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[joriandrake]

Saibh wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Women Are Not Paying The Majority Of The Bill To pay off the Funds that was spent to Make The Game.So Deal With it.

Thats gonna catch ya' some heat.

I ignored it because it seemed like it was the title of some weird underground book.

He sure does enjoy his trolling.

[Riona45]

Eleinehmm wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...

This is my definition of feminism:
http://tomatonation....sm/yes-you-are/

I used to send people to this article too - Thank you 

Agreed, I appreciate it.

[joriandrake]

Eleinehmm wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...
That our society does not think of a woman with equal possibility as a man for a cool hero character.

I'd be happy to accept that if you can back it up with statistics, else it's just your perception of what "society" thinks and is not necessarily correct. I can think of quite a few games that sport a female protagonist.

I would like that list, please. Western games with female protagonists? For my own playing, if nothing else. Because last I checked, for every one game with a heroine there are a few dozen with a hero.

Also, here is a statistic that relates to movies, on this issue.
http://www.racebendi...mountgender.jpg

Aveyond series (most of the time)
Septerra Core
The Longest Journey series
Keepsake
Still Life series
Venetica
Syberia series
Tomb Raider series



just to name a few in a minute

Oh please - Tomb Raider... Really... <_<

It DOES have a female protagonist, just as the main character is female in Tresure Hunter and Xena

[term8]

RosaAquafire wrote...

Jigero wrote...

I can easily see many of unassuming males not even bothering looking at the box because of "oh looks like a girl game" .

I'm not entirely sure how anyone is going to look at a woman clad in full armour standing in front of a dragon drawn with dripping blood and think it's a girl's game, but maybe I'm underestimating market idiocy.

Also I find it fascinating that you're telling me to get involved and then telling me to stop bringing the issue to attention.

The female/male ratio is closer to 35:75 than the 5:95 people assume. We're a minority market, yes. But we're a market.

This is a very old post, and by all rights i shouldn't even be posting on this so late..... but:

Your logic is flawed.. i agree with most of your posts, but the bold statement above is absurd. You expect males to do exactly what you are not doing... by your logic this entire argument is based on "market idiocy" on the part of women, who think; "oh a male covered in blood on the cover, must be a guy's game"

I don't disagree that female gamers are underrepresented; however, i don't like when feminism turns into a power struggle for top-dog. equality should be its only goal.

Modifié par term8, 22 juillet 2010 - 05:49 .

[Clover Rider]

joriandrake wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...
That our society does not think of a woman with equal possibility as a man for a cool hero character.

I'd be happy to accept that if you can back it up with statistics, else it's just your perception of what "society" thinks and is not necessarily correct. I can think of quite a few games that sport a female protagonist.

I would like that list, please. Western games with female protagonists? For my own playing, if nothing else. Because last I checked, for every one game with a heroine there are a few dozen with a hero.

Also, here is a statistic that relates to movies, on this issue.
http://www.racebendi...mountgender.jpg

Aveyond series (most of the time)
Septerra Core
The Longest Journey series
Keepsake
Still Life series
Venetica
Syberia series
Tomb Raider series



just to name a few in a minute

Oh please - Tomb Raider... Really... <_<

It DOES have a female protagonist, just as the main character is female in Tresure Hunter and Xena

Women men hell lesbians love Xena just like Lara .

[joriandrake]

Lyssistr wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

II Relics II wrote...

So women are mad that Bioware isn't using some beautiful scantily clad female Hawke to get people interested in their game??

Are you serious?

I'm afraid they are . However, as long as it suits my agenda of world domination sporting Megan Fawkes on DA2's front cover, I'm with em.

Check out that armor +999 stats!

Man you made my day . Put Megan on the front cover, else it's a boycott 

I like the girl who played in the Legend of the Seeker more

[Grommash94]

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?



...no?

[Rogue Unit]

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

We want to see FemHawke.

No Stfu.

[II Relics II]

I'm just saying, technically speaking, Hawke is both a Male and Female protagonist...



So what if Hawke is being advertise as a Guy?



In the games that you mentioned in your OP you mentioned protagonists who were strictly female, but DA and ME is different, in both games you can play as either male or female.

[joriandrake]

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

artillery fire, then friendly fire, then raging fire, then artillery fire again, then smokeless fire, then smoke without fire

Modifié par joriandrake, 22 juillet 2010 - 05:51 .

