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Sounded awfully close to what they would say if they did something in the DLC, if you know what I mean. I dont wanna "spoil" anything.


Well, I am of the opinion that the entirety of the Liara/Shadow Broker/Shepard's corpse story arc has been greatly expanded, rewritten and revised and that consequently any dialogue that may have been recorded prior to the completion of the DLC would have been cut, and is trash. Additionally, from what I understand, those audio files detail BioWare's original intentions behind Liara's reasons as to why she would not join the squad in ME2, which is obviously a necessity to ensure that she survives to appear in ME3. However, I don't think it is wise to discuss those audio files hear, as some may wish to avoid learning of their content, like you said. :P

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Zaknaberrnon wrote...

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The Harmonizer wrote...

How the hell is Bioware gonna end this game in only 20-25 hours ? (the length of their games approx). This game needs an expansion, not ****loads of DLC that builds on a story that we allready explored, give us something new ! (here's hoping this DLC takes place after the final mission)


It does, as this would just make sense considering the backstory and current situation surrounding Liara in her transition from ME1 - ME2. Liara cannot join Shepard, unfortunately because she is effectively under contract to remain in her job on Ilium, plus she wants to use this position as a method to finally track down the Shadow Broker and take it (no idea whether its him/her?) down. Therefore, the logical progression would be that Liara finally contacts Shepard with a request for help after she hears of the success of the team's suicide mission. 

My top wish/hope for LoTSB is that Liara has some complete interactive dialogue, so that you can converse with her in the same way that you do all of the other main characters both during the mission(s) and also back on the Normandy. I was very disappointed that Bioware decided to go down the route of minimalist "press A to Talk" one-liners especially with Kasumi, OK she has some mostly relevant opinions that are up to date with the current situation in the story but other than that she was pretty bland once located on the Normandy. 

Another thing - if Liara does become a playable character i.e. joining Shepard's crew, where is there any space left on the new Normandy for her to have her own location?




2 things:

1) If the DLC uses the dialogues already in the game as Kasumi did.. Cerberus gave Shepard intel on the SB... if its post-SM then that doesn't make sense because wether you keep the base or destroy it.. Shepard makes it clear he's on his own so why would TIM give you the intel??

2)There's alot of room on the Normandy.. everyone says there isn't. Liara could stay in the medical bay with Dr. Chakwas again, or she could be in the Comm Room, she could even be in the Crews Quarters (give you a reason to go there other then to listen to the two crew members talk to each other), she could go hang out with Samara.. they're both Asari and I'm sure Liara would be interested in a Justicar... there is alot of room for Liara on the Normandy..

she could even stay in the Captains Cabin Posted Image

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If Liara happened to be another squad member for ME 2, then it may even be possible to use her for the final mission. That wouldn't seem right, since Bioware had stated even before the release of ME 2 of "The Dirty Dozen". That would certainly break the promise in using only 12 squad members - not 13. She should be an SM for ME 3, not ME 2. I'm pretty sure for Bioware that that is a definite.

However, IF Bioware miraculously was able to put in Liara (in which i wouldn't think so), it would be best to use her after the final mission. I mean, what would the point be if Liara was added into the final mission and you KNEW that (if you had no upgrades and no loyalty, except for Liara) only three of your SM's are going to survive (one of them being Liara)? That wouldn't make sense!

As much I would love to Liara in the captain's quarters, i think that would be difficult to believe....unless you loved her in ME 1....Posted Image

If not, then I would consider to put her in either the medical bay (w/Chakwas), the extra room (w/ the 2 cerberus crew members), the room w/Samara, or on the 4th deck opposite of Jack.


I highly dought Liara will join Shepard but I'm okay with that.. I was just saying the Captain's Cabin as a joke.. And yes... it wouldn't make sense. But if the DLC is post-SM then maybe 'cause theres no way to get her killed... but I mean after the SM whats the point your done the game... unless you still have a few side-missions. Or maybe if you were loyal to her and she joins after SM you'll get a surprise Posted Image (That is a joke).

Also maybe.. if she joins your squad.. she wont be among the 12 members you take on missions she'll just be on the Normandy... then when the Collector's attack the Normandy.. Liara would be taken too. Then even if you let your team die Liara would still be alive with Dr. Chakwas (cause she always survives) and then Liara could still be alive for ME3.

Now you might be thinking "But if you don't send someone to escort Dr. Chakwas she dies" yes... but if Liara is there, she can handle it. Again I'm just typing while these things pop in my head and theres a 99% chance that I am wrong.. but I am okay if Liara doesn't join Shep in ME2... as long as she's by my side in ME3

I'd rather have her in ME 3 - just because it only makes sense to do so.


just addin' to the piramid...:whistle::P


My bet is that this mission is all about how Liara gave your body to the Cerberus while she had to stay clear from 3the agents of the shadow broker, that way Bioware doesnt have to make any new stuff yet.....****ing great....damn you bioware just make some new stuff christ....Posted Image

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-collapses in a heap of pathetic anguish-


Lol... This thread is awesome :lol:

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My bet is that this mission is all about how Liara gave your body to the Cerberus while she had to stay clear from 3the agents of the shadow broker, that way Bioware doesnt have to make any new stuff yet.....****ing great....damn you bioware just make some new stuff christ....Posted Image


It has already been confirmed that this DLC will depict Shepard and Liara tracking down and confronting the Shadow Broker.

