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[Adam024]

For the past few months, I have a weird graphics problem that randomly pops up. Colors appear all over the place, once in awhile the neverwinter "eye" logo wallpapers the screen. Cometimes there is more color all over the place when I hold the Z button. I have tried auto etect settings a few time, but nothing. Normally I have to restart the game.

The other day, I changed from full screen to window mode, then  back, and it went back to normal.

Any idea what is happening? Is this the work of the King of Shadows?

[Gorath Alpha]

Platform? If PC, see Selene's outline above (now edited -- here's a copy)
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Please post your system information when when requesting assistance to help others to be better able to help you, using the format shown below:


    Game Version: NWN 2 1.00 (also include exspansions installed)
    Game Language: English
    Retail or Digital: Retail CD / Retail DVD / Direct 2 Drive (or other digital vendor)
    Processor Manufacturer: AMD / Intel
    Processor Type: Athlon 64 / Pentium / dual core, Pentium D (2 CPUs), i7 Quad Core, etc.
    Processor Speed: ?.? GHz
    Operating System / Service Pack: Such as WindowsXP/SP2, Windows Vista/SP1, etc.
    System RAM: ?? GBs
    Video Card Manufacturer: Such as ATI, NVIDIA, Intel, etc.
    Video Card Model: (Expl -- Radeon x1900 / Geforce 7900)
    Video Card RAM: 256 megs
    Video Card Driver Version: Catalyst 6.10 / 91.47 (use numbers, not the word latest)
    Sound Card Manufacturer: Creative Labs of whatever make or brand
    Sound Card Model: SB XFi or whatever applies for your sound card
    Sound Card Driver Version: 4.34 (again, numbers please)
    CD/ROM Type: (CD/ROM or CD/RW, SCSI IDE, etc)
    DVD Type: (DVD/ROM or DVD/RW, SCSI IDE, etc.)
    Hard Drive Type: (SCSI, IDE, SATA)
    Free Disk Space:  C/15GB (Indicate additional drive letters and amount of free space where game and saved files are located if you have multiple or partitioned drives).
    Power Supply:  (include wattage rating of the power supply and amperage on the 12-volt rail for PCs). This information is usually available on a label on the power supply.

    Description: Describe your technical problem as best as you can

~Selene Moonsong

Please use normal business punctuation, spelling, and paragraph breaks, not wall to wall unreadable blocks, nor any strange leet substitutions for normal words and spellings.  Much of what you described is usually the result of seriously overheated video graphics devices.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 17 août 2010 - 07:02 .

[Adam024]

I know its XP SP2, I have an NVIDIA GS8400 and a full GB of memory. I don't have the computer with me, so thats all I know for now- I will try to get it later. I was hoping it was just a software glitch

[NWN DM]

Later Nvidia drivers are borked.

Try rolling back to earlier versions (if you search around here there will be at least one post that tells you which version(s) of the driver to look for.

[Gorath Alpha]

- Windows XP

- 512MB System RAM
- Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or Athlon XP 2000 or equivalent
- 128MB Direct3D compatible video card with DirectX 9.0c compatible driver
(GeForce 6600 GT or Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card with SM 2.0 or better)
- CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
- 4.6GB free hard disk space
- DirectX 9.0c (included)
- DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
- Microsoft .NET 2.0 Framework for toolset (included)
- Broadband connection for multiplayer online play
- Keyboard, Mouse

Note: an 8400 GS is barely at the 6600 GT's minimum, so nothing special should be expected from it, although it does have far better shader handling capability than the minimum card. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 21 juillet 2010 - 09:21 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

- Windows XP

- 512MB System RAM
- Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or Athlon XP 2000 or equivalent
- 128MB Direct3D compatible video card with DirectX 9.0c compatible driver
(GeForce 6600 GT or Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card with SM 2.0 or better)
- CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
- 4.6GB free hard disk space
- DirectX 9.0c (included)
- DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
- Microsoft .NET 2.0 Framework for toolset (included)
- Broadband connection for multiplayer online play
- Keyboard, Mouse

Note: an 8400 GS is barely at the 6600 GT's minimum, so nothing special should be expected from it, although it does have far better shader handling capability than the minimum card. 

