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[Butters]

Just wanted to mention that it seems like no one one the "Bioware is Evil" side has come up with a retort to the fact that it makes no financial sense for Bioware to not go through every length imaginable to fix this, so that they can get more money out of your pockets. Now, with that said, I think the DLC will be awesome, and i hope that Liara is playable. Not to mention that new Assault Rifle looks completely badass. I also wonder what powers Liara will come with. I'm hoping for Singularity and Warp, and maybe Stasis as a bonus power? That would make my adept very, very happy.

EDIT: I also want to mention that i do believe that Bioware should at least give a full statement adressing the cause of the problem.

Modifié par Butters, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:20 .

[amp1236]

Ohhhh Liara, my little blue muffin! How do i Love thee? Let me count the ways...

[-Skorpious-]

Butters wrote...

Just wanted to mention that it seems like no one one the "Bioware is Evil" side has come up with a retort to the fact that it makes no financial sense for Bioware to not go through every length imaginable to fix this, so that they can get more money out of your pockets. Now, with that said, I think the DLC will be awesome, and i hope that Liara is playable. Not to mention that new Assault Rifle looks completely badass. I also wonder what powers Liara will come with. I'm hoping for Singularity and Warp, and maybe Stasis as a bonus power? That would make my adept very, very happy.

The new assualt rifle isn't part of LotS. 
kotaku.com/5595589/new-mass-effect-2-weapons-pack-will-precede-broker
I also noticed that Bioware is hiding a significant spoiler from us; one they refuse to let anyone know until the DLC ships. My guess is that Liara joins Shepard's crew.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:21 .

[Max Knight]

Mateori wrote...

it's a bullsh..t not the answer.
Shame...
Forgive my language but im.... just sad and disappointed that's all.

Nothing to forgive there budy i woul use somethinf more colorful bud my english vocabulary of swears and insults is rated limited
i meam thy are 2 f*****g game companies with god how how much of an income sou what is so bloody f*****g hard to translate this DLC when the could do it for other the did it for one DA:O DLC too the one about Leliana

[charmingcharlie]

krimesh wrote...

First, everyone who is upset enough about this to write a comment in this forum, is upset because Bioware did their job. If they hadn't he or she wouldn't care. So YES Bioware are good at what they are doing. We are on page 64.
Second, if you don't want to be moaning than just don't.
Third, and this is not the first time this is said here, what makes you think that you have enough insight to determine whether Bioware found the best possible, practical solution?
This was a rhetorical question.

I think it is more accurate to say they "WERE" doing a good job, now they are cutting out 4 territories and alienating thousands of fans and paying customers so it is beyond the pail to say they are "STILL" doing a good job.

As for people "moaning" I am sure Bioware would be very happy if we just all shut up and forgot about these ME fans that are now going to be cut out of the DLC in fact I am willing to bet they absolutely love the idea of us shutting our mouths.

As for your final point they created the damn game, now are you trying to tell me they created this game in such a way they can't fix flaws in the actual game ?  I would say not allowing these territories to access this DLC is a pretty big flaw in the game that needs rectifying.  The current solution Bioware have come up with which is "tough luck to those that bought the game in these territories" is unacceptable.

[Wabi wa Sabi]

charmingcharlie wrote...

3mii wrote...
Sorry if I come across a little angry, or text-wall a lot, it's just I get really pissed off when
people are so quick to sing Bioware's faults when all they exist to do is provide us with
entertainment. And it's not as if they're not doing their job, because last time I checked, we're
all still here...

I think you might find customers that purchased the Polish, Hungary, Czech and Slovenia version
of Mass Effect 2  would disagree with you there that Bioware are "doing their job ".  I think
customers from those 4 territories are pretty much thinking right now that Bioware are certainly
NOT doing their job.

So, by your reasoning, a doctor who tries his/her hardest to save a patient, but fails, isn't doing
their job? That is such a warped view.


I'm not here to argue, it's just Bioware getting sh*t all over for trying their best doesn't make
any sense to me.

Modifié par 3mii, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:37 .

[Max Knight]

3mii wrote...

