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#126
IrishGunman

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Grunt and Garrus always. Bros for life, man!

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Yeah, I'm all about the platonic relationships in these games (and the lack of such options in ME2 was my biggest disappointment). My femShep has no interest in romancing anyone in ME2 (and she romanced Liara in ME1; own but haven't yet played LotSB yet). In fact, I found myself greatly surprised and disappointed when the conversation turned that way with Garrus.

I'd played the game mostly unspoiled and fresh (just got into the Mass Effect universe recently, and stayed away from all story discussion until I'd done a play through of each), so imagine my surprise when my femShep was just (I thought) chatting with Garrus like the old friends they are, with Garrus relating his stories about how to relieve stress on a Turian ship, and then the only remaining dialog option for my character was making a pass at him?!?!?! Seriously, it came as a surprise, and I couldn't help but gasp a "WTF??" at that moment.

Same with Jack and Mordin, who both seemed to mistake you talking with them to be flirting with them.

Because of that, I've held off talking to some of the other characters, despite wanting to know them. Thanks to this thread, it seems that I'll be able to talk to Thane and Samara at least, and I really need to spend more time chatting with Legion, it seems.

Is it possible to just chat with Jacob without it sounding flirty? I noticed the first time I chatted with him and asked about him, femShep got a really flirty tone in her voice, so I never pursued that dialog tree again.

So, yeah as far as my friendships in the game go, Tali and Garrus are my closest friends, the ones whose backs I'll always have and whom I know will always have mine. We've been through too much for it to be otherwise. Ash was another good friend in ME1, but I never really connected with Kaiden. Wrex actually saying "Shepard, my friend!" in ME2 was a great moment. Mordin is my best friend of the new characters. Jack is very interesting (not sure if I'd yet call her a friend, but definitely someone I want to know). Grunt hasn't impressed me much, but then I haven't spent much time talking to him. He just didn't really interest me.

I wish we could actually have interactive dialogs with Kasumi and Zaeed; especially Kasumi as I find her far more interesting. But, I'd like to be able to talk back to Zaeed, even if just to say, "Look all your talk of doing this and that? It doesn't impress me. I saved the Citadel from a reaper, so :P".

Anyway, I fully support the notion of getting to know the characters much more deeply without romancing them. B)

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 10 janvier 2011 - 04:53 .


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LadyJaneGrey

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Interactive Civilian wrote...

Is it possible to just chat with Jacob without it sounding flirty?


'Fraid not.  It hit me so hard I reloaded to before the conversation and left him alone for the rest of the game.

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Figures. Oh well... At least I can use my maleShep character to find out about him. :-/

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i want friendships with everyone. jacob still owes me drinks. and i wanna go kill some thresher maws with grunt. some husk bowling with jack. xD

if i can just throw out there all the stuff i would want for me3:

crew banter, teasing, conflict, heck not everyone can get along. CONSEQUENCES....like, hey Shep, I don't really approve of what you did there, I'm gonna leave! and stuff like that.

that would be just awesome. and more talking to everyone. yes i want more rpg elements here, please.

#131
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I'd be more into the platonic relationships in ME if all the characters actually had viable friendship paths. GRR. One of the things I dislike most about the ME series is how characters who are LIs often suffer in the friendship department if you're not romancing them. I shouldn't get my conversations with Jack cut off all of a sudden just because I don't want to get into her pants. I SHOULD be able to talk to Jacob like a normal human being without having to tiptoe through a minefield of bad porno lines.



At least ME2 fixed the romance traps. It's a start.

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I think this is great. My femShep only ever romances Kaidan but still has some serious love for the others.



She and Ashley were great friends. Now probably Kasumi, Joker, Garrus, and Liara are her best friends. Tali is very much like a little sister.



There really isn't a squadmate from either game that I dislike. Miranda annoyed me so much at first but now I even like her. Jacob is frustrating just in that he's hard to not romance as a femShep.

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LadyJaneGrey wrote...

Interactive Civilian wrote...

Is it possible to just chat with Jacob without it sounding flirty?


'Fraid not.  It hit me so hard I reloaded to before the conversation and left him alone for the rest of the game.


Yeah...  I'm only on my second playthrough and I tried again to just talk to him, hoping I could do so without sounding like a smarmy idiot.  He seems like he'd be a great person to talk to, with his background in the Alliance and his apparent respect for fShep.  But less than one full conversation in and out come the cheesy lines...

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Ultimate brofist with Garrus and Jacob.





And even if the romances wernt so "forced" I'd still hit on them all until the moment comes where I have to say "No, I really dont like you. I'm just a selfish douche."

