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[PWENER]

EatChildren wrote...

PWENER wrote...

BW knows best, but it's a DLC, so I don't expect a big twist or such. I do hope it's someone new and not some stupid rip-off character we've already seen or heard about. Hell, we may not even get to see him or fight him in the DLC. It's a DLC people, there may be people who import to ME3 without playing it, and meeting the Shadow Broker is a pretty big deal in my book. I think he escapes or something and we meet him in ME3 as one of the game's major enemies. That would be more linear and story friendly then importing to ME3 with the Shadow Broker alive and kicking... HELLO, his a major villain, he can't be allowed to live and mess up Shepard's mission in saving the galaxy, he works for the freaking Reapers, and what is the point of killing him now on DLC if I can kill him in ME3 as a more decorated bad guy, and not with: "Hey Shep, TIM here, found the Shadow Broker, wanna take him out for no reason at all (since we can get the mission before Liara tells Shepard about the Shadow Broker trying to sell him to the collectors?".

That wouldn't make any sense.

$10 says that the Shadow Broker DLC starts exactly like that; an email from TIM saying that Cerberus has found his/her/its location, and to use the information as you will (aka: go tell Liara, go on quest).

I heard some unused audio in You Tube, and if it's to be believed, that is how it starts, we'll just have to wait and see.
Oh, and about the $10 thing... YOUR ON.

[DMT-07]

Heloooooo, Moderators!



I know this is off topic, but how can I get word to Mr. Hudson (or his boss) that showing Jack Wall the door for ME3 is like George Lucas deciding he didn't want to work with John Williams for the score to a Star Wars film?



Thanks in advance.



("I'm Commander Shepard, and these have been some of the best film scores I've ever heard.")

[PWENER]

They fired Jack Wall!?



MADNESS, MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DarkSeraphym]

PWENER wrote...

BW knows best, but it's a DLC, so I don't expect a big twist or such. I do hope it's someone new and not some stupid rip-off character we've already seen or heard about. Hell, we may not even get to see him or fight him in the DLC. It's a DLC people, there may be people who import to ME3 without playing it, and meeting the Shadow Broker is a pretty big deal in my book. I think he escapes or something and we meet him in ME3 as one of the game's major enemies. That would be more linear and story friendly then importing to ME3 with the Shadow Broker alive and kicking... HELLO, his a major villain, he can't be allowed to live and mess up Shepard's mission in saving the galaxy, he works for the freaking Reapers, and what is the point of killing him now on DLC if I can kill him in ME3 as a more decorated bad guy, and not with: "Hey Shep, TIM here, found the Shadow Broker, wanna take him out for no reason at all (since we can get the mission before Liara tells Shepard about the Shadow Broker trying to sell him to the collectors?".

That wouldn't make any sense.

This is a possibility, but from my perspective I greatly hope not. I'm not sure I see how the Shadow Broker is really a major villain in the Mass Effect Universe. It's been a couple of months since I have read Redemption, but the Shadow Broker was only selling the body of Shepard to the Collectors because A. that is his business and B. in the fourth volume during his dialogue with Liara, I think I recall him mentioning that Shepard is nothing more than a corpse at that time. From this, I am assuming that means the Shadow Broker had no idea that Cerberus was initiating the Lazarus Cell in order to bring Shepard back. I do believe he mentions he was a little curious as to why the Collectors wanted it in the first place, but because it was a corpse thought he might as well make money on it..

Likewise, I wouldn't call him at all a major villain in the story of Mass Effect even for what happened to Feron. Feron was a double-agent and as we know from Mass Effect one, the Shadow Broker doesn't condone traitors (who does?) in his line of work.

Personally, I want the Shadow Broker problem dealt with in a long DLC or an expansion pack instead of Mass Effect 3. There are already enough problems we are likely going to have to sort out in Mass Effect 3 as is, on top of the Reaper threat, and I would prefer the game to flow as well as possible without giving the impression that it's cluttered and Shepard is trying to solve too many problems at one time. Likewise because I see him as more of a minor problem for Shepard's over all goal of stopping the Reapers, I see no reason why they shouldn't deal with him in the DLC. BioWare has stated many times that Mass Effect 3 is going to be different from the first two games because continuity is no longer an issue. It's the end of the trilogy, thus there are literally around a thousand variables they are projecting that will cause everyone's game to be different.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 08 août 2010 - 06:42 .

[ThisIsMadness91]

DMT-07 wrote...

Heloooooo, Moderators!

I know this is off topic, but how can I get word to Mr. Hudson (or his boss) that showing Jack Wall the door for ME3 is like George Lucas deciding he didn't want to work with John Williams for the score to a Star Wars film?

Thanks in advance.

("I'm Commander Shepard, and these have been some of the best film scores I've ever heard.")

Wait, what?!

[PWENER]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

PWENER wrote...

