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New DLC Announced: Lair of the Shadowbroker


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ShadowJ20 wrote...

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 we've already seen miranda pwn merc asari commando enyala when she got pissed.


Lool.Where?You must have a different game.Enyala would tear miranda into pieces without any help from outside..


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.


in a one on one fight i believe Enyala would turn Miranda into an Asari coffee cup easily :D

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ShadowJ20 wrote...


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.

Will doesnt beat biotic potential.And enyala has more of it.Especially better barriers...(oh,i forgot,sentinels use shields now/dont matter)

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...
 we've already seen miranda pwn merc asari commando enyala when she got pissed.


Lool.Where?You must have a different game.Enyala would tear miranda into pieces without any help from outside..


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.


in a one on one fight i believe Enyala would turn Miranda into an Asari coffee cup easily :D



uhhh NO! miranda pwned her before the fight even started if you take paragon option...when miranda is pissed she kills everything in sight EX: wilson and an army of mechs including heavys on lazarus station

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tonnactus wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.

Will doesnt beat biotic potential.And enyala has more of it.Especially better barriers...(oh,i forgot,sentinels use shields now/dont matter)


People do realize miranda has more than biotics right? and shields make biotics a joke Posted Image

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Your saying that you could start the new DLC without having done her two quests? Correct?

-Polite


Yes. I then explained how the fact that they have not been completed could easily been handwaved away, and Liara could provide a brief explanation of the situation between her and the Shadow Broker prior to the start of the DLC.

Why is it an absolute necessity that the two quests be completed before the DLC is triggered? Neither on them have any kind of profound story influence.


Because if that was the case it would render those two quests useless, and there would be no need for them to be in game. I'm fairly certain that you'll have to do those two quests before that pops up. You won't even know she's trying to take down the Shadow Broker without talking to her about her problems, thus triggering the quests.

-Polite

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so true Polite

i do believe you need those quests first, why else put them in in the first place?

if you could trigger the DLC without them?

don't tell me that they are just there so there was a reason to talk to Liara

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I really hope its post-suicide mission DLC....and released SOOOOON.

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Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...

uhhh NO! miranda pwned her before the fight even started if you take paragon option...

No.One sucessfull biotic attack isnt "pwning".

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Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...
 we've already seen miranda pwn merc asari commando enyala when she got pissed.


Lool.Where?You must have a different game.Enyala would tear miranda into pieces without any help from outside..


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.


in a one on one fight i believe Enyala would turn Miranda into an Asari coffee cup easily :D



uhhh NO! miranda pwned her before the fight even started if you take paragon option...when miranda is pissed she kills everything in sight EX: wilson and an army of mechs including heavys on lazarus station


Don't know who it was anymore but i believe it is at Omega when someone tells you that Asari Commandos are the best and strongest fighters in the galaxy, and it is a good thing that there are so few of them
and look for example at Aria T'Loak who had beaten Patriarch 
i doubt  that Miranda could manage on her own


Edit: Aria tells you she's an ex Asari Commando amunst other things

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 06 août 2010 - 12:28 .


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btu were getting side tracked here,

shouldn't this be about Liara instead of Enyala vs Miranda?



just my cup of coffee :P

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...
 we've already seen miranda pwn merc asari commando enyala when she got pissed.


Lool.Where?You must have a different game.Enyala would tear miranda into pieces without any help from outside..


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.


in a one on one fight i believe Enyala would turn Miranda into an Asari coffee cup easily :D



uhhh NO! miranda pwned her before the fight even started if you take paragon option...when miranda is pissed she kills everything in sight EX: wilson and an army of mechs including heavys on lazarus station


Don't know who it was anymore but i believe it is at Omega who tells you that Asari Commandos are the best and strongest fighters in the galaxy, and it is a good thing that there are so few of them
and look for example at Aria T'Loak who had beaten Patriarch 
i doubt  that Miranda could manage on her own


Edit: Aria tells you she's an ex Asari Commando amunst other things


People seem to think miranda is an ordinary human that just works for cerebrus..she is humanity at it's peak in everyway! her genetic modification wasn't just for her butt she is just as skilled with a gun as shepard, zaeed, or jacob would be (only reason she can't use assualt rifle ingame is devs stated didn't look good with her model)
And there's no indication to believe that enyala was a better biotic than miranda all she had was a big ass shotgun and a tough attitude

Miranda would beat the livivng **** out of enyala...it's a factPosted Image

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tonnactus wrote...

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Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.

Will doesnt beat biotic potential.And enyala has more of it.Especially better barriers...(oh,i forgot,sentinels use shields now/dont matter)


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.  Everyone you recruit on your squad is the elites of the elites in the galaxy.  About everyone in Shep's squad can take on asari commando.

