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[Lord_Caledore]

This forum needs this thread! I always want to talk about a favorite character of mine, and then I go to their thread and it's a creepy love-fest.



Take Tali, for instance. Did anyone else see her as a 'little sister' figure? I definitely saw my Shep of having that sort of friendship with Tali. It's why I couldn't possibly romance her. I know she's matured in ME2, but I still see her as the same girl that was in ME1.



And the bromances abound, too. Garrus and Wrex always had my back in Mass Effect 1, and in Mass Effect 2, it's Garrus, Jacob, and Zaeed - and Mordin, although that friendship is a little different, since I see him as a little older and wiser than Shep. I want to spill some drinks on the Citadel with all of them.



I never cared for Liara in ME1, but in LotSB, I gained a new respect for her. At last someone gives my Shep a chance to say how he's feeling! I honestly like Liara's interactions with Shepard more in LotSB if you haven't romanced her. You get the sense that she's a true friend, without any of those complications of romance. I'd love to see more of these friendship interactions show up, rather than always limiting the deeper interactions to romance.

[cos1ne]

I hate to see this thread die, but I must say I totally support platonic relationships in ME. For me my bros are Wrex, Zaaed and Jacob. I could picture all four of us spilling drinks on the Citadel telling war stories with each other.



We totally need a BFF option for ME3 in addition to the romance. Although I'd be so torn on who to share the other half of my charm bracelet with lol.

[Ambrose180]

Yeah, I liked how in DA:O you can get really close to a person and have them become your best friend without having to worry about romancing them to get the full dialogue. Not only that but the character you were getting to know would get bonuses to their stats for becoming a closer friend. It would be awesome if ME3 has an option like this.

[Inquisitor Recon]

There is that rule of the internet where the goal of this topic is sadly impossible.

[OBakaSama]

ReconTeam wrote...

There is that rule of the internet where the goal of this topic is sadly impossible.

What does that mean for social network sites like facebook?

On a more serious note: The lack of a friendship dialogue path is what makes ME2 inferior to Dragon Age with respect to interactivity with your squad companions in my opinion. Actually, ME2 reminds me of my first BioWare game (Jade Empire) where (my dodgy memory tells me) romanceable characters have more dialogue. With the exception of Mordin who has a ton of dialogue (maybe Grunt as well to a certain extent) the others sort of cut you off after a point. So while we get to see romances played out, we don't get to see friendships play out.

You'd figure that Shepard would have a lot to talk about with those from ME1, assuming Shepard was on good terms with them.

Be interesting to see if this thread can hold out without the romantic connotations associated with the characters.

[Sorwis]

From charecters you can romance, I see Garrus and Tali as good friends of my Shep. There's nothing romantic between those two and my Shep, male or female. Thane and Samara are on the edge of being either buddies or romantic interests mainly due to their past. Others are either just squadmates, good non-romance friends or possible romances.

I like to talk to squadmates and get to know them without romancing them. For example, deeper discussion with Tali leads to romance pretty quick and if you choose not to pursue romance with Miranda, all the dialogue ends there. Miranda and Tali start to work all the time and Garrus just calibrates. This is true for every charecter who you can romance and I don't like it. It's like romance or nothing at all in most cases.

Modifié par Sorwis, 04 octobre 2010 - 06:47 .

[Universitas_C]

Lord_Caledore wrote...

Take Tali, for instance. Did anyone else see her as a 'little sister' figure? I definitely saw my Shep of having that sort of friendship with Tali. It's why I couldn't possibly romance her. I know she's matured in ME2, but I still see her as the same girl that was in ME1.

This, so much. Romancing Tali, for me, feels like Hawke romancing Bethany in DA2. Painfully awkward.

[Cypher0020]

totally bumping for the love here my first and only recently imported maleshep had a totally bromance going on with Wrex, and a big brother thing with Tali

[Inquisitor Recon]

While I applaud the initiative, here is the a problem, this topic will soon be overwhelmed by the topics that are kinda obsessive, your doomed to be consumed by them, and I'm afraid the last dropship out of here is full.