[Arttis]

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

Women are not having equality.
Areguements saying I am right you are wrong.
A bit of me in the mix adding some real logic.
THen here we are.

[Lyssistr]

joriandrake wrote...

I like the girl who played in the Legend of the Seeker more

Megan is invincible!

[Clover Rider]

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

Men hate women and they hate us the 40s to the 80s are cool and Geth are cool the end.

[Eleinehmm]

term8 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Jigero wrote...

I can easily see many of unassuming males not even bothering looking at the box because of "oh looks like a girl game" .

I'm not entirely sure how anyone is going to look at a woman clad in full armour standing in front of a dragon drawn with dripping blood and think it's a girl's game, but maybe I'm underestimating market idiocy.

Also I find it fascinating that you're telling me to get involved and then telling me to stop bringing the issue to attention.

The female/male ratio is closer to 35:75 than the 5:95 people assume. We're a minority market, yes. But we're a market.

This is a very old post, and by all rights i shouldn't even be posting on this so late..... but:

Your logic is flawed.. i agree with most of your posts, but the bold statement above is absurd. You expect males to do exactly what you are not doing... by your logic this entire argument is based on "market idiocy" on the part of women, who think; "oh a male covered in blood on the cover, must be a guy's game"

I don't disagree that female gamers are underrepresented; however, i don't like when feminism turns into a power struggle for top-dog. equality should be its only goal.

As far as I understand it , we would like to have Female Hawke as well as the Male one, not instead of the Male one.

[Lyssistr]

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

It's a cruel world we live in.

[Riona45]

Rogue Unit wrote...

Thats gonna catch ya' some heat.

Why?  It's just spam.

[Clover Rider]

Lyssistr wrote...

Grommash94 wrote...

Wow. This thread took off...anyone want to do a brief summary of the last 20 pages for me?

...no?

It's a cruel world we live in.

But a sexy one :innocent:.

[Games4ever]

Don't care if I play as Man or Female in a game,only care about if the game is good

[Lord_Saulot]

Hopefully once more screenshots/videos are released they can show off a female version of the player character more, and make it clearer that they are presenting a product where you can play male or female.

[Rogue Unit]

Eleinehmm wrote...

term8 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Jigero wrote...

I can easily see many of unassuming males not even bothering looking at the box because of "oh looks like a girl game" .

I'm not entirely sure how anyone is going to look at a woman clad in full armour standing in front of a dragon drawn with dripping blood and think it's a girl's game, but maybe I'm underestimating market idiocy.

Also I find it fascinating that you're telling me to get involved and then telling me to stop bringing the issue to attention.

The female/male ratio is closer to 35:75 than the 5:95 people assume. We're a minority market, yes. But we're a market.

This is a very old post, and by all rights i shouldn't even be posting on this so late..... but:

Your logic is flawed.. i agree with most of your posts, but the bold statement above is absurd. You expect males to do exactly what you are not doing... by your logic this entire argument is based on "market idiocy" on the part of women, who think; "oh a male covered in blood on the cover, must be a guy's game"

I don't disagree that female gamers are underrepresented; however, i don't like when feminism turns into a power struggle for top-dog. equality should be its only goal.

As far as I understand it , we would like to have Female Hawke as well as the Male one, not instead of the Male one.

I dont think it goes as far as that.  Some females just want sceenshots and dont want her hidden until 3 days before release.

[Arttis]

Riona45 wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Thats gonna catch ya' some heat.

Why?  It's just spam.

I love you<3:wub: wait...

[joriandrake]

Lyssistr wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

I like the girl who played in the Legend of the Seeker more

Megan is invincible!

[Riona45]

II Relics II wrote...


So what if Hawke is being advertise as a Guy?

If you care so much, you can always read some people's posts rather than coming in here and asking everyone to repeat themselves.

[iTomes]

Riona45 wrote...

II Relics II wrote...


So what if Hawke is being advertise as a Guy?

If you care so much, you can always read some people's posts rather than coming in here and asking everyone to repeat themselves.

and on almost the same effort of being snapy you just couldve explained him...

[Arttis]

Riona45 wrote...

II Relics II wrote...


So what if Hawke is being advertise as a Guy?

If you care so much, you can always read some people's posts rather than coming in here and asking everyone to repeat themselves.

Women overreacting to the smallest details as usual...Just kidding.
They want some Females being advertised as well as males.
Devs came by trying to help them understand.It was a no go.
Now we sit here with 2-3 groups with opposing opinions and no one will give in.
Thus more arguing.