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Liara DLC release date plus Mass Effect 2 PS3 port (packaged with DLC download codes) announced tomorrow, I bet.

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EatChildren wrote...

Liara DLC release date plus Mass Effect 2 PS3 port (packaged with DLC download codes) announced tomorrow, I bet.

:blink:

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

EatChildren wrote...

Liara DLC release date plus Mass Effect 2 PS3 port (packaged with DLC download codes) announced tomorrow, I bet.

:blink:


Well, tomorrow is tuesday. The big EA (/bleah) conference and DA2 trailer coming up. Maybe they'll pop up an extra surprise with a release date :P

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thedistortedchild wrote...




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This would be epic...then I can finally show both Liara and also Miranda the benefits of a proper plush captain's room :devil::P, why oh why did Miranda pick the engine room, for her romance location, does she dig the vibrations from the engine core or something??

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JediHealerCosmin wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

EatChildren wrote...

Liara DLC release date plus Mass Effect 2 PS3 port (packaged with DLC download codes) announced tomorrow, I bet.

:blink:


Well, tomorrow is tuesday. The big EA (/bleah) conference and DA2 trailer coming up. Maybe they'll pop up an extra surprise with a release date :P


They should definatley port mass effect to ps3, it dosen't get the love it deserves on 360 (pitiful sales considering it's the best game of the year), but i've heard even ps3 fanboys say they are jealous of mass effectPosted Image

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JediHealerCosmin wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

EatChildren wrote...

Liara DLC release date plus Mass Effect 2 PS3 port (packaged with DLC download codes) announced tomorrow, I bet.

:blink:


Well, tomorrow is tuesday. The big EA (/bleah) conference and DA2 trailer coming up. Maybe they'll pop up an extra surprise with a release date :P

Oh yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm just... I don't think a PS3 port is anywhere near likely. No offense. Just saying.

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There's little to no chance of ME2 being ported to PS3. However, the announcement of the release date for LotSB is very likely to occur either today or tomorrow, I think.

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They should definatley port mass effect to ps3, it dosen't get the love it deserves on 360 (pitiful sales considering it's the best game of the year), but i've heard even ps3 fanboys say they are jealous of mass effectPosted Image


I'm a PS3 fanboy through and through. In fact, I only own one console, the PS3. The thing next to it has the mass effect faceplate and skins and is referred to as the "Mass Effect box" ;)

That said, if there's a Mass Effect release for PS3, something like the Mass Effect Saga (ME2 + ME1 with the ME2 (G)UI, I'd place an immediate preorder).

And situation update: I got home and am still refreshing this thread every few minutes. Not sure if I am going to able to sleep tonight. Ah well, making a new ME2 importable character in ME1, so at least I have something to keep me occupied...)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

There's little to no chance of ME2 being ported to PS3. However, the announcement of the release date for LotSB is very likely to occur either today or tomorrow, I think.


Spanish website Vandal reported the rumour, and a dudebro over at NeoGAF seems pretty damn confident it will be announced  this week and release later this year.

PS3 port of Mass Effect 2 with bundled in code to download the available DLC. Think like Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

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I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.

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Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


You dont want more people to have the pleasure of enjoying a very good game?

Please. Dont be a console warrior. Its an unattractive and unnecessary character trait.

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Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


Why not, with blu-ray discs they could do alot with it on the PS3, almost as good as the PC. Dont want to start a flame war/fanboy war here but PS3 is ahead of the xbox. And since I dont own either console, I am unbiased:wizard:. But I could see ME2 going to PS3, hell if it makes Bioware money go for it Bioware.

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BTW i know ps3 port ain't gonna happen, would just love to see it

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Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


Why not? IMO it'd be better than on Xbox because with the multi-layered blue-ray stuff you wouldnt have to switch discs....As far as Im concerned, it'd be a great thing if it went to PS3....That is unless, of course, you are one of those PC folks who detest the fact that it's even on Xbox as well.  I'd like to be optimistic and say that surely you arent that shallow. 

But seriously though, I'd welcome a PS3 adaptation of ME2, just so I didnt have to switch discs all the time lol.

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continue to dream... but Microsoft has a say in what is done with the ME trilogy.

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Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


Your why tali is dead in my game withh a final shot of her being dragged of by collectorsPosted Image

Yes im petty but so are you fanboy

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NICKjnp wrote...

continue to dream... but Microsoft has a say in what is done with the ME trilogy.


Believe me, I know it wont make it to PS3....Im just saying that due to Blueray tech, it'd be a great port and good just on the principle alone of not having to switch discs lol.

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Aradace wrote...

Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


Why not? IMO it'd be better than on Xbox because with the multi-layered blue-ray stuff you wouldnt have to switch discs....As far as Im concerned, it'd be a great thing if it went to PS3....That is unless, of course, you are one of those PC folks who detest the fact that it's even on Xbox as well.  I'd like to be optimistic and say that surely you arent that shallow. 