And that Garrus ManShep picture is not a bro-hug. A bro-hug is what you got with Jacob when you agreed to spill some drinks on the citadel then kick somebody's ass. A bro-moment was like when you meet Wrex again.

[Lilitv]

I loved everyone. Except Miranda. And Jack, but because she makes me sad with her being so abrasive towards me.

Tali and Garrus made me a little sad in ME 2 though. I thought they would have trusted me with their lives with what we have gone through in the first game.

Modifié par Lilitv, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:30 .

[PseudoEthnic]

Miranda and Ashley are my MainShep's best friends. Miranda more so since destroying the collector base. Jacob and Garrus are my bros. Wrex and Samara are the mom and pops he never had even though Samara disapproves of so much of what he does.

Modifié par PseudoEthnic, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:41 .

[Merlin 47]

Lord_Caledore wrote...

Take Tali, for instance. Did anyone else see her as a 'little sister' figure? I definitely saw my Shep of having that sort of friendship with Tali. It's why I couldn't possibly romance her. I know she's matured in ME2, but I still see her as the same girl that was in ME1.

I saw Liara in that role, but not Tali.  I can see why others would feel that way, because Tali can give that impression.  Liara was my Shep's "little sister".  He went and saw Liara the moment he could in ME 2 and helped her with the Shadow Broker.

I had a bromance going with Garrus; him and Wrex and to a lesser extent, Thane.  Those three I saw as Shepard's "brothers" or "guy buddies".

[Matterialize]

ME3 definitely needs more brolationships. Screwing around with Joker and EDI on the Normandy? That was awesome. "I guess I'm lucky you're still wearing pants." More witty banter, please!

[Nhani]

Lord_Caledore wrote...
Take Tali, for instance. Did anyone else see her as a 'little sister' figure? I definitely saw my Shep of having that sort of friendship with Tali. It's why I couldn't possibly romance her. I know she's matured in ME2, but I still see her as the same girl that was in ME1.

Playing a female Shepard, I can only say YES - between her loyalty mission and post loyalty conversations, Tali'Zorah gave me a very strong sisterly feel (and I felt rather protective of "little sister Tali" towards the end), and I honestly wish I could've had a similar opportunity towards non-romantic bonding with Garrus as there was always this teacher/student sort of theme with them throughout, and I'd much rather build on that. Not that I'd want to rob those who love to romance Garrus of their fun, of course, but I'd really want an option that doesn't involve having to take that path to continue speaking with him.

[izumi1925]

Lord_Caledore wrote...
Take Tali, for instance. Did anyone else see her as a 'little sister' figure? I definitely saw my Shep of having that sort of friendship with Tali. It's why I couldn't possibly romance her. I know she's matured in ME2, but I still see her as the same girl that was in ME1.

Totally agree with Caledore on this. Tali always gave me a 'little sister' vibe, she seems soo... youthful, so naive
 and innocent. This holds true especially for my femShep.

Wrex and Jacob are my bromances (even if I'm a femShep). Meeting up with Wrex again in ME2, his reaction to meeting Shepard again was by far my favourite and it warmed my heart. <3

After Jacob's loyalty mission and my motivation for surviving the suicide mission was the promise of those drinks. You owe me some drinks, Jacob. 

[Nuala]

I love Kasumi in a totally platonic way on my femshep(s). The only character who is allowed to call Shepard 'Shep' repeatedly.

[Brass_Buckles]

Okay, having read the original post, I feel inclined to say: I love being able to romance characters and it's not really so much about "icky cyberlust" as loving those characters' personalities and thinking it'd make a cool story if this or that Shepard were paired off with them. Don't make assumptions about people's intentions. Liking the romances or even gushing over them doesn't mean we can't appreciate friendships with characters, including the romantic interest characters.

Unfortunately, Bioware doesn't give us the chance to pursue a friendship the way they allow us to pursue a relationship in ME2--or for that matter, ME1. I can have Shepard say something friendly only if I want to start up a flirt dialogue. It might be obvious what's flirty and what isn't in most cases, but it's still annoying that when I'm trying to be friendly with Jack, she responds by telling me she's not gay, so shove off. It's one of several reasons I have come to dislike her.

