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[charmingcharlie]

krimesh wrote...

You are assuming that everything is simple and that this DLC is exactly like the others. Seems reasonable. But obviously something IS different; why else should they not sell the DLC in 4 countries?

Why are you asking us we know even less than Bioware and all they will say is "technical" issues.  I personally believe this is down to the XBL 2gb limit that Microsoft have.  If they add localisations for all the other territories then this will push the DLC over the 2gb limit.

If my theory is correct then it would be a better situation to allow the 4 countries involved to use the english version of the DLC.  Yet for some reason they won't allow that, Bioware states it would break the flow of the game or something.  Hey here is a clue Bioware it isn't half as game breaking as not being able to access the DLC at all.

I don't swallow this "technical problems" rubbish for a second, it is a computer game they made, there is a facility there already for the DLC and if Bioware actually does care about it's customers they will find a way for all ME fans to play this DLC on their chosen platform

[Asheer_Khan]

Stop quoting that corporate bull**** people....<_<

I can ask "Why trere are no problems with France version or German version but mysteriously those "technical difficulties" appeared when comes to four mid Europe countries which are not from Yesturday considered by EA CEO as gaming pirate paradise...

****!!!! WHY every companies must do such crazy things right before weekend to easy get away from imminent flames????<_<

Even a 10 years old kid would understand that this "tech issues" will cause stirr among community so instead of dispatch someone to answer at our basic questions like potential regional IP lock on DLC download... but nooooo they just run away with hope that in monday there will be no case...<_<

And those people really want to run MMO... well good luck but MMO people will eat them without ketchup:devil:...

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:06 .

[Babli]

Naraxel wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Is there a union strike for voice acting going on in Polish, Czech and Hungarian?

The voice was never localized in Hungary. We had english voice and hungarian subtitle.

Same in Czech version which is played also in Slovakia.

[lulu333]

We want to know why is impossible play this DLC....but we don´t get answer yet and I doubt we ever get one.

Modifié par lulu333, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:09 .

[TMA LIVE]

Babli wrote...

Naraxel wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Is there a union strike for voice acting going on in Polish, Czech and Hungarian?

The voice was never localized in Hungary. We had english voice and hungarian subtitle.

Same in Czech version which is played also in Slovakia.

Hmm, the only thing I can think of is maybe it's because they did something different with the coding, because they might have added 3 squad players, and buffed adept. Maybe they don't have someone to translate the codes properly?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:10 .

[xxSW3trxx]

Naraxel wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Is there a union strike for voice acting going on in Polish, Czech and Hungarian?

The voice was never localized in Hungary. We had english voice and hungarian subtitle.

Czech version has also english voice and national (czech) subtitles...

edit: too late, Babli was faster

Modifié par xxSW3trxx, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:12 .

[Starscream723]

I'm pretty sure that the folks adopting the turian councillor attitude of "Ah yes, 'technical issues', we have dismissed those claims..." are wide of the mark.



I doubt there is any huge conspiracy. It's not likely that they've just decided "We don't like people from those regions, let's just not make the DLC and then blame it on technical issues".



As many of you are saying.. you WANT to give them your money for the DLC. And we all know how much EA loves taking people's money from them. I'm sure if they COULD, they WOULD. So, you know... have you considered that maybe there really are genuine issues that are stopping them from doing so?



The dev came on and flat out said that they've tried to find a workaround, but couldn't find one. I'm sorry for you guys who miss out, but they're missing out too... on your cash. The fine folks at EA may be a lot of things, but they're not dumb enough to miss out on an opportunity to get your money unless there's a real issue that's preventing it.



As for why the previous DLC worked, but this won't... who knows? We don't even know the nature of the DLC. Perhaps this one integrates with the main game in a more complex way... which sucks for you, but would be brilliant news for the rest of us. Even if this isn't the case, frankly it's the people who work with the coding for this game every day who are in the best position to know about such things... and those people have said "Sorry, but we can't get it to work."



I feel for you, and I know I'd be majorly upset if I were in your position. Bust out the "I used to be part of the community, but now I'm just Polish" banners, by all means. But, amidst all the venting, what do you actually want them to do about it? Find a workaround after all? Pretty sure they can't, I doubt they'd announce such bad news without having already explored all possible alternatives. So what then? Just scrap the whole thing? Don't let ANYONE have it? I'm sure none of you are selfish enough to want that.

[krimesh]

charmingcharlie wrote...

krimesh wrote...

You are assuming that everything is simple and that this DLC is exactly like the others. Seems reasonable. But obviously something IS different; why else should they not sell the DLC in 4 countries?

