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Why does it seem like everyone hates Jacob? Ya, he's kinda generic and boring,but in comparison he's like Kaidan to me.

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I guess because Kaidan talked with me and was open to me. I get the impression if we had journeyed to a planet where we found out his dad raped and murdered a bunch of people, he would talk to me about it.

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Kaidan had time to cope with his problems and you didn't know kaidan's problems unless you asked. Jacob just dealt with his problems and you were there. I understand why he didn't talk about it

Modifié par AilCross1912, 22 août 2010 - 03:06 .


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PHub88 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

Just throwing it out there; what if the Shadowbroker is Mirandas father..? He's really powerful, right? makes sense to me at least, unless there's something i've missed..


Well Miranda knows her father...and well...Yeah I guess its possible...the Shadow Broker could be a known person who just keeps his idenity a secret...but I always pictured the SB to be someone who never leaves his place and never is seen...if anything the most logical choice is like Cerberus does...move around.


Makes sense also, just thinkin' since there's been such emphasis that he's so very very powerful during different situations/conversations in ME2..and Miranda hasn't been in touch with her father for ages, and might even be oblivious to his potential status as the SB.

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BatteryFan wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

Just throwing it out there; what if the Shadowbroker is Mirandas father..? He's really powerful, right? makes sense to me at least, unless there's something i've missed..


Well Miranda knows her father...and well...Yeah I guess its possible...the Shadow Broker could be a known person who just keeps his idenity a secret...but I always pictured the SB to be someone who never leaves his place and never is seen...if anything the most logical choice is like Cerberus does...move around.


Makes sense also, just thinkin' since there's been such emphasis that he's so very very powerful during different situations/conversations in ME2..and Miranda hasn't been in touch with her father for ages, and might even be oblivious to his potential status as the SB.


I don't think so because Miranda said that her father used to be a proud contributer to Cerberus until she ran away and joined Cerberus. I also think that the Shadow Broker has been around before humans were popular.

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AilCross1912 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

Just throwing it out there; what if the Shadowbroker is Mirandas father..? He's really powerful, right? makes sense to me at least, unless there's something i've missed..


Well Miranda knows her father...and well...Yeah I guess its possible...the Shadow Broker could be a known person who just keeps his idenity a secret...but I always pictured the SB to be someone who never leaves his place and never is seen...if anything the most logical choice is like Cerberus does...move around.


Makes sense also, just thinkin' since there's been such emphasis that he's so very very powerful during different situations/conversations in ME2..and Miranda hasn't been in touch with her father for ages, and might even be oblivious to his potential status as the SB.


I don't think so because Miranda said that her father used to be a proud contributer to Cerberus until she ran away and joined Cerberus. I also think that the Shadow Broker has been around before humans were popular.


Point taken..:)

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My money is on the Consort. (Shiera?) Maybe she's even Liara's "father" for a lame twist.

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AilCross1912 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

BatteryFan wrote...

Just throwing it out there; what if the Shadowbroker is Mirandas father..? He's really powerful, right? makes sense to me at least, unless there's something i've missed..


Well Miranda knows her father...and well...Yeah I guess its possible...the Shadow Broker could be a known person who just keeps his idenity a secret...but I always pictured the SB to be someone who never leaves his place and never is seen...if anything the most logical choice is like Cerberus does...move around.


Makes sense also, just thinkin' since there's been such emphasis that he's so very very powerful during different situations/conversations in ME2..and Miranda hasn't been in touch with her father for ages, and might even be oblivious to his potential status as the SB.


I don't think so because Miranda said that her father used to be a proud contributer to Cerberus until she ran away and joined Cerberus. I also think that the Shadow Broker has been around before humans were popular.


Nah man, I mean like how Cerberus operates...In Retribution they talk alot about this...Illusive Man is constantly moving stations...switching ships...to stay hard to track....thats what I was saying about the SB...I would imagine someone like that wouldnt want to sit in one place...assuming he or she is even one person.

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phatpat63 wrote...

My money is on the Consort. (Shiera?) Maybe she's even Liara's "father" for a lame twist.


Would make me laugh considering my Renegon MaleShep slept with both of them in ME1.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 22 août 2010 - 03:35 .


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MassEffect762 wrote...

phatpat63 wrote...

My money is on the Consort. (Shiera?) Maybe she's even Liara's "father" for a lame twist.


Would make me laugh considering my Renegon MaleShep slept with both of them in ME1.


Lmao, That would be an awkward? moment.

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AilCross1912 wrote...

Why does it seem like everyone hates Jacob? Ya, he's kinda generic and boring,but in comparison he's like Kaidan to me.


if you put it like that then in my book they are both douchebags in my book

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Hmm...I like both Kaidan and Jacob.



Liara ...I just like her more and in a very special way.

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annihilator27 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

phatpat63 wrote...

My money is on the Consort. (Shiera?) Maybe she's even Liara's "father" for a lame twist.


Would make me laugh considering my Renegon MaleShep slept with both of them in ME1.


Lmao, That would be an awkward? moment.


Consort: Liara, meet your new sister, Tiara
Liara: My own baby sister?
Consort: And I think you know the father *smiles to Shepard*
LiarA: Oh my...
SheparD: THAt'S RIGHT, you're my girlfriend, AND my step-daughter
Liara: ....
Cosnort ....!

*several hours later*

Zaeed: Just got back from the Shadow Broker thing. Only I made it back alive.