Modifié par ShadowJ20, 06 août 2010 - 12:39 .


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ShadowJ20 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...


Miranda is fighting for her sister's life so  I don't think Enyala can take her.

Will doesnt beat biotic potential.And enyala has more of it.Especially better barriers...(oh,i forgot,sentinels use shields now/dont matter)


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.


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ShadowJ20 wrote...


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.


Cutscenes? Then Jacks ones with her overrated biotics was far more impressive.

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tonnactus wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.


Cutscenes? Then Jacks ones with her overrated biotics was far more impressive.


Jack is arguably the most powerful biotic in the galaxy by far (not even samara can take on 3 heavy mechs with a fist) I doubt even shepard could take jack down in a one on one fight

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tonnactus wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.


Cutscenes? Then Jacks ones with her overrated biotics was far more impressive.


You can use guns in a fight too.  Just because if someone has stronger biotics doesn't mean they automatically win.  Since Jack and Samara are the only one strong enough to hold the biotic barrier therefore their biotics are the strongest in the squad.  Miranda is probably the 3rd strongest biotic on the squad.  If Enyala was so good then TIM would've given you a dossier to recruit her.  She is a merc after all and TIM is rich. Just about everyone on the squad can beat Enyala.  The elites of the elites are on Shep's squad that's why you recruit them in the first place. I don't think Asari commandos are the strongest Asari's......I think Justicars are. Take Samara for example.  Asari commandos aren't much of a match for her.

I dont' want to mess up this thread so i'm not posting anymore.

Modifié par ShadowJ20, 06 août 2010 - 12:52 .


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ShadowJ20 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...


Biotics are overrated and Miranda has enhanced genes (improved reflexes, faster healing).  Besides Thane took out a few Asari commandos with ease when you recruit him.


Cutscenes? Then Jacks ones with her overrated biotics was far more impressive.


Since Jack and Samara are the only one strong enough to hold the biotic barrier therefore their biotics are the strongest.  Miranda is probably the 3rd strongest biotic on the squad.  If Enyala was so good then TIM would've given you a dossier.


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Thane is a skilled assassin vs Miranda is not (apart from that i don't like her, but hell Don't like Tali either)

so that's not the point


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[quote]Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...

[quote]ShadowJ20 wrote...

[quote]tonnactus wrote...

[quote]ShadowJ20 wrote...


 If Enyala was so good then TIM would've given you a dossier.

[/quote]

Why would TIM give you a file on Enyala ?
she's an enemy not an ally

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Hell, Legion is a far better Tech than Tali and a very good sniper but TIM didn't give you a dossier on him
so that doesn't fly

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 06 août 2010 - 12:55 .


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[quote]wickedwizzard01 wrote...

[quote]Bom_diggidy_Wrex wrote...

[quote]ShadowJ20 wrote...

[quote]tonnactus wrote...

[quote]ShadowJ20 wrote...


 If Enyala was so good then TIM would've given you a dossier.

[/quote]

Why would TIM give you a file on Enyala ?
she's an enemy not an ally[/quote]

She's merc..just pay her more money.

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

Thane is a skilled assassin vs Miranda is not (apart from that i don't like her, but hell Don't like Tali either)
so that's not the point


Miranda is Genetically modified super human with the best training money can buy...enyala is an asari with a shotgun and we have no indication of any real talents

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

Hell, Legion is a far better Tech than Tali and a very good sniper but TIM didn't give you a dossier on him
so that doesn't fly


legion is a geth why how could he possibly know about legion being the only friendly geth in the universe that can talkPosted Image

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

Your saying that you could start the new DLC without having done her two quests? Correct?

-Polite


Yes. I then explained how the fact that they have not been completed could easily been handwaved away, and Liara could provide a brief explanation of the situation between her and the Shadow Broker prior to the start of the DLC.

Why is it an absolute necessity that the two quests be completed before the DLC is triggered? Neither on them have any kind of profound story influence.


Because if that was the case it would render those two quests useless, and there would be no need for them to be in game. I'm fairly certain that you'll have to do those two quests before that pops up. You won't even know she's trying to take down the Shadow Broker without talking to her about her problems, thus triggering the quests.

-Polite


Then why is there audio of her talking about the quests as if they weren't done yet, but when the Shadow Broker is dead?

Plus, you can ask Liara what she's up to and she tells you that she's after the Shadow Broker before you even ask "What can I do to help?" meaning the 2 quests are still optional most likely not required for the DLC.

Modifié par DaBigDragon, 06 août 2010 - 01:01 .


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Enyala probably has a few century's of training i bet that counts for something