But seriously though, I'd welcome a PS3 adaptation of ME2, just so I didnt have to switch discs all the time lol.


If it went to PS3 then they'd have to make it n00b friendly for people that haven't played the other games, therefore it'd have to be n00b friendly on the PC and xbox, thus pissing people off even more.

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The Harmonizer wrote...

Zaknaberrnon wrote...

kyle924 wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

kyle924 wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

GuitarShredUK wrote...

The Harmonizer wrote...

How the hell is Bioware gonna end this game in only 20-25 hours ? (the length of their games approx). This game needs an expansion, not ****loads of DLC that builds on a story that we allready explored, give us something new ! (here's hoping this DLC takes place after the final mission)


It does, as this would just make sense considering the backstory and current situation surrounding Liara in her transition from ME1 - ME2. Liara cannot join Shepard, unfortunately because she is effectively under contract to remain in her job on Ilium, plus she wants to use this position as a method to finally track down the Shadow Broker and take it (no idea whether its him/her?) down. Therefore, the logical progression would be that Liara finally contacts Shepard with a request for help after she hears of the success of the team's suicide mission. 

My top wish/hope for LoTSB is that Liara has some complete interactive dialogue, so that you can converse with her in the same way that you do all of the other main characters both during the mission(s) and also back on the Normandy. I was very disappointed that Bioware decided to go down the route of minimalist "press A to Talk" one-liners especially with Kasumi, OK she has some mostly relevant opinions that are up to date with the current situation in the story but other than that she was pretty bland once located on the Normandy. 

Another thing - if Liara does become a playable character i.e. joining Shepard's crew, where is there any space left on the new Normandy for her to have her own location?




2 things:

1) If the DLC uses the dialogues already in the game as Kasumi did.. Cerberus gave Shepard intel on the SB... if its post-SM then that doesn't make sense because wether you keep the base or destroy it.. Shepard makes it clear he's on his own so why would TIM give you the intel??

2)There's alot of room on the Normandy.. everyone says there isn't. Liara could stay in the medical bay with Dr. Chakwas again, or she could be in the Comm Room, she could even be in the Crews Quarters (give you a reason to go there other then to listen to the two crew members talk to each other), she could go hang out with Samara.. they're both Asari and I'm sure Liara would be interested in a Justicar... there is alot of room for Liara on the Normandy..

she could even stay in the Captains Cabin Posted Image

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If Liara happened to be another squad member for ME 2, then it may even be possible to use her for the final mission. That wouldn't seem right, since Bioware had stated even before the release of ME 2 of "The Dirty Dozen". That would certainly break the promise in using only 12 squad members - not 13. She should be an SM for ME 3, not ME 2. I'm pretty sure for Bioware that that is a definite.

However, IF Bioware miraculously was able to put in Liara (in which i wouldn't think so), it would be best to use her after the final mission. I mean, what would the point be if Liara was added into the final mission and you KNEW that (if you had no upgrades and no loyalty, except for Liara) only three of your SM's are going to survive (one of them being Liara)? That wouldn't make sense!

As much I would love to Liara in the captain's quarters, i think that would be difficult to believe....unless you loved her in ME 1....Posted Image

If not, then I would consider to put her in either the medical bay (w/Chakwas), the extra room (w/ the 2 cerberus crew members), the room w/Samara, or on the 4th deck opposite of Jack.


I highly dought Liara will join Shepard but I'm okay with that.. I was just saying the Captain's Cabin as a joke.. And yes... it wouldn't make sense. But if the DLC is post-SM then maybe 'cause theres no way to get her killed... but I mean after the SM whats the point your done the game... unless you still have a few side-missions. Or maybe if you were loyal to her and she joins after SM you'll get a surprise Posted Image (That is a joke).

Also maybe.. if she joins your squad.. she wont be among the 12 members you take on missions she'll just be on the Normandy... then when the Collector's attack the Normandy.. Liara would be taken too. Then even if you let your team die Liara would still be alive with Dr. Chakwas (cause she always survives) and then Liara could still be alive for ME3.

Now you might be thinking "But if you don't send someone to escort Dr. Chakwas she dies" yes... but if Liara is there, she can handle it. Again I'm just typing while these things pop in my head and theres a 99% chance that I am wrong.. but I am okay if Liara doesn't join Shep in ME2... as long as she's by my side in ME3

I'd rather have her in ME 3 - just because it only makes sense to do so.


just addin' to the piramid...:whistle::P


My bet is that this mission is all about how Liara gave your body to the Cerberus while she had to stay clear from 3the agents of the shadow broker, that way Bioware doesnt have to make any new stuff yet.....****ing great....damn you bioware just make some new stuff christ....Posted Image


VERY unlikely but at the same time, it wouldnt suprise me.

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Chim3ra wrote...

I hope that Mass Effect never goes to PS3. No just no.


I have been a PC player all my life, but I still have to disagree with you. Porting the game to PS3 could make a lot of people happy, and the sales from it would be a plus for the economy as well.