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[Jallard]

Alright, I puchased ME 2 to see what is like, because I am a big fan of DA:O. However, my ME2 game is over now because I simply can't hack any of those cursed locks. For one the the timer is too fast and secondly, I have trouble remembering where  all of the symbols are. I cannot assemble my team unless I can hack those locks. So, for me, the game is over. Sad really. The game cost me $28.95: and I only got to play for ten hours or so. I guess it is back to Dragon Age Origins. Beside, I really puzzles!?!

[mcsupersport]

1) Wrong forum.
2) Sorry the devs made a game that requires a little bit of effort to play. You might try mario kart, I heard it is easier.
3) Have you tried practice?
4) Do you realize the lines actually go places and connect the dots??

Modifié par mcsupersport, 22 juillet 2010 - 01:50 .

[The Grey Ranger]

This is really the wrong forum for ME 2 but, you could try a google search for a trainer, at least some have a cheat for the hacking and bypass mini game.

[hamtyl07]

wrong forum but those hacks and bypasses are really simple

[Jallard]

hamtyl07 wrote...

wrong forum but those hacks and bypasses are really simple

I am a 63-year old man, I don't have the quickness to or the memory to accomplish those locks. I will just go back to DA:O That game I can play. There aren't any puzzles in that game that require quickness--both physical and in memory. They aren't on timers. My kind of game. Thanks for your help however.

Modifié par Jallard, 22 juillet 2010 - 02:07 .

[MarshalMeLee]

This kind of thing is a really disappointing way to miss a good game. I can only hope that you can find either a mod or alternative, or just try practicing it a bit more. Early on I tended to associate the symbols with things I recognized, like "battery", or the "letter c" as memory cues.

Even if you can't beat it immediately, just try to do as much as possible, and build up in your mind the skills of separating and remembering the various symbols.

Modifié par MarshalMeLee, 22 juillet 2010 - 04:07 .

[Jallard]

MarshalMeLee wrote...

This kind of thing is a really disappointing way to miss a good game. I can only hope that you can find either a mod or alternative, or just try practicing it a bit more. Early on I tended to associate the symbols with things I recognized, like "battery", or the "letter c" as memory cues.

Even if you can't beat it immediately, just try to do as much as possible, and build up in your mind the skills of separating and remembering the various symbols.

I appreciate your help, however, my patience has a very, very short span. I really just want to play the game as it is meant to be played. I am not intellectual or possess  a massive IQ: Nor, am I a mathimatician. I guess that's why I like Dragon Age Origins better.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Jallard wrote...

Alright, I puchased ME 2 to see what is like, because I am a big fan of DA:O. However, my ME2 game is over now because I simply can't hack any of those cursed locks. For one the the timer is too fast and secondly, I have trouble remembering where  all of the symbols are.

Don't try to remember where they all are.  try to remember where one is.  Then find the other one like that.

Then pick a different symbol and do the same.  This methodical approach leaves plenty of time.

What you're trying to do is solve the entire thing all at once, and there isn't time for that.

[snfonseka]

mcsupersport wrote...

1) Wrong forum.
2) Sorry the devs made a game that requires a little bit of effort to play. You might try mario kart, I heard it is easier.
3) Have you tried practice?
4) Do you realize the lines actually go places and connect the dots??

Now... now, don't be too hash on the fellow :innocent:...

On topic: "Sylvius the Mad" has mentioned some good points. So if you can follow them it would be easy.

[klf]

Gentlemen, I do believe this man is trolling.

And I associate that "c" with an ear.

[Jimmie_Rox]

klf wrote...

Gentlemen, I do believe this man is trolling.
And I associate that "c" with an ear.

Probably, though as someone mentioned follow the lines, that'll help, I hardly have to check if they match anymore. Or you could just get a auto-complete cheat, I'm sure there's a few kicking about the place. Or you could get a higher sense mouse so you can move faster, 5000dpi ftw though it's insane to use and that only comes out for cs:s ^^

[Theriotes]

I tend to complete the hack much quicker if I associate names with the symbols. I'm not sure if the symbols are different on the pc, but on the 360 I've creatively dubbed them "C," "Drill," "Pill," and "that other symbol."