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TelexFerra wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

phatpat63 wrote...

My money is on the Consort. (Shiera?) Maybe she's even Liara's "father" for a lame twist.


Would make me laugh considering my Renegon MaleShep slept with both of them in ME1.


Lmao, That would be an awkward? moment.


Consort: Liara, meet your new sister, Tiara
Liara: My own baby sister?
Consort: And I think you know the father *smiles to Shepard*
LiarA: Oh my...
SheparD: THAt'S RIGHT, you're my girlfriend, AND my step-daughter
Liara: ....
Cosnort ....!

*several hours later*

Zaeed: Just got back from the Shadow Broker thing. Only I made it back alive.


LMAO. Damn. Zaeed is the ****. I hope hes back in ME3. Thane "What happened" Zaeed "Shepard is one crazy bold ambitious son of a ****"

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This is one thing that really annoys me about 'fans'. Not everyone is someone. The Shadow Broker isn't going to be a character that was mentioned or that we already know, that's just lazy storytelling. The 'reveal' would simply relate to his species, location and public identity, assuming he has one, not that 'OMG It's Liara's Dad in a massive coinicidence!".

Modifié par JakePT, 22 août 2010 - 04:24 .


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JakePT wrote...

This is one thing that really annoys me about 'fans'. Not everyone is someone. The Shadow Broker isn't going to be a character that was mentioned or that we already know, that's just lazy storytelling. The 'reveal' would simply relate to his species, location and public identity, assuming he has one, not that 'OMG It's Liara's Dad in a massive coinicidence!".


While I largely agree with you, it's a tricky place for the writers to be in. You don't want it to be a known character because that's silly, but you also don't want it to just be Some Dude, because THAT"S silly, and you reeeally don't want want it to be a sentient AI, because that's just a cliche. It's probably gonna be one of the three, and there are major cons to each.

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casedawgz wrote...

JakePT wrote...

This is one thing that really annoys me about 'fans'. Not everyone is someone. The Shadow Broker isn't going to be a character that was mentioned or that we already know, that's just lazy storytelling. The 'reveal' would simply relate to his species, location and public identity, assuming he has one, not that 'OMG It's Liara's Dad in a massive coinicidence!".


While I largely agree with you, it's a tricky place for the writers to be in. You don't want it to be a known character because that's silly, but you also don't want it to just be Some Dude, because THAT"S silly, and you reeeally don't want want it to be a sentient AI, because that's just a cliche. It's probably gonna be one of the three, and there are major cons to each.


Not to mention that to tell a truly epic and memorable story you need to pleasantly surprise the audience....that's the only way to create a massive fanbase. Take Star Wars and it's twist regarding Luke's father.......bash it all you like it resonted with a lot of people and created a cult audience numbering in the tens of millions.  As far as RPGs go the game most praised for having an epic plot twist is KotOR which has one of the most beautifully executed plot twists I've ever seen.

Sure they can fall into lame territory with something like this but is executed well it can give them the touch they need to largely increase their fanbase and besides a lot o people will be largely disappointed if the grand revelation is: "Oh it's some dude nobody knew of".....that is far lazier writing because they didn't even consider making an interesting character be the big bad boss. Liara's father would probably be the weakest puff largely because too many screamed it up and down the forums and Liara already had a dramatic family face-off so I doubt a second one would resonate with the larger audience that isn't posting here on the forums. They need something new and fresh and shocking and amazing.....preferably related to Shepard in a very personal way.

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I like to think the shadow broker is a volus. come on no one takes them seriously!



An AI program would be waay predictable and already done in KOTOR2

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The Shadow Broker has to be one of four things. One of the really longer lived species(asari, because a krogan would be stupid, as they're stupid), a member of the lesser lived species with the position passed down family lines, a group of individuals, or an AI. My money is on the third one.



It can't be Feron simply because the Drell haven't been around long enough for it to be him. The Hanar rescued them what... a few centuries ago?

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I like to think the shadow broker is a volus. come on no one takes them seriously!


I was thinking it would be fun to have one in your squad in ME3.

But since they are not fit to fight and requir service of turians and krogans for combat, i doubt it.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 22 août 2010 - 08:46 .


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is there a date yet for the shadowbroker dlc? i cant find a date for announcing the date that would date the date when the dlc comes out.. i think

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AilCross1912 wrote...

Why does it seem like everyone hates Jacob? Ya, he's kinda generic and boring,but in comparison he's like Kaidan to me.

Its what he represents...

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I expect the Shadow Broker to be either asari or human.

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As unlikely and corny as it may be.... I would be pretty happy if  Barla Von pulled a soze and turned out to be the Shadow Broker despite the unreported reports of his mortality. Just imagine in the final moments you break into his office, you can cut the air with a knife and all of a sudden this brooding dark leather swivel chair turns 'round and you hear... "hello, again... [breathing], earth clan!"

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I really doubt that the shadow broker is gonna be human, seeing as the broker seems to have been around for alot longer than the induction of humans to the galactic stage. If it is a human then I'm gonna bet that it will turn out to only be a "cell" that works as a front of the shadow broker...



As epic as my little Liara is I bet it's gonna be a lot harder to track down the SB,



One thing I would love to see is an epic battle with Tazzik, from the Redemption comics XD

http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Tazzik



A big badass Salarian who will try to kick the crap outta you and your squad. Maybe have abit of history between him and Zaeed seeing as they could have clashed before in their line of work :P