Why are you asking us we know even less than Bioware and all they will say is "technical" issues.  I personally believe this is down to the XBL 2gb limit that Microsoft have.  If they add localisations for all the other territories then this will push the DLC over the 2gb limit.

If my theory is correct then it would be a better situation to allow the 4 countries involved to use the english version of the DLC.  Yet for some reason they won't allow that, Bioware states it would break the flow of the game or something.  Hey here is a clue Bioware it isn't half as game breaking as not being able to access the DLC at all.

I don't swallow this "technical problems" rubbish for a second, it is a computer game they made, there is a facility there already for the DLC and if Bioware actually does care about it's customers they will find a way for all ME fans to play this DLC on their chosen platform

The question was rhetorical. Check my food comparison above. But think about it. They seem to have english audio with subtitles in those 4 countries. That cannot take up that much memory. And the "flow of the game" wouldn't be much interrupted by missing subtitles.

[Anakin1000]

So where is a problem? Subtitles? Fandom Groups can translate entire DLC within One Day. I can't believe BioWare Crew can't do it. Or it's to expensive compared to profits from sell ($)?

[Pepper4]

WHAT IS THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR IF NOT FOR THESE CASES?!

[Wabi wa Sabi]

I am seriously of the opinion that if EA/Bioware/whoever could do something about this, and fix it, then they would. Why the hell wouldn't they? Are some of you trying to tell me they WANT to lose customer's trust/respect? Customers in general? And, the biggest factor for them, of course, customer's money? I can't honestly agree with anyone who thinks this is 'poor show' on their behalf, because they have obviously exhausted every path and window of opportunity - they are the biggest losers in this situation. Sure, some people won't be able to get the DLC, but they can carry on living. EA lose money - the only reason they still exist.



I think, more often than not, people are more than happy to point the finger, without seriously thinking about it. EA don't gain ANYTHING as a result of this - so why the hell would they instigate it?

[nov_pl]

3mii wrote...



I am seriously of the opinion that if EA/Bioware/whoever could do something about this, and fix it, then they would. Why the hell wouldn't they? Are some of you trying to tell me they WANT to lose customer's trust/respect? Customers in general? And, the biggest factor for them, of course, customer's money? I can't honestly agree with anyone who thinks this is 'poor show' on their behalf, because they have obviously exhausted every path and window of opportunity - they are the biggest losers in this situation. Sure, some people won't be able to get the DLC, but they can carry on living. EA lose money - the only reason they still exist.

I think, more often than not, people are more than happy to point the finger, without seriously thinking about it. EA don't gain ANYTHING as a result of this - so why the hell would they instigate it?

So why don't they say what is the problem?
I'm 100% sure that modders could solve it.

[charmingcharlie]

krimesh wrote...

The question was rhetorical. Check my food comparison above. But think about it. They seem to have english audio with subtitles in those 4 countries. That cannot take up that much memory. And the "flow of the game" wouldn't be much interrupted by missing subtitles.

They clearly said they could do it but they won't, here is what they said :-

We didn't want to sacrifice the quality of the main game, and tried to work
around this in various ways. In the end, unfortunately, we were unable
to come to a solution which allowed us to release this content in these
territories and keep the same level of quality from the main game.

So in other words they found a way to release the content in these territories but because it didn't keep the "same level of quality as the main game" they aren't going to do it.  If you ask me I would say refusing to release the DLC to ME gamers not only reduces the quality of ME 2 but seriously degrades the quality of ME 3 for those affected.

[Naraxel]

Starscream723 wrote...
I feel for you, and I know I'd be majorly upset if I were in your position. Bust out the "I used to be part of the community, but now I'm just Polish" banners, by all means. But, amidst all the venting, what do you actually want them to do about it? Find a workaround after all? Pretty sure they can't, I doubt they'd announce such bad news without having already explored all possible alternatives. So what then? Just scrap the whole thing? Don't let ANYONE have it? I'm sure none of you are selfish enough to want that.

I spent a lot of money on BW stuffs (ME1-2+dlcs, DA+dlcs) and I'm angry now cause I cannot access to the most important dlc that connects ME2 and ME3.

I want the real issue why they can't sell for us.

[Starscream723]

I'm 100% sure that modders could solve it.

Yes, of course. The professional programmers who built the damn game in the first place have explored all possible alternatives, and come up with nothing. Of course they should ask modders for help.

Modifié par Starscream723, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:21 .

[krimesh]

nov_pl wrote...

3mii wrote...



