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[Epantiras]

Dave of Canada wrote...

My problem with the Mass Effect system:
[Regular conversation]
[Regular conversation]
[Regular conversation]
[Loyalty mission]
[Romance dialogue: Yes or No?]
[Yes: Flirting and then sex cutscene]
[No: I don't want to talk with you anymore]
[Same gender: I don't want to talk with you anymore]

You're 100% correct! I hope Bioware will fix it in ME3.

[NICKjnp]

Hmmm... to add to the suppor thread or no? Add.

[Cypher0020]

a tiny bump of support....we need platonic love banners

[Zaxares]

Straight male here, but I like Jacob's company. (I have to agree though, his romance is pretty corny...) From the moment he said, "You know that old saying about good deeds? It's like pissing yourself in dark parts. You get a warm feeling, but nobody notices." I laughed out loud and said, "I like you, Jacob. We're gonna get along just fine."

[Niceral]

Why not? I'm not keen on banging every person I meet in-game.

[Nightwriter]

I commend the thread.

This is how I think of Tali as maleShep, or Garrus as femShep - a comfortably platonic relationship. Good friends.

[Lord Zeuss]

Ashley and Liara approve of this thread!

[Raizo]

This is one aspect that I feel that ME2 was very weak at at.



I have nothing against the charcter romances but I really would like to be able to talk with with my squuadmates and either form friendships or at the very least get know them and form some sort of professional bond with them without having to romance them.



Garrus and Jack in particular are/were major dissapointments. Jacob's not that much better. I love the Miranda romance but she seems to go from frigid to ripping her cloths off way too fast, it just does not seem believable that 2 people could bond soo much over soo little conversation.

[Lord Zeuss]

Liara is adorable, I wish I could've had a better friendship with her.

[Pacifien]

I was just thinking of all the conversations I had with the squadmates in KOTOR. Jolee Bindo was like a cross between Mordin and Zaeed, conversations that seemed to never reach an end. But Mission was a classic display of a squadmate in the friendship zone who truly developed nicely.

But even if the conversations were still limited, just having squadmates with brief dialogues against each other as you walk around goes a long way that this crew talks to more than just Shepard. Maybe it's not so much about working on the friendship with Shepard as it is just working on the various relationships among each other beyond Shepard.

Wonder how much conversation they need to throw in before people feel satisfied. How many conversations could you get out of Mordin? First discussion, discussion about STG work, discussion about student, discussion about Collectors, discussion with singing, discussion about relationships, discussion about student... Not to mention the rotating use of dismissals in between. And each conversation had multiple dialogue wheel choices, too.

[JergenKajaton]

The whole crew.

I have nothing against in-game romances in principle. In DAO, for example, they make perfect sense. It would be weird if no hanky-panky was going on among that rag-tag band of adventurers. But the commander of a military ship becoming romantically involved with members of his/her crew? That just strikes me as creepy.

To Bioware's credit, the Virmire incident in ME1 very effectively demonstrated why such relationships among military personnel are ethically problematic. The designers were very much aware of the issues, and forced the player to deal with them as well. Which just makes me all the more determined not to pursue romances in ME2. If I didn't learn my lesson on Virmire, I'm utterly clueless and unworthy of command.

Modifié par JergenKajaton, 24 juillet 2010 - 05:23 .

[Estelindis]

Pacifien wrote...
Wonder how much conversation they need to throw in before people feel satisfied. How many conversations could you get out of Mordin? First discussion, discussion about STG work, discussion about student, discussion about Collectors, discussion with singing, discussion about relationships, discussion about student... Not to mention the rotating use of dismissals in between. And each conversation had multiple dialogue wheel choices, too.

Agreed.  Mordin's conversation tree/wheel/whatever was the best-implemented in the game.  Especially the rotating dismissals.  Hilarious!

[Joshua N7]

SHOUT OUT TO MY HOMEBOYS IN MASS EFFECT 1, 2, GARRUS, THANE, GRUNT, LEGION, JACOB!!!