BW knows best, but it's a DLC, so I don't expect a big twist or such. I do hope it's someone new and not some stupid rip-off character we've already seen or heard about. Hell, we may not even get to see him or fight him in the DLC. It's a DLC people, there may be people who import to ME3 without playing it, and meeting the Shadow Broker is a pretty big deal in my book. I think he escapes or something and we meet him in ME3 as one of the game's major enemies. That would be more linear and story friendly then importing to ME3 with the Shadow Broker alive and kicking... HELLO, his a major villain, he can't be allowed to live and mess up Shepard's mission in saving the galaxy, he works for the freaking Reapers, and what is the point of killing him now on DLC if I can kill him in ME3 as a more decorated bad guy, and not with: "Hey Shep, TIM here, found the Shadow Broker, wanna take him out for no reason at all (since we can get the mission before Liara tells Shepard about the Shadow Broker trying to sell him to the collectors?".

That wouldn't make any sense.

This is a possibility, but from my perspective I greatly hope not. I'm not sure I see how the Shadow Broker is really a major villain in the Mass Effect Universe. It's been a couple of months since I have read Redemption, but the Shadow Broker was only selling the body of Shepard to the Collectors because A. that is his business and B. in the fourth volume during his dialogue with Liara, I think I recall him mentioning that Shepard is nothing more than a corpse at that time. From this, I am assuming that means the Shadow Broker had no idea that Cerberus was initiating the Lazarus Cell in order to bring Shepard back. I do believe he mentions he was a little curious as to why the Collectors wanted it in the first place, but because it was a corpse thought he might as well make money on it..

Likewise, I wouldn't call him at all a major villain in the story of Mass Effect even for what happened to Feron. Feron was a double-agent and as we know from Mass Effect one, the Shadow Broker doesn't condone traitors (who does?) in his line of work.

Personally, I want the Shadow Broker problem dealt with in a long DLC or an expansion pack instead of Mass Effect 3. There are already enough problems we are likely going to have to sort out in Mass Effect 3 as is, on top of the Reaper threat, and I would prefer the game to flow as well as possible without giving the impression that it's cluttered and Shepard is trying to solve too many problems at one time. Likewise because I see him as more of a minor problem for Shepard's over all goal of stopping the Reapers, I see no reason why they shouldn't deal with him in the DLC. BioWare has stated many times that Mass Effect 3 is going to be different from the first two games because continuity is no longer an issue. It's the end of the trilogy, thus there are literally around a thousand variables they are projecting that will cause everyone's game to be different.

It's ME, you can't never have too many problems.

[DarkSeraphym]

PWENER wrote...

DarkSeraphym wrote...

PWENER wrote...

BW knows best, but it's a DLC, so I don't expect a big twist or such. I do hope it's someone new and not some stupid rip-off character we've already seen or heard about. Hell, we may not even get to see him or fight him in the DLC. It's a DLC people, there may be people who import to ME3 without playing it, and meeting the Shadow Broker is a pretty big deal in my book. I think he escapes or something and we meet him in ME3 as one of the game's major enemies. That would be more linear and story friendly then importing to ME3 with the Shadow Broker alive and kicking... HELLO, his a major villain, he can't be allowed to live and mess up Shepard's mission in saving the galaxy, he works for the freaking Reapers, and what is the point of killing him now on DLC if I can kill him in ME3 as a more decorated bad guy, and not with: "Hey Shep, TIM here, found the Shadow Broker, wanna take him out for no reason at all (since we can get the mission before Liara tells Shepard about the Shadow Broker trying to sell him to the collectors?".

That wouldn't make any sense.

This is a possibility, but from my perspective I greatly hope not. I'm not sure I see how the Shadow Broker is really a major villain in the Mass Effect Universe. It's been a couple of months since I have read Redemption, but the Shadow Broker was only selling the body of Shepard to the Collectors because A. that is his business and B. in the fourth volume during his dialogue with Liara, I think I recall him mentioning that Shepard is nothing more than a corpse at that time. From this, I am assuming that means the Shadow Broker had no idea that Cerberus was initiating the Lazarus Cell in order to bring Shepard back. I do believe he mentions he was a little curious as to why the Collectors wanted it in the first place, but because it was a corpse thought he might as well make money on it..

Likewise, I wouldn't call him at all a major villain in the story of Mass Effect even for what happened to Feron. Feron was a double-agent and as we know from Mass Effect one, the Shadow Broker doesn't condone traitors (who does?) in his line of work.

Personally, I want the Shadow Broker problem dealt with in a long DLC or an expansion pack instead of Mass Effect 3. There are already enough problems we are likely going to have to sort out in Mass Effect 3 as is, on top of the Reaper threat, and I would prefer the game to flow as well as possible without giving the impression that it's cluttered and Shepard is trying to solve too many problems at one time. Likewise because I see him as more of a minor problem for Shepard's over all goal of stopping the Reapers, I see no reason why they shouldn't deal with him in the DLC. BioWare has stated many times that Mass Effect 3 is going to be different from the first two games because continuity is no longer an issue. It's the end of the trilogy, thus there are literally around a thousand variables they are projecting that will cause everyone's game to be different.

It's ME, you can't never have too many problems.