I am seriously of the opinion that if EA/Bioware/whoever could do something about this, and fix it, then they would. Why the hell wouldn't they? Are some of you trying to tell me they WANT to lose customer's trust/respect? Customers in general? And, the biggest factor for them, of course, customer's money? I can't honestly agree with anyone who thinks this is 'poor show' on their behalf, because they have obviously exhausted every path and window of opportunity - they are the biggest losers in this situation. Sure, some people won't be able to get the DLC, but they can carry on living. EA lose money - the only reason they still exist.

I think, more often than not, people are more than happy to point the finger, without seriously thinking about it. EA don't gain ANYTHING as a result of this - so why the hell would they instigate it?

So why don't they say what is the problem?
I'm 100% sure that modders could solve it.

You know how few really good video-game corps there are? You'll need only one hand to count them all. Their knowhow is their wealth. Why give it away. Why support illegal modifications? Finally, it *might* take a while to explain, why it doesn't work. Who are they, teachers? You seem to think they owe you something.

[uzivatel]

Naraxel wrote...

krimesh wrote...
I understand that you are angry, but consider how complicated a video game is, and how complicated it is to integrate new code.

It wasn't complicated at the main game and every dlcs except this?

Bull****...

True story:

They did not release it, because they hate you. Yes, you, Naraxel. They hate you. Actually, they hate you so much they decided to throw away all the money they could get for the DLC in those four countries.
Now the whole eastern Europe does not get the DLC because of you.

Are you happy, Naraxel? Because I am not happy and I blame you... no, wait, not only do I blame you, I hate you, Naraxel.

Modifié par uzivatel, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:30 .

[lulu333]

But they owe us something...we buy the game and we expected FULL experience

[krimesh]

"So in other words they found a way to release the content in these territories but because it didn't keep the "same level of quality as the main game" they aren't going to do it."


Yap. I'd rather not see the reaction to "Hey guys, some of you will get a broken product." Besides it's just as much about the beauty of their work, as it is about their costumers.

Modifié par krimesh, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:35 .

[MrCloud]

They owe us, at least an explanation. What's the main difference between polish and english version of ME2? Oh yeah, it is a language. They're telling us the half of truth, I want to hear the second half. That's all.

[Starscream723]

lulu333 wrote...

But they owe us something...we buy the game and we expected FULL experience

Well, technically you already got the full experience of the game you paid for.

Unfortunately, you're not getting some additional, supplementary, bonus experience. But you're not paying for it either. It's not included in what you've already paid for. So no, they don't owe you it. Sorry. You have my sympathy, really.

[Naraxel]

uzivatel wrote...

Naraxel wrote...

krimesh wrote...
I understand that you are angry, but consider how complicated a video game is, and how complicated it is to integrate new code.

It wasn't complicated at the main game and every dlcs except this?

Bull****...

True story:

They did not release it, because they hate you. Yes, you, Naraxel. They hate you. Actually, they hate you so much they decided to throw away all the money they could get for the DLC in those four countries.
Now the whole eastern Europe does not get the DLC because of you.

Are you happy, Naraxel? Because I am not happy and I blame you... no, wait, not only do I blame you, I hate you, Naraxel.

Where do you live atm?

[HunMassiv]

Starscream723 wrote...

I'm 100% sure that modders could solve it.

Yes, of course. The professional programmers who built the damn game in the first place have explored all possible alternatives, and come up with nothing. Of course they should ask modders for help.

I remember the single core fix... That was "funny"... The minimum requirements for the game raised just because of this problem, which was solved by the community first, and after BioWare fixed it in the first patch too. Now the patched version of the game has the same minimum reqs, as the ME1 does. This problem seemed to be an easily solvable thing for the first time too, I think in this case these "technical reasons", which prevents us buying and playing the DLC sounds more easily solvable.

[charmingcharlie]

krimesh wrote...

Yap. I'd rather not see the reaction to "Hey guys, some of you will get a broken product." Besides it's just as much about the beauty of their work, as it is about their costumers.

I am sorry could you point to the "beauty of their work" when they are excluding a massive slice of ME fans from this content because they cannot integrate this DLC into their own game.  I don't know call me old fashioned but making a product where a lot of your customers are now excluded because Bioware themselves cannot find away to add DLC they have created doesn't come across as "beautiful piece of work".

RIght at this moment I take Bioware's "quality standards" with a massive truck load of salt.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Starscream! I haven't seen you in a while, not since the whole BioWare Bazaar incident.



You look well for dead, should've known the void couldn't hold you.