and Goblins and has nothing to do with becoming Master of the Universe. Annah the Teifling, Fall-From-Grace, Morte the Talking Skull and the Nameless One are unforgetabble characters. The storyline is rivetting, the ending is superb. There are reams and reams of text to read, none of it boring, and the music is the best that has ever been produced in any game.



If you've never played this game you'll die unhappy and have RPG regrets. You'll go to Hell in a hot air balloon because God will never forgive you for not having played it. You'll be mocked for eternity by RPG fans everywhere, in both Heaven and in Hell. Lucifer himself will call you a Prat and giggle at your demise, providing you with screenshots to add to your torture, yet never allowing you to play it. Morte the Talking Skull will chastise you in your dreams. Fall-From-Grace will pray for your deliverance in vain. The Nameless One will never tell you his name.



You have been warned.

[wizardryforever]

MindYerBeak wrote...

One RPG that didn't fare as well as other RPGs, yet in my opinion, and the opinion of many others, is the best RPG ever made is Planescape: Torment. This RPG is nothing short of brilliant and if you're an RPG fan will have missed out if you've not played it. It's not yer usual 'Kill the Goblins and become Master of the Universe' type RPG. It's set in a different world to that of Orcs and Goblins and has nothing to do with becoming Master of the Universe. Annah the Teifling, Fall-From-Grace, Morte the Talking Skull and the Nameless One are unforgetabble characters. The storyline is rivetting, the ending is superb. There are reams and reams of text to read, none of it boring, and the music is the best that has ever been produced in any game.

If you've never played this game you'll die unhappy and have RPG regrets. You'll go to Hell in a hot air balloon because God will never forgive you for not having played it. You'll be mocked for eternity by RPG fans everywhere, in both Heaven and in Hell. Lucifer himself will call you a Prat and giggle at your demise, providing you with screenshots to add to your torture, yet never allowing you to play it. Morte the Talking Skull will chastise you in your dreams. Fall-From-Grace will pray for your deliverance in vain. The Nameless One will never tell you his name.

You have been warned.

And yet, you can't find it anywhere on this Earth for sale.  Maybe I'll have better luck in hell.

[OfficerDonNZ]

You either like Planescape: Torment or you hate it. Once I got a copy I was very underwhlemed by it sad to say. You'll have a strong reaction to it good or bad.

Modifié par OfficerDonNZ, 22 juillet 2010 - 06:01 .

[KrisM77]

dunniteowl wrote...

I like BG and NWN and NWN2 and I think they are all great. Who whoo whoo whooo am I to try to influence you?

dno

finally got that chicken suit off I see!!!

[Haplose]

MindYerBeak wrote...

One RPG that didn't fare as well as other RPGs, yet in my opinion, and the opinion of many others, is the best RPG ever made is Planescape: Torment. This RPG is nothing short of brilliant and if you're an RPG fan will have missed out if you've not played it. It's not yer usual 'Kill the Goblins and become Master of the Universe' type RPG. It's set in a different world to that of Orcs and Goblins and has nothing to do with becoming Master of the Universe. Annah the Teifling, Fall-From-Grace, Morte the Talking Skull and the Nameless One are unforgetabble characters. The storyline is rivetting, the ending is superb. There are reams and reams of text to read, none of it boring, and the music is the best that has ever been produced in any game.

If you've never played this game you'll die unhappy and have RPG regrets. You'll go to Hell in a hot air balloon because God will never forgive you for not having played it. You'll be mocked for eternity by RPG fans everywhere, in both Heaven and in Hell. Lucifer himself will call you a Prat and giggle at your demise, providing you with screenshots to add to your torture, yet never allowing you to play it. Morte the Talking Skull will chastise you in your dreams. Fall-From-Grace will pray for your deliverance in vain. The Nameless One will never tell you his name.

You have been warned.

Signed.
Best cRPG ever.

[nestorprado]

Loved NWN2 even more than NWN, BG and BG2. And MOTB is really cool once you get used to it.

[MindYerBeak]

Planescape Torment is slow to start off, but if you persevere you'll be well rewarded.
You can purchase PST from http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B002TOKQIG

For only £11 it's a bargain and God will love you forever.

[wizardryforever]

MindYerBeak wrote...

Planescape Torment is slow to start off, but if you persevere you'll be well rewarded.
You can purchase PST from http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B002TOKQIG

For only £11 it's a bargain and God will love you forever.

Huh, that's odd.  It's still for sale in Europe but not in the states.  I looked for it all over the place a while back and couldn't find it anywhere, except for one eBay entry where it was going for something like $115.  Way more than I'm willing to spend on a game, especially one that's more than ten years old.

I wonder why it still sells across the Atlantic?  Just that good, I guess?

Anyway, I thinkg NWN2 covers D&D 3.5 pretty well, and is the only cRPG that I know of to do so adequately.  That said, it is definitely fun, even if you have no experience with D&D.

[Leinadi]

They started selling it again recently (think towards the end of last year?).

[Domi_Sotto]

I love both BG series and NWN2. SoZ is the only offereing I didn't like. And modding capabilities of NWN2 are the best currently for a non-specialist as far as I understand. I just... really enjoy NWN2; I am replaying it now putting a new romance in, and it has the charm that grows stronger with every time just like BG did. I am also a huge fan of JE, it's awsomely written game, but controls are murder.

[PanosSmirnakos]

BG 2 was a masterpiece in its time, but for someone who is going to play it for the first time now, he / she probably will be disappointed. It's a 10 years old game.

NWN 2 is a more recent game, with an ok story and similar to DAO (actually more similar than BG 2 which was supposed to be its spiritual successor), especially in the battle system. It’s not as memorable as BG 2 or DAO but, NWN 2 has a brilliant expansion called "mask of the betrayer" which IMO has the most original and well written dark fantasy story I’ve ever played, so for that alone I can easily recommend NWN 2 to any RPGamer.

Modifié par PanosSmirnakos, 22 juillet 2010 - 11:15 .