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Lair of the Shadow Broker- Liara DLC Announced


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jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, that would make sense.

So, basically if you save after playing LotSB, it will matter in ME3...hopefully :D

At the very least, it will change a news report in ME3.

Of course it will, otherwise what's the point of this whole post-SM play feature?

EDIT: Okay, back on topic!

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Oh... and I own a PS3 and I don't eat bunnies.


Damn me and my lack of proper information...

Does that...does that mean I need to stop eating puppies in retaliation? :?

Sorry haha, but anyways, back on topic

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Businesses don't ignore their
regulars, it's one of the most basic laws of making money--once you have
a customer, keep that customer.


My thoughts exactly, it would be nothing short of monumentaly stupid for BW to suddenly ignore their main source of income for the series over an interest that has not yet come to fruition. With DLC they can still make (relatively) steady money whereas the PS3 crowd is still a while away for anything at all. The smart thing would be to work on the PS3 version but still (and pardon the term) milk the 360/PC crowd :whistle:

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On topic: do you think the moment they reveal the Shadow Broker's true identity will be a huge 'holy crap!!' moment, or a 'meh, whatever' huge disappointment?



Also, I assume the identity of the SB will be kept under locks throughout the entire DLC until the very end....could you see this as not being the case though? I guess the other options would be either an early reveal of the SB's identity, or that they never reveal it (in LotSB at least)

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jlb524 wrote...

On topic: do you think the moment they reveal the Shadow Broker's true identity will be a huge 'holy crap!!' moment, or a 'meh, whatever' huge disappointment?

Also, I assume the identity of the SB will be kept under locks throughout the entire DLC until the very end....could you see this as not being the case though? I guess the other options would be either an early reveal of the SB's identity, or that they never reveal it (in LotSB at least)

It SHOULD be a huge holy crap moment. I'm also quite certain we won't see the Shadow Broker until the very end, then you get to make one epic decision, accompanied with relevant squadmate banter (well, we can only hope).

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I actually think that they might not reveal it, sorta like we come into the room where we finally face him/her/them down and it is the same thing from the Revelations comics where it is just a Machine/Mannequin waiting there for us while the real SB is long gone. It is an often used villain plot device and they would save themselves from killing off a very big ME lore character.



I don't think it will end as a "meh" sorta thing since that reaction would usually imply you already knowing/obvious choice and so far the series has never given us anything to even begin guessing SB's identity.



I think it would likely be more of a "That's who it is?" or even a "Well that was unexpected" moment.



If Overlord was anything to go on, they do know how to end a DLC on an interesting note.

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I'm hoping that the revelation of the Shadow Broker's identity will be a huge "holy crap!" moment. People have been eagerly anticipating and speculating on the true nature of the Shadow Broker's identity, and I hope that it is something shocking and unexpected enough to live up to that expectation.



Oh, and I am fairly sure that it's identity will be revealed at the conclusion of the DLC.

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Just throwing this idea out there. I think SB is the Council....or it really was Barla Von all along.



Or maybe a Spectre? Hmm...

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What endgame save? You can import ANY save created after you beat the main plot. There is no special save like in ME1.

I don't think it's any save, but rather the last save. That is, every time you make a save post-SM, it will overwrite your previous progress and update it with whatever progress you made with this last save, even if you have other saves under the same career. The last save is what ME3 reads (otherwise you'd have tons of importable saves!).


Why last save? Makes no sense. The savegame files contain all the necessary information. "Last" save is not any different than "Last-1" save (except for the changes you do in between of course).

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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I don't mean to sound impatient, but why haven't we heard word from Bioware of more info from this DLC. It has been announced for almost a month now.


Nobody knows, and that's why people are beginning to grow impatient and get frustrated. I'm confident that we will hear something next week, however. Call it a hunch.


I'm starting to wonder if they'll wait till PAX to release any new info. 

I think most us fans don't mind waiting but it's the not knowing for how long after it's been announced which is frustrating most of all.  Telling fans a DLC is coming but then not telling them anything and wondering why endless and unfocused deiscussion is creating threads hundreds of pages long... is Bioware seriously surprised?  I'm not sure if frustrating fans with a info blackout is a good business model but then again I don't run things so what do i know.

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Kriztaen wrote...

Just throwing this idea out there. I think SB is the Council....or it really was Barla Von all along.

Or maybe a Spectre? Hmm...

Armistan Banes :wizard:

I just bought 1600 MS points, since I spent my last 1600 points on Leliana's Song and other Dragon Age DLC. At this time of August, I expect LOTB to show up at any second, so it's always nice to be ready! 

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Kriztaen wrote...

Just throwing this idea out there. I think SB is the Council....or it really was Barla Von all along.