I like to think of Jacob, after a few dialogues, as a friend to my Shepard. I'd never ever romance him, but I can see my Shepards sharing drinks with him and trying to set him back up with Miranda. I can even see my Shepards making friends with Miranda in some cases, although some of them are as unforgiving as I am about the control chip comment.

My favorite "friend" characters are Garrus (whether he's romanced or not, he's almost always my Shepards' best friend--anyone who'll join me with complete trust in my motives when I'm teamed up with a potential enemy of his is all right in my book) and Kasumi--because as a player of mostly female Shepards, I can see my Shepard hanging out with her, having a drink, and talking about guys, books, fine art, and fashion. I don't get the same vibe from Tali, whom I don't feel we get to know all that well until ME2. She's a friend and she's there in both games, but she's neither a "girl talk" friend nor a best friend who'll stand by my Shepard no matter what. Even in ME2, she makes it seem like she'd much rather be with the Flotilla than with my Shepard. Not that I don't appreciate that she is a friend--anybody who'd risk their life for your crazy suicide mission is undoubtedly a friend. She's just not as close to my Shepards as she might be with others'.

Thane is also a very good friend character. For my Shepards, I can tell he likes them (calling them "siha" but he'll never press the issue. He's fascinating to talk to, and I think he could use a shoulder to lean on that doesn't involve sleeping with the person whose shoulder it is.

Between Kaidan and Ashley, I'm not a fan of Kaidan's wordiness or Ashley's xenophobia, but Ash always struck me as better friend material than Kaidan. I'm not really sure why; maybe she just seems less uptight. I don't think a female Shepard could be just friends with Kaidan without him wanting something more, on the other hand.

And Wrex... well, who can forget him? I wouldn't romance the guy even if I could, but giving him a big bear hug is not out of the question. He's awesome in a rough, jaded, renegade way, and yet he's not renegade in the offputting way that Zaeed is renegade (to me anyway). He's got reasons for being the way he is--he's bitter, and this is all he's known all his life. If you let him survive, he does some great things for his people in ME2--things you helped to influence him to do. I have to say, having Grunt around made me miss Wrex all the more. Grunt just isn't half the awesome that Wrex was, and I can't even wrap my mind around being actual friends with Grunt.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 10 octobre 2010 - 01:02 .

[disconnect7]

Kasumi is my femshep's girl-she fills me in on what's happening-my ship my business! Jacob and Garrus are also good friends of hers, so funny seeing my femshep bump shoulders with Jacob and talking about getting loud on the citadel. The crew should definitely party after a victory I think-Jacob is the only one to bring that up.

[shadowpiranha]

Kasumi and my Shep are totally BFF in my head. Same with Joker. And my Shep has a soft spot for both Wrex and Grunt because of how happy they are simply kicking ass.



In sum, I love friendships, and platonic relationships, and those are the ones that tend to mean the most sometimes. I do think more friendship lines of conversation would be great.

[t3HPrO]

CAZZIN WREX! LET'S GO BOWLING! But seriously, who doesn't want to be best buds with one of the most awesome dudes in ME?

[close2myheart]

Late for the party, but I fully support this thread!!! 

I love Garrus to bits, but to me he is and always be like a brother to me and romancing him would feel just  wrong. Aaaand that' why I love Wrex's cameo in ME2, he looked happy when meeting you and greeted you like an ol' bud. He's nice to you even when you are not interested in banging him too bad he's not a squaddie in ME2 .
Don't get me wrong, I do support well written romance in the game and a 'loyalist' to KA from ME1, but I'd really love to have much2 more friendship content in the game.

C'mon, I mean the team are constantly facing dangerous missions and each are fully aware that they might just die on the next sortie, I bet the stress level on the Normandy is pretty much high and depending on how Shep interacts with his/her squaddie...
You can either: a) Make a great-solid-team,
                            A team that' just there, with no strong feelings of resentment or bond
                            c) A team that has trust issues.

-Just an idea-
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