Modifié par Theriotes, 22 juillet 2010 - 05:04 .

[Anezay]

C, two Hs, upside down T, messed up Y, syringe. C, H, T, Y, s for short. Simple.

By the way, I do believe that I smell a troll. No, wait, I am certain that this is a troll.

[darth_lopez]

Jimmie_Rox wrote...

klf wrote...

Gentlemen, I do believe this man is trolling.
And I associate that "c" with an ear.

Probably, though as someone mentioned follow the lines, that'll help, I hardly have to check if they match anymore. Or you could just get a auto-complete cheat, I'm sure there's a few kicking about the place. Or you could get a higher sense mouse so you can move faster, 5000dpi ftw though it's insane to use and that only comes out for cs:s ^^

i never noticed the lines line up. i did it too fast @.@ and i use a 3500 dpi death adder i can't imagine how fast you get done with 5000dpi mouse 

[Spornicus]

If you are too slow to hack those locks, how can you even shoot fast enough and aim before getting killed? Maybe videogames aren't your thing....

[Sylvius the Mad]

Spornicus wrote...

If you are too slow to hack those locks, how can you even shoot fast enough and aim before getting killed? Maybe videogames aren't your thing....

Note that the OP said he found ME through having played DAO.

Roleplaying games and video games are very different types of things.

And the combat in ME2 can be done very slowly.  Once you've taken cover, there's almost no urgency at all.

I really like puzzles in my games, but puzzles with time limits are bad.  The time limits do nothing but exclude some players for non-gameplay-related reasons.

[Jimmie_Rox]

darth_lopez wrote...

Jimmie_Rox wrote...

klf wrote...

Gentlemen, I do believe this man is trolling.
And I associate that "c" with an ear.

Probably, though as someone mentioned follow the lines, that'll help, I hardly have to check if they match anymore. Or you could just get a auto-complete cheat, I'm sure there's a few kicking about the place. Or you could get a higher sense mouse so you can move faster, 5000dpi ftw though it's insane to use and that only comes out for cs:s ^^

i never noticed the lines line up. i did it too fast @.@ and i use a 3500 dpi death adder i can't imagine how fast you get done with 5000dpi mouse 

Really bloody fast, it's just a series of twitches and you're done, I noticed the lines, because I sit and work out which ones are likely to be the same then go into twitch mode xD

Spornicus wrote...

If you are too slow to hack those locks, how can you even shoot fast enough and aim before getting killed? Maybe videogames aren't your thing....

If you just use CD's then that's aiming out of the equation and as someone else said, once you're in cover it's chill pill time.

Modifié par Jimmie_Rox, 23 juillet 2010 - 05:52 .

[Aradace]

mcsupersport wrote...

1) Wrong forum.
2) Sorry the devs made a game that requires a little bit of effort to play. You might try mario kart, I heard it is easier.
3) Have you tried practice?
4) Do you realize the lines actually go places and connect the dots??

This.  Seems like ME2 just isnt your cup o' tea now is it OP?

[mcsupersport]

snfonseka wrote...

mcsupersport wrote...

1) Wrong forum.
2) Sorry the devs made a game that requires a little bit of effort to play. You might try mario kart, I heard it is easier.
3) Have you tried practice?
4) Do you realize the lines actually go places and connect the dots??

Now... now, don't be too hash on the fellow :innocent:...

On topic: "Sylvius the Mad" has mentioned some good points. So if you can follow them it would be easy.

He comes onto the wrong forum, doesn't register his games and complains that the game is too hard because he is old, and infirm.  He doesn't try, he doesn't think, "Hey, this may help me get better hand eye cordination, or help my mental dexterity, NOPE, he just says pity me I wasted money because a bad developer made a game an OLD POOR HELPLESS MAN has a hard time with!"  He didn't even ask for pointers, just said "Pity me!"  My bs tolerance is very low for someone like this, and I have to wonder if he is really that old, or if he is, how he handles life at all.  He should know by now that life is a challenge, you can meet it or cower in a corner.  He has chosen cower in a corner for his life.  