Or maybe a Spectre? Hmm...


Barla Von is dead IIRC according to a random news bit.  That may mean he WAS the Shadow Broker and his duties xfer over to someone else

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Kronner wrote...

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Kronner wrote...

What endgame save? You can import ANY save created after you beat the main plot. There is no special save like in ME1.

I don't think it's any save, but rather the last save. That is, every time you make a save post-SM, it will overwrite your previous progress and update it with whatever progress you made with this last save, even if you have other saves under the same career. The last save is what ME3 reads (otherwise you'd have tons of importable saves!).


Why last save? Makes no sense. The savegame files contain all the necessary information. "Last" save is not any different than "Last-1" save (except for the changes you do in between of course).

We're both speculating.

I just think the last save idea is more likley because that way you won't end up with 989293293 importable saves under the same one career.

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Regarding the true identity of the Shadow Broker, there are various theories and extensive speculation. Some think that it may be the thirteenth member of the League of One, others believe it to be Liara's other parent. Some believe that it might be the last Prothean, possibly Ksad Ishan, being kept alive artificially, whilst others believe that it might even be Sha'ira.



Me? No idea. I like the last Prothean theory, though.

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Since tomorrow is actually Sunday I think we can safely say that tomorrow we won't see diddly squat.  It is possible we may hear something on Tuesday 24th August but I wouldn't get my hopes up about it.


Oh yeah forgot it was Sunday tomorrow lol, your probally right then.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Regarding the true identity of the Shadow Broker, there are various theories and extensive speculation. Some think that it may be the thirteenth member of the League of One, others believe it to be Liara's other parent. Some believe that it might be the last Prothean, possibly Ksad Ishan, being kept alive artificially, whilst others believe that it might even be Sha'ira.

Me? No idea. I like the last Prothean theory, though.


I wouldn't mind some of those - as long as it makes sense and is intrigueing, and they haven't made it a jarring twist just for the sake of it.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Regarding the true identity of the Shadow Broker, there are various theories and extensive speculation. Some think that it may be the thirteenth member of the League of One, others believe it to be Liara's other parent. Some believe that it might be the last Prothean, possibly Ksad Ishan, being kept alive artificially, whilst others believe that it might even be Sha'ira.

Me? No idea. I like the last Prothean theory, though.


I wouldn't mind some of those - as long as it makes sense and is intrigueing, and they haven't made it a jarring twist just for the sake of it.


I still want it to be a brotherhood, so you can kill one of them but then the shadowbroker is still around for the thrid game.

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Ahhh, good point - yeah might be pretty lame if the SB is totally done with after this DLC

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Ahhh, good point - yeah might be pretty lame if the SB is totally done with after this DLC


Well I cant seem something that has been eluded to the whole two games killed off in a DLC, unless this is a major expansion, which i doubt highly. Still hope for it though:wizard:

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theelementslayer wrote...

I still want it to be a brotherhood, so you can kill one of them but then the shadowbroker is still around for the thrid game.


That is possible too.  It may be that you take down a few of them in LotSB, but a few are still around for ME3.  Perhaps the remaing members decide to ally with Shepard in ME3, after witnessing what the Commander + Liara did to the others in LotSB?

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

We're both speculating.

I just think the last save idea is more likley because that way you won't end up with 989293293 importable saves under the same one career.


I am not speculating. I checked it, all savegames have the same structure. You can also import any post SM save to start NG+.

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Interesting that they have Liara reiterate Barla Von's theory of the Shadow Broker being a group of individuals operating under one name, though. Is it worth reading anything into that? Why did BioWare and the writers feel it necessary to ensure that those who have not played ME1 are aware of this theory?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Interesting that they have Liara reiterate Barla Von's theory of the Shadow Broker being a group of individuals operating under one name, though. Is it worth reading anything into that? Why did BioWare and the writers feel it necessary to ensure that those who have not played ME1 are aware of this theory?


They did?  I didn't notice. 

Didn't Anderson mention this as well?

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jlb524 wrote...

They did?  I didn't notice. 

Didn't Anderson mention this as well?


Nah, I mean in ME2. IIRC, the only instances in which the Shadow Broker is mentioned in ME2 are during Liara's scenes, and after the Collector Ship mission, in TIM's debriefing.

I just found it interesting that Liara reiterates Barla Von's theory of the Shadow Broker perhaps being a group of individuals operating under one name. I'm wondering if this is perhaps indicative of the SB's indentity.

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I don't remember specifically what she said...I will check my vids.

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It's something like:



"He's the most powerful and dangerous information broker in the galaxy. Given his resources, there's speculation that it's actually an entire group operating under one name."



Odd that BW neglect to have Liara repeat Barla Von's other theories.