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Lair of the Shadow Broker- Liara DLC Announced


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rorrim180 wrote...


Thanks for the life lesson...
Technical jargon aside, i have no problem with paying for downloadable content that adds real value to the game, Overlord being the perfect example. I have a couple of friends in the industry, I know how hard they work. My issue is with charging for things like an alternate appearence pack for 3 characters (two of which were ruined, imo, by lame eyewear) or a helmet and a gun.

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You don't have to get the extra packs like that though. It's not vital to the game. So you wouldn't be missing out on it. Image IPB I didn't buy Equalizer. I have a lot of M$ points, but still I don't think it's worth it, to me personally, because of the inferno armor. I already have it, I'm not paying for it. While I agree that the alt. appearance packs should be free, it's only like 1-2$ though right? I fogot how much 160 ms points is.

This DLC seems like it will be on par, if not above, with Overlord and Kasumi. I just wish they'd give a release date, or a trailer.

 -Polite

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The Shadow Broker is an AI!

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MadInfiltrator wrote...

The Shadow Broker is an AI!


That would be interesting...

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iv written a story iv called "Mass Effect: Rise and Fall of the Purple Hawks " i would love it if you people could take a read and leave me feed back you can be as brutle as you want if your interested just go to the blog section.

thanks

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MadInfiltrator wrote...

The Shadow Broker is an AI!


Y'know, I bet you're right. So much so, that I'd be willing to bet money that the Shadow Broker is indeed an AI. I'm surprised I never thought of that.

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I'm surprised this story isn't going to be in ME3. I always thought the defeat of the Shadowbroker would be part of the EndGame.



Well I hope they put more squad interaction into this DLC. The amount of Squad dialogue in these DLCs is piddly. One would at least hope Garrus and Tali get something special to say.

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Hi everyone,



As Christina tweeted, some of the new guns you are seeing in those screens are not in the Lair of the Shadow Broker pack. They are in fact part of a different pack that will be released prior to Lair of the Shadowbroker - more details coming very soon. While this was simply intended to tease them I can see how it could be misleading, so I must apologize for that.



Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.



Best Regards,



Jarrett




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Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hi everyone,

As Christina tweeted, some of the new guns you are seeing in those screens are not in the Lair of the Shadow Broker pack. They are in fact part of a different pack that will be released prior to Lair of the Shadowbroker - more details coming very soon. While this was simply intended to tease them I can see how it could be misleading, so I must apologize for that.

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Best Regards,

Jarrett


Nice! You guys rock!

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Lair of the Shadow Broker to have hot blue alien sex confirmed? :D

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hi everyone,

As Christina tweeted, some of the new guns you are seeing in those screens are not in the Lair of the Shadow Broker pack. They are in fact part of a different pack that will be released prior to Lair of the Shadowbroker - more details coming very soon. While this was simply intended to tease them I can see how it could be misleading, so I must apologize for that.

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Best Regards,

Jarrett


Nice! So can we expect a late August release?

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great make it for everyone first and then say something

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uzivatel wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Lair of the Shadow Broker to have hot blue alien sex confirmed? :D


Aw man, was it that obvious?? :D

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Even better. Mission and more gear, I'd best get some more points!

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kennyv217 wrote...


Nice! So can we expect a late August release?


Oh I just mean in August we'll be revealing more stuff. :)

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hi everyone,

As Christina tweeted, some of the new guns you are seeing in those screens are not in the Lair of the Shadow Broker pack. They are in fact part of a different pack that will be released prior to Lair of the Shadowbroker - more details coming very soon. While this was simply intended to tease them I can see how it could be misleading, so I must apologize for that.

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Best Regards,

Jarrett


Peachy, and this DLC is not for polish, czech etc/ users. Thanks you once again BW *sigh*

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying DLC release yet for ME2.

Lair of the Shadow Broker to have hot blue alien sex confirmed? :D


Aw man, was it that obvious?? :D


LMAO!!!

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

kennyv217 wrote...


Nice! So can we expect a late August release?


Oh I just mean in August we'll be revealing more stuff. :)


So when's the weapon pack coming out?

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Just because "that's the way it is" doesn't make it right. When EA employees were working 80+ hours a week and not being compensated for it because "That's the way it is", someone finally stood up to it and they were sued. Unfortunately it won't stop until people just refuse to pay for the additional content. The storage chest in Dragon Age Origins is a perfect example of absolute greed. It should have been offered free to players and not included as a "feature" in a DLC that costs money.

Don't get me wrong, though. I have no problem paying for an expansion pack or DLC (Overlord). I just have a problem with the smaller things costing money and DLC being a priority over squashing bugs.

Everything in life isn't free. We currently have an equal amount of free DLc as we do paid DLC. We have enough free content. This content takes lots of work to create. Unless your in the industry, or know the process that they use, you won't understand the extent of the development process. Even for a small piece of DLc such as a weapon or a piece of armor.