Sure you can. Shepard needs to be assembling an armada to try to fight back against the Reapers, that or developing some sort of weapon/deus ex machina that is going to solve this problem and the fun part of the game is that it is realistic enough that we have factions that have no real signs of getting along unless Shepard gets involved personally and likely ends up having to side with one of them over the other (Quarians/Geth, Salarians/Krogan, etc.). On the scale of this magnitude, I think dealing with a guy who makes some cash on information to the highest bidder is of a much smaller consequence to the bigger picture.

I also think that releasing a DLC like this where you can't deal with the Shadow Broker is THE worst possible thing BioWare could do given the amount of complaining as is with their DLC (God EA, making the Cerberus Network is probably the worse thing you could have done for this forum). As a paying customer, I don't want to pay for something that effectively just added an hour or two of gameplay to the game and I end up in the exact same position I would have been in if I hadn't played it at all. A DLC where I help Liara yet the Shadow Broker gets away before I can catch him would just make the DLC complaining on this forum worse. Either BioWare needs to resolve the problem now, or to do absolutely nothing and cancel this DLC entirely to put it into ME3 instead.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 08 août 2010 - 07:00 .

[PWENER]

Im Commander Shepard, and I approve.

[Mister Mida]

DMT-07 wrote...

Heloooooo, Moderators!

I know this is off topic, but how can I get word to Mr. Hudson (or his boss) that showing Jack Wall the door for ME3 is like George Lucas deciding he didn't want to work with John Williams for the score to a Star Wars film?

Thanks in advance.

("I'm Commander Shepard, and these have been some of the best film scores I've ever heard.")

What are you talking about? What is your source?

[Marcin K]

hmm only 1 day of weekend left so...maybe we'll hear tomorro? *doubts*

[PWENER]

Hopefully, college starts in 4 days for me, I wanna play it before I get swamped with assighments.

[Bravenu3]

Just look at the news for a few days: Julian Assange clearly is the Shadow Broker ;-D

[PWENER]

Riiiiiight.

[LPPrince]

The Collector Assault Rifle is The Shadow Broker.

[PWENER]

LPPrince wrote...

The Collector Assault Rifle is The Shadow Broker.

Of course, it all makes sense now!!!!

[Eagle94]

Normandy is The Shadow Broker.

[PWENER]

Eagle94 wrote...

Normandy is The Shadow Broker.

SR1 or SR2?

[Eagle94]

SR2

[GamerJ]

joker is the shadow broker X-P

[LPPrince]

TIM is controlled by The Reapers.



Oh wait, that has nothing to do with The Shadow Broker. Well, The Shadow Broker knew that, at least.

[Eagle94]

The shadow broker doesnt exist.

[GamerJ]

LPPrince wrote...

TIM is controlled by The Reapers.

Oh wait, that has nothing to do with The Shadow Broker. Well, The Shadow Broker knew that, at least.

yeah the illusive man is a verry wierd person i dont trust him to, but if he was controlled by the reapers why would he rebuild shepard and help sheperd kill  his own allieds (the collectors) he is more the type of person or robot/cyborg that needed shepard as a trophy and to use him getting the collector base, i just blow that base up becuse i dont trust the illusive man:lol: the illusive man also sended reports to kaiden/ashley on horizon that shepard worked with cerberus and so he hoped to ruin the friendship/relation ship with kaiden/ashley and a other thing he did is trapped u in the collector ship, and he also knew about the collector base all the time the sneaky son of b!tch
but if he work with the reapers why did he rebuild shepard the reapers would never rebuild shepard and bring him back to life i guess:P

Modifié par GamerJ, 08 août 2010 - 10:24 .

[LPPrince]

GamerJ wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

TIM is controlled by The Reapers.

Oh wait, that has nothing to do with The Shadow Broker. Well, The Shadow Broker knew that, at least.

yeah the illusive man is a verry wierd person i dont trust him to, but if he was controlled by the reapers why would he rebuild shepard and help sheperd kill  his own allieds (the collectors) he is more the type of person or robot/cyborg that needed shepard as a trophy and to use him getting the collector base, i just blow that base up becuse i dont trust the illusive man:lol: the illusive man also sended reports to kaiden/ashley on horizon that shepard worked with cerberus and so he hoped to ruin the friendship/relation ship with kaiden/ashley and a other thing he did is trapped u in the collector ship, and he also knew about the collector base all the time the sneaky son of b!tch
but if he work with the reapers why did he rebuild shepard the reapers would never rebuild shepard and bring him back to life i guess:P

The Reapers didn't expect Shepard to beat the Collectors. They just wanted Shepard back for their new Reaper.

So they brought him back and threw him into the Collector horde as much as they could. Through TIM.

THE EYES. ITS ALL IN THE EYES, MAN.

[IamLegion23]

Sounds cool,cant wait to play it,i just hope its longer than kasumi,i thought kasumi was a disappointment for me

[Gibb_Garrus]

It'd be awesome if ash (or kaiden) appears in this DLC, think it'll happen?