Having thought a little more about what we could call the result of merging the toolset and scripting forums I have a suggestion only in the case this happens. Also if they do merge then I would rename the modules forum. My suggestions are:
NwN Modules - Announcements & Players
NwN Modules - Builders
I wonder if anyone else has any suggestions?
TR
Suggestions on forum names - your help is appreciated!
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#27
Posté 13 août 2010 - 12:12
olivier leroux
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Alright, I'll try to make another effort to coordinate this.
We already have a lot of good suggestions and different sets of forum names but in order to determine which are the most popular choices I'd kindly ask you now not to offer any alternative sets anymore but instead to take the following as a base for discussion, explicitly refer to it and comment on it and make a strong case for any modification of it you think absolutely necessary. Below the proposed set you'll find some explanations and further food for thought I'd be interested to hear your opinions on. In any case, let's try to reach a good compromise now.
NWN General Discussion (No Spoilers Allowed)
NWN Official Campaigns (NWN, SoU, HotU - Spoilers Warning)
NWN Persistent Worlds, Guilds & Multiplayer: Ye Olde Tavern
NWN Modules
NWN Builders: Toolset
NWN Builders: Scripting
NWN Custom Content (incl. CEP)
NWN Dungeon Master's Realm
NWN Server Admin
NWN Technical Support (self-help for all versions and expansions)
- Official Campaigns: These days we don't get as much new players as we used to and consequently there aren't that much posts in the OC forums anymore. We haven't given up hope and we welcome all new players, they're just more likely to find help with the OCs if veterans only have to scan one forum instead of three.
- Ye Olde Tavern: PWs, Guilds and MP sessions are about socializing and finding people to play with, so that's the common denominator for this forum. The "Tavern" in the name reflects that and its familiar ring ensures that those who are accustomed to the legacy forums instantly find the right place to post their announcements in.
- Modules: Kept as is, with hopes that the more explicit forum name for PW and MP directly above it will now render unneccessary any addition of "Single Player" or "excluding/except for PWs" in this forum name (so we don't have to deal with the SP/MP discussion or complicated forum names).
- Toolset and Scripting: There were suggestions of merging both of these forums because they're closely related. Not sure yet if these suggestions would get a majority among builders here. Another point to discuss is whether to keep the "Builders:" tag or not and if we decide to keep it, if other forums should get similar tags (e.g. "Players:"). It might cause new problems though (as "Modules" for example is for both players and builders). And does "Custom Content" belong to the "Builders:" category, too, or not?
- As Tarot Redhand pointed out, CEP *is* nothing but custom content, too. But since CEP was explicitly added to the title by Chris Priestley (and CEP?), I say let's go for the compromise and make it "incl. CEP" instead. The best way for CEP to handle it IMO would be to keep their own thread about updates in the CC forum but direct any CEP specific questions to their own forum outside of BSN, the same way that other community projects handle it as well. But that's not for us to discuss here.
- Tools and Plugin Developers was left out, as Drewskie rightfully pointed out that they usually involve projects that fit better in more specific forums (e.g. DMFI --> dm's realm, NWNx databases --> server admin, NWNmax --->custom content, lilac's script generator---> scripting).
- Server Admin was added again. There were some suggestions to merge it with "DM's Realm" but different opinions on it. On the one hand they're completely different topics, on the other hand the rare use of both of these forums and the connection between server administrators and DMs could be an argument for it.
- Another suggestion (by SHOVA) was to add a "Players Corner" forum specifically for builds & strategy discussion. Currently this is part of "General Discussion" - do others agree that we would be better off if strategy discussions had their own forum?
- I noticed that the forums of the newer games here actually have descriptions explaining what they are for while the ones that migrated from the legacy forums only have titles, no explanations. I don't know if this was done on purpose or if it's just due to improvisation, a lack of time on BioWare's side and whether there's a chance they'd actually welcome it if we'd offer them short explanations for our forums, too.
We already have a lot of good suggestions and different sets of forum names but in order to determine which are the most popular choices I'd kindly ask you now not to offer any alternative sets anymore but instead to take the following as a base for discussion, explicitly refer to it and comment on it and make a strong case for any modification of it you think absolutely necessary. Below the proposed set you'll find some explanations and further food for thought I'd be interested to hear your opinions on. In any case, let's try to reach a good compromise now.