Let me just try to break it down a little for you:

Overlord -

The team most likely had to model quite a few static meshes for the environment, although generally its easier to re-use some old ones. But some of the assets on that DLC looked new to me.

After you model the assets, you must UV map them - and that's no easy task, especially for high poly models.After you UV the model, you create a texture for it. But it's not as simple as that. You'd need a specularity and a bump map to get it to look good. Sometimes you'd even need an emissive for textures containng lights, or a bright portion.

Once you've created all of that, and mind you this is for one particular model, you must import those assets into a package in UED. Once you've got your texture in there, you have to create a material out of the components I listed above. Depending on how good you want the texture to look, you'll be spending quite some time in the material editor.

After that, and again mind you that's one static mesh, you go to place your asset in the environment.

Now imagine doing that for about 20-30 meshes. Including unique textures for all of them.

Once you've made your static meshes and materials, you go to create BSP. That's pretty much the foundation for you environment. This also could take a while, depending on the size of your environment. Overlord is pretty big.

After you've layed out the foundations, you must lay out the static meshes, place the lighting, particle effects, path the AI, script the sequences in Kismet and Matinee, and a whole bunch of other stuff that would take me a long time to explain.

This is the process that the devs have to go through to make content. It's no easy task. It takes dedication, hard work.

The reason I posted this was because I want you to see things from their perspective. If you were doing all of this, would you want to release it for free? Or would you like for your hard work to be compensated? I didn't even include all of the details of what they'd have to do. Theres also the VO work, scripting the dialogue and possible outcomes, the list goes on.

Just try to be a little understanding is all I'm asking.


And you've not even gone into the programmers job. I'm a Graphics Programmer myself, specialized in 3D graphics and such, so I'm quite used to it. When I play Mass Effect 2 I'm amazed at the work they've done, that's no easy task at all, even if you're using the Unreal Engine (and on DA:O they made their own engine, as far as I know).

Modifié par Kenrae, 23 juillet 2010 - 07:35 .


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Jarrett Lee wrote...

uzivatel wrote...
Lair of the Shadow Broker to have hot blue alien sex confirmed? :D

Aw man, was it that obvious?? :D

You are such a tease, Jarrett.
I am going to hate you sooo much if its not actually there. :lol:

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Peachy, and this DLC is not for polish, czech etc/ users. Thanks you once again BW *sigh*


Latin-2 languages...

Is that the problem? Because that's so... basic. Where can I find a list of the languages Mass Effect 2 is localized to?

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Jackal904 wrote...

MadInfiltrator wrote...

The Shadow Broker is an AI!


Y'know, I bet you're right. So much so, that I'd be willing to bet money that the Shadow Broker is indeed an AI. I'm surprised I never thought of that.


Without going too off topic, but the 'Shadow broker is an AI' debate reminded me of MGS4:

POSSIBLE SPOILERS:





The Shadow Broker is a group or individual with a powerful information network that makes use of 'agents' and mercenary groups to carry out its' deeds. Sorry if this seems irrelevant but it reminds me off the Patriots in MGS4.

A group that started off as a powerful faction of individuals with a vast information source with political pull, which then deteriated into a shell and then reborn due to the advancement of technology into a powerful AI network secretly being the force that keeps everything in the world in order.

I'm very intrigued by the nature of the Shadow Broker and hopefully this story delves into some of the backstory of it, or at least leads to similar confrontations with the entitity in ME3 so hopefully this does 'bridge' quite nicely with the finale of the series.

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Sparroww wrote...
The Shadow Broker is a group or individual with a powerful information network that makes use of 'agents' and mercenary groups to carry out its' deeds. Sorry if this seems irrelevant but it reminds me off the Patriots in MGS4.

A group that started off as a powerful faction of individuals with a vast information source with political pull, which then deteriated into a shell and then reborn due to the advancement of technology into a powerful AI network secretly being the force that keeps everything in the world in order.

I'm very intrigued by the nature of the Shadow Broker and hopefully this story delves into some of the backstory of it, or at least leads to similar confrontations with the entitity in ME3 so hopefully this does 'bridge' quite nicely with the finale of the series.


Sounds Deus-Exesque :D.

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Jarrett Lee you just made my day.

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

kennyv217 wrote...


Nice! So can we expect a late August release?


Oh I just mean in August we'll be revealing more stuff. :)

Hi Jarett, I remember you from the old forum.  It's good to see you again.

All joking about blue alien sex aside, I'd like to say how important it is for me, and for all those who romanced Liara, to have some kind of recognition of that romance in the DLC.  Most of us were disappointed with the lack of any romance-specific dialogue in ME2.  If if wasn't for the awkward half-kiss, there would not have been any recognition of the romance at all. We desperately need to know that there is at least a chance for a rekindling of their love story at some point in the future. Please give our Shepards an oppurtunity to (at the very least) tell Liara how much she means to them.  And please keep in mind how much we love Liara, and how much we want to see her happy, and together with Shepard once again.

Thanks. 
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Jarrett, Liara romance content? Yes please!