I'm so fed up of people b*tching about the one reason we all come to this damn forum. Bioware obviously are embarrassed by the fact they can't fix a problem in their own program - but some of you are actually managing to feel *victimised* over this? At least they *tried* to put it in these different languages. If you think it's so easy to just fix up some new code and they're away, hell I'd love to see you do it. If the developers of the software can't, all the good luck in the f*cking world to you.

Oh, and before anyone starts going on about "will we even be able to buy the english version?", all opinions on this are pretty redundant until we find out what actually happens, when it happens.

Sorry if I come across a little angry, or text-wall a lot, it's just I get really pissed off when people are so quick to sing Bioware's faults when all they exist to do is provide us with entertainment. And it's not as if they're not doing their job, because last time I checked, we're all still here...

you got point there alright so do flame fot this but could you pls explain why the can't reales thi DLC in my country beacause of blood F****ing subbtitles cause my copy of ME 2 is czech text and english voice for them or suck up their there are pirates so make all gamers life so miserable aditude so the could translate this. I mean if bunch of guy who do czech translations for games could do it why not a company with people PAID to do it thank you. they did this not aviable for estern europe bull**** fo Dragon Age too it is not that tragic in that case but it still ****** me of a big time. oh a pls try to ignore spelling erors my capability for writing in english is not ecatly best.

Modifié par Max Knight, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:41 .

[HunMassiv]

I have a fear that the technical problems, which prevents the four countries from buying and playing the DLC, is connected with the big secret about the DLC, which is intended to be a big surprise, therefore BioWare won't tell us anything about these technical problems, because they don't want to spoil the surprise. I hope this is not true, and we'll be given more information about these problems...

[Archie Maputo]

The only reason is that Leliana and Liara are racists and hate mid Europeans!!! That's the "issue"

[Max Knight]

HunMassiv wrote...

I have a fear that the technical problems, which prevents the four countries from buying and playing the DLC, is connected with the big secret about the DLC, which is intended to be a big surprise, therefore BioWare won't tell us anything about these technical problems, because they don't want to spoil the surprise. I hope this is not true, and we'll be given more information about these problems...

litle qestion how can i add theat nice truthfull baner of your cause i have not been this pissed of about i game for qite a looong time

[charmingcharlie]

3mii wrote...

So, by your reasoning, a doctor who tries his/her hardest to save a patient, but fails, isn't doing
their job? That is such a warped view.


I'm not here to argue, it's just Bioware getting sh*t all over for trying their best doesn't make
any sense to me.

So we have now had this situation compared to "world hunger" and now "life and death patient treatment", I wonder what the next comparison will be ?  You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ????  It seems to me that some on here will not accept any criticism of Bioware no matter what they do or how many fans they screw over.  I imagine it will stay that way till you find yourself at a disadvantage thanks to a crazy decision by Bioware.

Bioware is getting "**** over" because the course of action they have chosen to take is an absolutely ridiculous course of action.  They stated that the solutions they tried compromised the "quality of the main game" yet it could be argued not releasing the DLC at all compromises the quality of the main game in a far worse way than releasing a hack job to get the English DLC working with the main game.

In my view releasing a game that is sooooooo fundamentally different in just 4 territories to the rest of the planet was extremely sloppy work.  The people that have these tainted copies are now going to be totally left out of the Mass Effect universe and I believe Bioware deserves all the flak it gets for this.  It is a truly digusting situation that you would expect from a third rate developer not a developer that is supposed to be as high profile as Bioware.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:49 .

[Max Knight]

charmingcharlie wrote...

3mii wrote...

So, by your reasoning, a doctor who tries his/her hardest to save a patient, but fails, isn't doing
their job? That is such a warped view.


I'm not here to argue, it's just Bioware getting sh*t all over for trying their best doesn't make
any sense to me.

So we have now had this situation compared to "world hunger" and now "life and death patient treatment", I wonder what the next comparison will be ?  You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ????  It seems to me that some on here will not accept any criticism of Bioware no matter what they do or how many fans they screw over.  I imagine it will stay that way till you find yourself at a disadvantage thanks to a crazy decision by Bioware.

Bioware is getting "**** over" because the course of action they have chosen to take is an absolutely ridiculous course of action.  They stated that the solutions they tried compromised the "quality of the main game" yet it could be argued not releasing the DLC at all compromises the quality of the main game in a far worse way than releasing a hack job to get the English DLC working with the main game.

