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No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.

And for those badgering Bioware for more info now now now now now, they have a lot of stuff they're doing right now. I'm pretty sure they're not getting kicks out of withholding information. Be patient - then they might actually want to answer you.


But I'm not complainig that the DLC that's going to be relised on 2015 isn't compatibile with my Mass Effect 2.
The DLC is relesed about 8 months after relese of game and it's yet not working?

I know they are pretty buisy but can't they give us one message with explenation? It's not that much to do for us?

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When you can express your feelings without cussing and without having a signature such as yours, maybe you will get your explanation.


Uyeah, how am I soppose to react when everything they've said is "the DLC wont work for you"?
If they'd resoneably justyfy it - i don't have problem then.


Here's what you could do-

"Well Bioware, I'm pretty miffed that I won't be getting this DLC, but if I may ask you for one thing(besides the DLC, of course), I'd like to know the specifics of what is stopping the DLC from being sold in my country. Is it voice actors/actresses? Glitches and bugs? Please specify, as I feel it would clear a lot of hateful remarks and actions being shown on the boards. Thank you for your time."

^Is that so hard? I'm sure they'd much rather read that then, "OMG, U SUK! INSERT EXPLETIVE HERE! RAWR!"

Why did you assumed that I havn't done this?
I've sent 3 masseges to Chris Priestly and  Michael Gamble and they didn't answer.
I did this in polite way, I'm not a red neck, I know how to speak politely.


Then why aren't you speaking that way here?

Why do you have a signature that implies something completely incorrect about Bioware/EA?

Jeez, I've sent messages to Chris about needing more mods on the forums. I've spoken to other mods about it, and they universally and unanimously agree we need more.

I've sent multiple messages to Chris about it, but I get no response. That doesn't mean he doesn't care. There are an infinite amount of reasons why he didn't respond.

You shouldn't assume the worst.

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3mii wrote...

No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.


So you are saying we should buy a new Mass Effect 2, which is compatible with the DLCs. Because if I have Win 95 and I have a game which runs only on XP, I have to buy an XP, right?

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HunMassiv wrote...

3mii wrote...

No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.


So you are saying we should buy a new Mass Effect 2, which is compatible with the DLCs. Because if I have Win 95 and I have a game which runs only on XP, I have to buy an XP, right?


It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:

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Then why aren't you speaking that way here?

Why do you have a signature that implies something completely incorrect about Bioware/EA?

Jeez, I've sent messages to Chris about needing more mods on the forums. I've spoken to other mods about it, and they universally and unanimously agree we need more.

I've sent multiple messages to Chris about it, but I get no response. That doesn't mean he doesn't care. There are an infinite amount of reasons why he didn't respond.

You shouldn't assume the worst.

Because that's how i feel!
I can change signature for one that says "until EA decidet that we won't get new DLC" but that doesn't change anything.
I don't want for you to get me wrong, I'm not saying that this is conspiracy, I don't wan't to sound like I think that Bioware turned their back on us, I only want to show how bad is what Bioware did, or, more likely, how bad is HOW Bioware did this.

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3mii wrote...

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3mii wrote...

No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.


So you are saying we should buy a new Mass Effect 2, which is compatible with the DLCs. Because if I have Win 95 and I have a game which runs only on XP, I have to buy an XP, right?


It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:


I don't think BioWare owes me anything, but if I have to buy another copy of ME2 to play with new DLC in a legal way, that's clearly unfair.

Modifié par HunMassiv, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:43 .


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It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:


They owe me the game that is 100% efficent, kos that's what i thought i've bought.

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I wonder how many messages Chis Priestly is getting per hour. Besides he might not know what the problem is exactly so he would have to get some one else to answer. And it's a weekend.

You people seem to have decided to insult Bioware a bit, because you are upset and not at all patient. That won't help, you know?

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HunMassiv wrote...

3mii wrote...

HunMassiv wrote...

3mii wrote...

No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.


So you are saying we should buy a new Mass Effect 2, which is compatible with the DLCs. Because if I have Win 95 and I have a game which runs only on XP, I have to buy an XP, right?


It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:


I don't think BioWare owes me anything, but if I have to buy another copy of ME2 to play with new DLC in a legal way, that's clearly unfair.


How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?

Modifié par 3mii, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:45 .


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nov_pl wrote...

3mii wrote...



It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:


They owe me the game that is 100% efficent, kos that's what i thought i've bought.


And it is. You put it in your Xbox/PC/whatever your console, and it works. They sold you a 100% efficient game. It does exactly what they said it would.