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Jacob is a true brother imo. Love to have spilled some drinks with him on the Citadel. Like said many times before, the friendship dialogue tree wasn't explored at all/barely. You just talked to people to get into bed with them, which was kinda a let down imo as it ruined a bit of the immersion.

#136
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Jack. The opening up in the romance option was great, but as has been said elsewhere, it felt like that was the only way to get inside her skull. I'm hoping a couple of years have passed again (sans any further Shepdeath!), and Shepard has to go looking for his old squadmates to put the band back together again... it would be fantastic to find Jack running an orphanage or teaching kindergarten, having gotten past all of the psychological damage because of Shepard's friendship.

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moar friendship options would be awesome. I always felt like Garrus was a best bud to most of my Shepards, the evolution of your relationship with Wrex was pretty awesome, just generally being able to chat with your squadmates without "implications unpleasant" . I love romances in Mass effect, some I love more then others (some don't work for me at all, but you know, that's why we all have our preferences and differences), but more often then not, I just want to be friends, colleagues, buddies, brothers/sisters at arms. and damn it Garrus, don't you dare wimping out on me and refuse to spar :( We could probably teach each other some new moves and in general have some fun :/ (choosing to spar btw is femshep option to avoid romance and stay friends - but there's no extra dialogue after that :( )

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Garrus is my bro.



He was utterly dependable in ME1 and followed me to the end. After getting brought back not from Death's doorstep, but Death's living room, my Shepard felt adrift and alone among enemies. Garrus was the first guy he found from the old days that he could trust. It was a huge weight off my Shepard's shoulders to be with a friend once again.

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Epantiras wrote...

Garrus is a bro, he's been with Shepard since the beginning. I'd never think about him as a romance option. Same goes with Tali, she's Shepard's little sister ;-)

EDIT:
And we need more Jack in ME3, even if you don't romance her. She doesn't want friendship, that's ok and in-character that you cannot be friends with her in ME2, but don't you think it should change in ME3 (especially if she's loyal)?


My Shepard thinks of Tali the same way.  To the point that when I did the Tali loyalty mission, I was ready to draw weapons and start capping those damned admirals.

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This was one of those things that really bugged me with ME2. This and the overall lack of inter-party banter. You couldn't talk to someone opposite gender unless you were wanting a romance really, and those same gender had hardly anything to say to you at all outside of their loyalty mission. That being said, Mordin was quite well written I thought, as was Thane who bucked the trend and had a ton of dialogue even if you were male.

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Matterialize wrote...

ME3 definitely needs more brolationships. Screwing around with Joker and EDI on the Normandy? That was awesome. "I guess I'm lucky you're still wearing pants." More witty banter, please!


One of the very best lines of the entire game, period.  Just one bit of dialog there and it showed you a lot about both Shepard and Joker.

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I'm currently playing through ME2 with my Renegon female Shep Cara, and she and Kasumi are special lady friends (kind of like being special man friends, except girls). I'm pretty sure they're both getting manicures as I speak.

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Also, my Shepard has huge respect for Samara.



She's the consummate traditionalist. Not the caricature of traditionalists that certain people like to paint, but the real deal. She's an Asari of the old school, but that doesn't mean she hates aliens, kind of like Ashley is a hard assed Marine of the old school but doesn't hate aliens (doesn't trust them though, and with good reason in many cases). For example, the dominant, modern religion of the Asari is not unlike a type of nature worship. Samara, however, adheres to the old monotheistic faith of the goddess. Whereas most Asari live happy go lucky lives, she adheres to the old code of the Justicar and stands as a champion for her people.

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By the way, did I mention how awesome Zaeed is?



He's a badass and proud of it, but deep down, he's a good guy and you can see it. Plus, there's nothing quite so intimidating as a huge, unhappy Englishman in a mood to put a boot in someone's ass.

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jamesp81 wrote...

By the way, did I mention how awesome Zaeed is?

He's a badass and proud of it, but deep down, he's a good guy and you can see it. Plus, there's nothing quite so intimidating as a huge, unhappy Englishman in a mood to put a boot in someone's ass.


I love Zaeed! ...He was the only opne who made it out of that alive.;)

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Mordin is the ultimate bro. I wonder what fun he and a scientist Shepard could haveinthe Normandy's lab. >:D

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Garrus is my BFF

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Garrus & Joker bff 4ever!

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HiruRyu

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Thane and Mordin are my ultimate wing men! Thane just has so much to talk about(ironic enough he's dying from a throat disease LOL) And Mordin's just about the only char that actually amused me with his denial of a nonexistent romance option xD

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Yes I support somewhat healtheir relationships with fictional characters. Garrus is my brosef.

Modifié par Kamikazi117, 02 mars 2011 - 01:18 .