In my view releasing a game that is sooooooo fundamentally different in just 4 territories to the rest of the planet was extremely slopping work.  The people that have these tainted copies are now going to be totally left out of the Mass Effect universe and I believe Bioware deserves all the flak it gets for this.  It is a truly digusting situation that you would expect from a third rate developer not a developer that is supposed to be as high profile as Bioware.

hell yeah man i totaly agree with you on this one.

[EuroShepard]

Anyone knows when will be released this expansion?

greetings

[X106]

EuroShepard wrote...

Anyone knows when will be released this expansion?
greetings

I was wondering the same thing.  I also am wondering if this will be the last DLC for mass effect 2 since there is supposed to be some major announcment for 'mass effect' in the first quarter of next year.  I'm assuming the mass effect 3 announcement, the movie, or maybe a large expansion/dlc.

I can't wait for whatever it is, there isn't enough mass effect out there for me.

[Sparda Stonerule]

I find fault with the people complaining because they actually decided to tell you about the issue before the DLC comes out. If they really wanted to screw you over for whatever contrived reasons you have, then they would have waited until release day. Then they would wait as you people slowly realized you couldn't buy it. Now it's still possible a workaround could come, however I don't see what motivation they could have based on you people acting like this, besides the fact that they want to make money and keep customers happy. You are so quick to judge them and nail them to a wall about it. The funny thing is even if they do make a workaround you will all still be pissed off at them and never let them forget what happened. You people are all so quick to judge and so slow to forgive things. It's staggering that pro-ported fans are acting so rashly and violently against a company that is giving you free reign to complain in this thread.



Granted if the DLC was suddenly not available in the United States I would be upset and inquire as to why this was happening. I would also be ashamed of anyone in my country who outright bad mouths a company that they had apparently held in such high regard until something upsetting happens. Although admittedly I realize almost every person in my country would do that, but it would still be shameful.



Now to clarify I want to know exactly what the problem is, and I want to know if they are actually working on something. Because we all know they should be. I don't mind seeing discussion and concern but I find it appalling to come on a forum and see outright hatred occurring because that gets you less then nowhere. You have a voice, use it. However, being so vitriolic about it is actually weakening my concern for your situation. It's like walking up to the person who made your cake and yelling at them for hours about it because they made it and they screwed up. I saw that once and I realized it was an issue but the hatred was too far and I began to despise the customers position.



Then again this is all my opinion and I'm willing to take any heat for it.

[Wabi wa Sabi]

charmingcharlie wrote...

3mii wrote...

So, by your reasoning, a doctor who tries his/her hardest to save a patient, but fails, isn't doing
their job? That is such a warped view.


I'm not here to argue, it's just Bioware getting sh*t all over for trying their best doesn't make
any sense to me.

So we have now had this situation compared to "world hunger" and now "life and death patient treatment", I wonder what the next comparison will be ?  You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ????  It seems to me that some on here will not accept any criticism of Bioware no matter what they do or how many fans they screw over.  I imagine it will stay that way till you find yourself at a disadvantage thanks to a crazy decision by Bioware.

Bioware is getting "**** over" because the course of action they have chosen to take is an absolutely ridiculous course of action.  They stated that the solutions they tried compromised the "quality of the main game" yet it could be argued not releasing the DLC at all compromises the quality of the main game in a far worse way than releasing a hack job to get the English DLC working with the main game.

In my view releasing a game that is sooooooo fundamentally different in just 4 territories to the rest of the planet was extremely sloppy work.  The people that have these tainted copies are now going to be totally left out of the Mass Effect universe and I believe Bioware deserves all the flak it gets for this.  It is a truly digusting situation that you would expect from a third rate developer not a developer that is supposed to be as high profile as Bioware.

Firstly, I am ready and able to criticise Bioware - when I believe they deserve it. Yeah, it really does suck that the 4 countries mentioned are going to miss out on DLC, and if it were my country I would be completely gutted - as I've said before in this thread - but at the end of the day, as someone mentioned earlier, Bioware owes you nothing. You bought the game, it worked for you, you enjoyed it, done. You bought some DLC, it worked for you, you enjoyed it, done. Some extra DLC, which will in no way inhibit your playing ME games right now, is going to be released, which sadly won't be available for you - it's not the end of the world, though.