NWN General Discussion (No Spoilers Allowed)
NWN Official Campaigns (NWN, SoU, HotU - Spoilers Warning)
NWN Persistent Worlds, Guilds & Multiplayer: Ye Olde Tavern
NWN Modules
NWN Builders: Toolset
NWN Builders: Scripting
NWN Custom Content (incl. CEP)
NWN Dungeon Master's Realm
NWN Server Admin
NWN Technical Support (self-help for all versions and expansions)
- Official Campaigns: These days we don't get as much new players as we used to and consequently there aren't that much posts in the OC forums anymore. We haven't given up hope and we welcome all new players, they're just more likely to find help with the OCs if veterans only have to scan one forum instead of three.
- Ye Olde Tavern: PWs, Guilds and MP sessions are about socializing and finding people to play with, so that's the common denominator for this forum. The "Tavern" in the name reflects that and its familiar ring ensures that those who are accustomed to the legacy forums instantly find the right place to post their announcements in.
- Modules: Kept as is, with hopes that the more explicit forum name for PW and MP directly above it will now render unneccessary any addition of "Single Player" or "excluding/except for PWs" in this forum name (so we don't have to deal with the SP/MP discussion or complicated forum names).
- Toolset and Scripting: There were suggestions of merging both of these forums because they're closely related. Not sure yet if these suggestions would get a majority among builders here. Another point to discuss is whether to keep the "Builders:" tag or not and if we decide to keep it, if other forums should get similar tags (e.g. "Players:"). It might cause new problems though (as "Modules" for example is for both players and builders). And does "Custom Content" belong to the "Builders:" category, too, or not?
- As Tarot Redhand pointed out, CEP *is* nothing but custom content, too. But since CEP was explicitly added to the title by Chris Priestley (and CEP?), I say let's go for the compromise and make it "incl. CEP" instead. The best way for CEP to handle it IMO would be to keep their own thread about updates in the CC forum but direct any CEP specific questions to their own forum outside of BSN, the same way that other community projects handle it as well. But that's not for us to discuss here.
- Tools and Plugin Developers was left out, as Drewskie rightfully pointed out that they usually involve projects that fit better in more specific forums (e.g. DMFI --> dm's realm, NWNx databases --> server admin, NWNmax --->custom content, lilac's script generator---> scripting).
- Server Admin was added again. There were some suggestions to merge it with "DM's Realm" but different opinions on it. On the one hand they're completely different topics, on the other hand the rare use of both of these forums and the connection between server administrators and DMs could be an argument for it.
- Another suggestion (by SHOVA) was to add a "Players Corner" forum specifically for builds & strategy discussion. Currently this is part of "General Discussion" - do others agree that we would be better off if strategy discussions had their own forum?
- I noticed that the forums of the newer games here actually have descriptions explaining what they are for while the ones that migrated from the legacy forums only have titles, no explanations. I don't know if this was done on purpose or if it's just due to improvisation, a lack of time on BioWare's side and whether there's a chance they'd actually welcome it if we'd offer them short explanations for our forums, too.
Modifié par olivier leroux, 13 août 2010 - 12:16 .
#28
Posté 13 août 2010 - 12:28
Shia Luck
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I think you've made a fantastic effort to incorporate most of the ideas suggested so far Oliver.
It has my vote
It has my vote
Modifié par Shia Luck, 13 août 2010 - 12:29 .
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Posté 14 août 2010 - 03:21
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Looks fine to me. As far as descriptions go, I think they made the assumption that because they believe nwn is a "legacy" game (NAFAIC when you can go to your local supermarket and buy it brand new in the box) they don't have to, because everybody knows what they mean.Having looked again at the numbers using the various forums I still find it puzzling why there are so few topics in the toolset forum. I'm sure it was busyer than that on the old forums. Cest la vie.
Anyway, Olivier I think that list looks good.
TR
Anyway, Olivier I think that list looks good.
TR
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Posté 15 août 2010 - 12:15
olivier leroux
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Thanks, Shia Luck and Tarot Redhand! Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