I can say the matching games are EASY once you understand and practice them a little bit.  The first time I encountered them it was flustrating and annoying, BUT I kept trying until I understood them, now I can usually do the bypass game he hates without even looking at the symbols just by looking at the board and lines and the relation between them.  Just so you know I am 39 years old, and ask no quarter, or forgiveness because of my age.

[Jimmie_Rox]

mcsupersport wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

mcsupersport wrote...

1) Wrong forum.
2) Sorry the devs made a game that requires a little bit of effort to play. You might try mario kart, I heard it is easier.
3) Have you tried practice?
4) Do you realize the lines actually go places and connect the dots??

Now... now, don't be too hash on the fellow :innocent:...

On topic: "Sylvius the Mad" has mentioned some good points. So if you can follow them it would be easy.

He comes onto the wrong forum, doesn't register his games and complains that the game is too hard because he is old, and infirm.  He doesn't try, he doesn't think, "Hey, this may help me get better hand eye cordination, or help my mental dexterity, NOPE, he just says pity me I wasted money because a bad developer made a game an OLD POOR HELPLESS MAN has a hard time with!"  He didn't even ask for pointers, just said "Pity me!"  My bs tolerance is very low for someone like this, and I have to wonder if he is really that old, or if he is, how he handles life at all.  He should know by now that life is a challenge, you can meet it or cower in a corner.  He has chosen cower in a corner for his life.  

I can say the matching games are EASY once you understand and practice them a little bit.  The first time I encountered them it was flustrating and annoying, BUT I kept trying until I understood them, now I can usually do the bypass game he hates without even looking at the symbols just by looking at the board and lines and the relation between them.  Just so you know I am 39 years old, and ask no quarter, or forgiveness because of my age.

OP is probably a troll anyway, just in case he isn't I tried to put some pointers out for him but it may be a case of "stupid troll is stupid" but even if he aint those things aren't too hard anyways. Just hit f6 or w/e you have as quick save before you attempt a lock. And the important ones let you have as many attempts at is as you need.

[TheKillerAngel]

Has anybody here given this guy the benefit of the doubt? It's not fair to say "I'm 39, he's 63, so he should be able to do things as well as I am" because the fact is, fluid intelligence peaks at youth and declines over time, so older people do have more difficult facing problems in new or unknown situations. Crystallized intelligence accumulates over time and has more to do with memory and experience than problem solving.

[Valmy]

Jallard wrote...
I am a 63-year old man, I don't have the quickness to or the memory to accomplish those locks. I will just go back to DA:O That game I can play. There aren't any puzzles in that game that require quickness--both physical and in memory. They aren't on timers. My kind of game. Thanks for your help however.

Hrm....does lowering the difficulty help with these?

Also if you have problems with the minigames are you able to do the shooter inspired combat?

[MadCat221]

I don't mind the new hacking minigames in ME2... I mind that being a soldier or vanguard (or maybe adept) who has no tech spec being able to do it, and also having a technically inclined squaddie with you doesn't affect it. Seriously... Tali, get dem hips over here and do this, you're better at it than me!

Modifié par MadCat221, 23 juillet 2010 - 10:59 .

[mcsupersport]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Has anybody here given this guy the benefit of the doubt? It's not fair to say "I'm 39, he's 63, so he should be able to do things as well as I am" because the fact is, fluid intelligence peaks at youth and declines over time, so older people do have more difficult facing problems in new or unknown situations. Crystallized intelligence accumulates over time and has more to do with memory and experience than problem solving.

THE GAMES DON'T TAKE INTELLIGENCE, they take pattern recognition and hand eye cordination.  You look at a pattern, check the symbol, find the other symbol and move the mouse/controller between the two matching symbols.  To do this takes practice, and understanding of the system.  To come out and say it is too hard because I am old, and don't want to WORK some to play the game isn't about crystallized intellignece it is about wanting to be spoonfed a game.  It has very little to do with age, but the OP was using his age as a crutch to not work at something.  

All your fancy lingo doesn't change the fact that you can work to accomplish  something or you can curl up in a ball and whine about it.  It also just means it may be harder for him, BUT he should also get greater satisfaction when he can finally work his way through it.  Your ideas of, "It's ok, you don't have to try because __________" just makes excuses for mediocrity and sloth.