So these highly plausible comparisons to other scenarios are too 'drastic' for you? How about the PS3/Xbox 360 releases of the game Toy Story 3. The character Zurg is exclusive to the PS3 - so far there's no way to get him on the Xbox 360. I LOVE Toy Story, been brought up with it, and have been looking forward to the game/movie for some time. I don't have a PS3, I have an Xbox. I, straight away just because of the console I own, won't be able to play as a character who I may or may not have really liked from the films (as a matter of unimportant fact, I loved him), but do you see me slathering all over some forum b*tching and moaning about how it's unfair? Sure it's a little strange, but at the end of the day it's a decision someone has made - consiously, in this instance - and I just have to deal with it.

Bioware didn't even want to make this decision, they've been forced to because of a complication with their software. And to your bolded sentence - do you think they're proud of this? Do you honestly think they've enjoyed announcing something like this? It's ludicrous to think they've 'done this on purpose'.

[krimesh]

charmingcharlie wrote...

3mii wrote...

So, by your reasoning, a doctor who tries his/her hardest to save a patient, but fails, isn't doing
their job? That is such a warped view.


I'm not here to argue, it's just Bioware getting sh*t all over for trying their best doesn't make
any sense to me.

So we have now had this situation compared to "world hunger" and now "life and death patient treatment", I wonder what the next comparison will be ?  You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ????  It seems to me that some on here will not accept any criticism of Bioware no matter what they do or how many fans they screw over.  I imagine it will stay that way till you find yourself at a disadvantage thanks to a crazy decision by Bioware.

Bioware is getting "**** over" because the course of action they have chosen to take is an absolutely ridiculous course of action.  They stated that the solutions they tried compromised the "quality of the main game" yet it could be argued not releasing the DLC at all compromises the quality of the main game in a far worse way than releasing a hack job to get the English DLC working with the main game.

In my view releasing a game that is sooooooo fundamentally different in just 4 territories to the rest of the planet was extremely sloppy work.  The people that have these tainted copies are now going to be totally left out of the Mass Effect universe and I believe Bioware deserves all the flak it gets for this.  It is a truly digusting situation that you would expect from a third rate developer not a developer that is supposed to be as high profile as Bioware.

You know, people like you are the reason why my face is green. Why the HELL do you people think that you know enough to know Bioware messed up or not? Does it ever cross your mind that things are, whether from a pure engineering point of view or not, complicated enough, so that you cannot see where the problem is straight away?

[Wabi wa Sabi]

Sparda Stonerule wrote...

I find fault with the people complaining because they actually decided to tell you about the issue before the DLC comes out. If they really wanted to screw you over for whatever contrived reasons you have, then they would have waited until release day. Then they would wait as you people slowly realized you couldn't buy it. Now it's still possible a workaround could come, however I don't see what motivation they could have based on you people acting like this, besides the fact that they want to make money and keep customers happy. You are so quick to judge them and nail them to a wall about it. The funny thing is even if they do make a workaround you will all still be pissed off at them and never let them forget what happened. You people are all so quick to judge and so slow to forgive things. It's staggering that pro-ported fans are acting so rashly and violently against a company that is giving you free reign to complain in this thread.
 

And this, kids, is perfection. It's everything I've been trying to say, but walling instead.

[X106]

FenrirAndvari wrote...

I am glad it is being release. Please let Liara be a playable character.

I'm hoping that she wont join the party now because my character romanced her in the first mass effect and now she appears to be a cold hearted bitc*.  If the DLC doesn't come out soon I'll be romancing another character this time around and I don't need the added drama for mass effect 3 (since I can't imagine there would be an extra cat fight and ect in this game).

Modifié par X106, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:01 .

[nov_pl]

krimesh wrote...



You know, people like you are the reason why my face is green. Why the HELL do you people think that you know enough to know Bioware messed up or not? Does it ever cross your mind that things are, whether from a pure engineering point of view or not, complicated enough, so that you cannot see where the problem is straight away?

But BioWare created this problem FFS! If you don't want to blame the for not relising the DLC in 4 countries (IDK for what reason) then you have to blame them for relising broken game in those countries!
And why the hell do you think you know enough to defend BioWare?
The fact is: We have been screwed very badly. No matter what this is not right by BioWare!