[Titanium Man]

I have a platonic love for Mordin because he won't swing far enough to go any better than that

[Cypher0020]

I have platonic love for Jack......and proud of it lol

[mesmerizedish]

Just the other day, I was talking about how it would be neat if, in addition to your romantic interest, you could build a relationship with a BFF or something as well... I know I'm in the minority here, and I'm a little uncomfortable outing myself like this, but I do NOT want to have sex with Legion. Scary, I know. I'm stronger than I thought I was. HOWEVER, I'd like the game to acknowledge that he and I get along great and have each other's backs to a greater degree than my other squadmates. It would be even more fun if you're romancing Tali. (I was so proud of her when I peacefully resolved her post-loyalty conflict with Legion... I think she's overcoming her deep-seated prejudices). Really, though, Legion's frakkin' sweet.

[Alexine]

The closest I think in getting friendship reference was Jacob (with his brohug). Even if his romance was down in the dumps and horrible to the depths of hell as well with the most untrusting character at the beginning. I kind of want BW to have these choices, sort of like how DA:O has it (I mean, they really implemented friendship very very well in the game, without missing out too much stuff).

[Epantiras]

Garrus is a bro, he's been with Shepard since the beginning. I'd never think about him as a romance option. Same goes with Tali, she's Shepard's little sister ;-)

EDIT:
And we need more Jack in ME3, even if you don't romance her. She doesn't want friendship, that's ok and in-character that you cannot be friends with her in ME2, but don't you think it should change in ME3 (especially if she's loyal)?

Modifié par Epantiras, 26 juillet 2010 - 08:36 .

[Cra5y Pineapple]

You'd be suprised but on the rare ocassion that you find boys on the Garrus Thread or girls on the Tali Thread, the discussion can turn bromancy. And i'd say my Shepard's love for Garrus, Grunt and Legion is purely platonic (the Tali love is something "different" if yaknowwhatImean). Well I think of myself as Grunt's adoptive Dad.

ME3 needs bromances!

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 26 juillet 2010 - 09:47 .

[Titanium Man]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I like this idea. We need more discussion of characters for characters' sake. A place everybody can get discussed without particular emphasis on one person or just that person's romance. I freely admit I hang around romance threads a lot, but I want to discuss more than that. But if ever a conversation about another character starts up we have to drop it quickly even if it is an interesting conversation for fear of going off topic and getting our thread closed. This feeds micro-analyzation and the "creepiness" that so many people see. I would love an active character thread where we can discuss whoever without fear.

Agreed.  It is...difficult to start a conversation in the Tali thread, even if it is about her.  There's a lot of gushing over pictures.

[TheSweetGirl]

Garrus is my Shepard's little bro! XDDD Tali is the little sis. Grunt is the....Ummm just a buddy! XDDDD



I love if they improved friendships in ME3! ME2 lacked much in that department and I really hope they fix it

[Cypher0020]

I agree to all of the above. There are a lot of ME characters that I would have love to have explored more indepth as well



Ash. Ok my BFF. A tough as nails soldier but also had a poetic soft side and actually had religion, plus a normal family? Oh yeah. My Femshep & Ash had a strong connection.



Horizon....really made me sad.



Tali falls into the kid sister dept- reminds of me Mission, and I love her, I love Tali too!



Joker falls into the drinking buddy for me. The one person Shep doesn't have to act like a strict officer around



Miranda. My femshep actually likes her. Her concern for Oriana was good, and my shep knows if she's going down, she would want someone like her to take command



Jack. Need more love! Sucked she doesn't open up much to non-romance Shep's. Since I roll earthborn, I'm well aware had circumstances been different, Shepard could have been Jack, being a slum kid with biotic abilites



Dr. Chakwas and Anderson. My shep calls them mom and dad privately, and if anyone finds out, she'd never live it down. Need more dialogue from both of them!

[Lotto]

garrus and wrex are my bros for life



and i can't forget my best chang, kasumi