In addition to the above requirements, the VIDEO BUS is a factor.  Neither of those minimum cards, were they ever made available for plain PCI, would run the game correctly any more.  Plain PCI is not for modern games at all.  AGP has already come and gone since plain PCI could be used for much of anything, and PCIe has been the current standard for the past five years. 

[Adam024]

I am bidding on that card- and I will look for those older drivers. Thanks!



By the way- the game played quicker on my laptop, but I had one of those HP's....I am sure you know what I mean- as you seem a lot more tech savvy than I am!

[Gorath Alpha]

Dell, HP, and Sony, in particular, were trying to get the cost of a PC down to almost nothing six or seven years ago, and the cost of including an AGP video bus was too high for the cheap machines they wanted to sell, so they left it out completely.  Dell, at least, chose a mainboard with onboard graphics, which wasn't true of all the cheap machines from the other two.  Some of them started out with a PCI card in them (which could amount to a less powerful option than using a good quality IGP was). 

The good video cards at that time were the Geforce GF3 and GF4 Titanium cards, but there were HPs with MX2s, a really awful video card (plain PCI).  An 8400 wasn't much better than an MX2, especially if it wasn't running with its bad cooling firmware overridden, but it is a bit slower than an X1300 Pro (again, as mentioned, it's got fairly good shader  capability), although not a lot. of speed. 

If it goes over $20 to $25, that's too much to invest in such a low quality machine as I believe yours to be.  I looked for any "Buy it Now" deals, and there were some in LOTS of several together that were reasonable, on a per card basis, but not a good way to go for you, with the 7300, 9200, and 9300 Geforces, and 2400, 3450, 4350 Radeons all coming up too expensive for the poor value.  I've added an other 8400 GS to the list in the other thread, if you could keep it from cooking itself like the current one. 

For instance, I do not think that an HD4350 for $30 brand new, plus $9.00 shipping, is a bargain in the long run -- IMO. it should sell for $25, plus about $5-6 shipping, even if brand new. 

cgi.ebay.com/MSI-R4350-D512HV2-ATI-Radeon-HD-4350-512-MB-PCI-/220651476428

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 août 2010 - 02:00 .

[Gorath Alpha]

(From the older message thread)

Gorath Alpha wrote...

The official minimum performance for this game requires a video card with an actual video bus, either AGP, or PCI-e, and your system doesn't qualify (GeForce 6600 GT or Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card with SM 2.0 or better).

Created about 15 hours ago

"I might add this- I have been playing the game since it was released (I think in 2006) and I am continually finding new things that I have missed!  Amazing job on this game!  Love it!"

Any computer without any video bus of any kind isn't worth an upgrade. In a thrift shop, for about that same $75, USD, stateside, you can get a much better system, complete. Plain PCI has such a limited, very slow and narrow bandwidth that an old Geforce 6200 was already as much performance as it could handle, five years ago. Wasting any money on such a terrible, cheap piece of junk was already a bad choice three years ago, when the 8400 was brand new.

The game was released in the fall of 2006, and you really can have no idea at all what it's truly like, if that poor junker of a system (HP desktop with  no video bus) has been the only way you have interacted with it.

Go on eBay and find a used 6200 or 7300 for $8-10 plus $5 shipping, if you can't get rid of that terrible old antique computer.  ALSO, PUT THIS GAME AWAY.  Your PC isn't close to good enough to run it at all properly.  But you'd be much better off with a proper thrift shop used system that really does have some kind of actual video bus!

I found an X1300 that also was better than plain old PCI can keep up with, but you can buy it on eBay for very little, and play 2D games, and really old games, to match your really bad computer:

cgi.ebay.com/Visiontek-Radeon-x1300-PCI-Graphics-Card-/260651391166

Here's another 8400 GS, plain PCI, not getting many bids yet

cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-8400-GS-256-MB-256-P2-N733-LR-PCI-E-/160468693742

Since it makes no difference how "fast" a graphics device is, when it is bottlenecked like crazy by being restricted to only a 33 MHz conduit, that $80 card at Amazon isn't any "faster" than an X1300, and an 8400 GS isn't any faster, either, so whichever goes for the least is the best of the two.  

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 août 2010 - 01:58 .

[Adam024]

An interesting note- A few days ago, I messed with the graphics cards' icon in the task bar and cranked up a few settings- and made the desktop resolution higher than what I play the game in.



It may be a coincidence, but for the past few days, the problem has not cropped up at all, and the game has run a lot smoother.