[Max Knight]

3mii wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...

I find fault with the people complaining because they actually decided to tell you about the issue before the DLC comes out. If they really wanted to screw you over for whatever contrived reasons you have, then they would have waited until release day. Then they would wait as you people slowly realized you couldn't buy it. Now it's still possible a workaround could come, however I don't see what motivation they could have based on you people acting like this, besides the fact that they want to make money and keep customers happy. You are so quick to judge them and nail them to a wall about it. The funny thing is even if they do make a workaround you will all still be pissed off at them and never let them forget what happened. You people are all so quick to judge and so slow to forgive things. It's staggering that pro-ported fans are acting so rashly and violently against a company that is giving you free reign to complain in this thread.
 

And this, kids, is perfection. It's everything I've been trying to say, but walling instead.

i am not as you put it ****ing but some comapanies are im my experience craping on easter europe wchi i am unfortunatly in

[DOYOURLABS]

charmingcharlie wrote...

 You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ???? 

It might be a problem with the graphics engine, and bioware didn't make that. Just throwing that out there, and it's only a guess, since I have no insight into what goes on in Bioware. I don't think anyone here knows enough of what goes on inside bioware to judge this as them being lazy.

Let's put this in a business perspective: there is four regions that are WILLING , practically BEGGING, to buy DLC. Why would they just say "we could make more money by making dlc for these regions, but sitting on our asses drinking smoothies is more fun."? The only reason they could not make DLC for this region is because they can't.

[Max Knight]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

 You guys seem to be forgetting that BIoware CREATED this game and now they are telling us they cannot fix the flaws in something they created ???? 

It might be a problem with the graphics engine, and bioware didn't make that. Just throwing that out there, and it's only a guess, since I have no insight into what goes on in Bioware. I don't think anyone here knows enough of what goes on inside bioware to judge this as them being lazy.

Let's put this in a business perspective: there is four regions that are WILLING , practically BEGGING, to buy DLC. Why would they just say "we could make more money by making dlc for these regions, but sitting on our asses drinking smoothies is more fun."? The only reason they could not make DLC for this region is because they can't.

you realy belive that?

[LPPrince]

Jesus Christ, its like there's a bunch of little kids in here.

MATURITY. That's what Bioware will pay attention to. I feel bad for everyone who will miss out on the DLC, but you will NEVER get your voices heard with the whining and moaning going on in this thread.

They'll read mature arguments. Not, 'OMG, BIOWARE SUKS", "EA IS TEH DEVILS!", "YOU LOST A CUSTOMER!"

If you take your time and lay out exactly what your problem is, they might actually read what you have to say.

Even then, its already been explained that they did everything they could to make it work but they couldn't.

That's it. End of story.

They tried. They already gave you an explanation.

No one is entitled to DLC. Its OPTIONAL. You already paid for the full experience when you bought the main game. That WAS the full experience.

All the DLC's are extra content. Keyword is EXTRA. You don't need it. You don't have to have it. And you damn sure aren't entitled to it like some of you believe.

You were entitled to ME2 when you paid for it. Well you got it.

Seeing as no one paid for this DLC, no one is entitled to get it.

So please, make worthwhile arguments if you want your voices heard. Some of you in this thread have done so, but I'm afraid you've been drowned out by people posting in all caps and creating Anti-Bioware/Anti-EA pictures and videos.

Modifié par LPPrince, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:08 .

[Wabi wa Sabi]

nov_pl wrote...

krimesh wrote...



You know, people like you are the reason why my face is green. Why the HELL do you people think that you know enough to know Bioware messed up or not? Does it ever cross your mind that things are, whether from a pure engineering point of view or not, complicated enough, so that you cannot see where the problem is straight away?

But BioWare created this problem FFS! If you don't want to blame the for not relising the DLC in 4 countries (IDK for what reason) then you have to blame them for relising broken game in those countries!
And why the hell do you think you know enough to defend BioWare?
The fact is: We have been screwed very badly. No matter what this is not right by BioWare!

I can't believe people have signatures about 'Bioware deciding mid Europe doesn't deserve DLC' already. This is unbelievable. You're biting the hand that feeds you, don't be suprised if it smacks you in the future.