DLC is an entirely different situation - it's brand new software created to specifically integrate with previously-existing software. Not something that's easily created, I would imagine. And something went wrong with this particular DLC. Surely not 'perfect Bioware'? They're are just humans, too.

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How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Wrong wrong wrong.
It's part of Mass Effect francheise, and the basic game should ensure us acces to all parts of it.

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3mii wrote...

HunMassiv wrote...

3mii wrote...

HunMassiv wrote...

3mii wrote...

No. This happens all the time. Windows have released games that, if you're still running Windows 95, won't run. Windows is most definitely not broken, it's just not compatible. Something has stopped the two working.


So you are saying we should buy a new Mass Effect 2, which is compatible with the DLCs. Because if I have Win 95 and I have a game which runs only on XP, I have to buy an XP, right?


It's one option - but to go down that route of 'Bioware should supply me with a new "unbroken" copy', 'why should they? they owe you nothing' is horribly off-topic and people have probably been banned on this forum for less. :ph34r:


I don't think BioWare owes me anything, but if I have to buy another copy of ME2 to play with new DLC in a legal way, that's clearly unfair.


How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Well some people having access to content when others don't is the very definition of unfair. But like I said in my post at the bottom of the last page complaining in these forums is not going to make them respond nor will it magically fix the technical issues they have. All in all this discussion is endless tunnel going nowhere. 

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3mii wrote...



How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Wrong wrong wrong.
It's part of Mass Effect francheise, and the basic game should ensure us acces to all parts of it.



Maybe it should. Maybe not. Fact is, it doesn't.

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And it is. You put it in your Xbox/PC/whatever your console, and it works. They sold you a 100% efficient game. It does exactly what they said it would.

DLC is an entirely different situation - it's brand new software created to specifically integrate with previously-existing software. Not something that's easily created, I would imagine. And something went wrong with this particular DLC. Surely not 'perfect Bioware'? They're are just humans, too.

So why in the world it won't work with my version of software wich suppose to be like any other previously-existing software?
Why did the rest of the world got more (MOAR) for the sime priiiiiiiiiiize?

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3mii wrote...

How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Well some people having access to content when others don't is the very definition of unfair. But like I said in my post at the bottom of the last page complaining in these forums is not going to make them respond nor will it magically fix the technical issues they have. All in all this discussion is endless tunnel going nowhere. 


Sure, it's unfair if it's intentional, but surely to deny the entire world DLC just because it doesn't work in a few countries? That would be worse. Maybe at a later date they'll release a US/UK/English version into the countries - maybe the error is actually unfixable. I agree that until better answers are provided, all of this is pretty much meaningless - I just can't stand people talking down a company that, all in all, have not actually done anything wrong, in my eyes.

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nov_pl wrote...

3mii wrote...



How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Wrong wrong wrong.
It's part of Mass Effect francheise, and the basic game should ensure us acces to all parts of it.



Maybe it should. Maybe not. Fact is, it doesn't.


So why does it work with your version and not with mine? Why my game is worse than yours?

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3mii wrote...



And it is. You put it in your Xbox/PC/whatever your console, and it works. They sold you a 100% efficient game. It does exactly what they said it would.

DLC is an entirely different situation - it's brand new software created to specifically integrate with previously-existing software. Not something that's easily created, I would imagine. And something went wrong with this particular DLC. Surely not 'perfect Bioware'? They're are just humans, too.

1. So why in the world it won't work with my version of software wich suppose to be like any other previously-existing software?

2. Why did the rest of the world got more (MOAR) for the sime priiiiiiiiiiize?


1. Because, as is painfully obvious, your software is most probably different from others. Not because they hate you though, don't worry! Simply because there was obviously a need for a difference. I'm sure Bioware didn't think damning themselves to error'd DLC in the future would be a good idea.

2. I... I can't even reply to that. :mellow:

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nov_pl wrote...

 Why my game is worse than yours?


I'll make it easy.

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3mii wrote...

raptor113 wrote...

3mii wrote...

How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Well some people having access to content when others don't is the very definition of unfair. But like I said in my post at the bottom of the last page complaining in these forums is not going to make them respond nor will it magically fix the technical issues they have. All in all this discussion is endless tunnel going nowhere. 


Sure, it's unfair if it's intentional, but surely to deny the entire world DLC just because it doesn't work in a few countries? That would be worse. Maybe at a later date they'll release a US/UK/English version into the countries - maybe the error is actually unfixable. I agree that until better answers are provided, all of this is pretty much meaningless - I just can't stand people talking down a company that, all in all, have not actually done anything wrong, in my eyes.

It is unfair but people need to realize that unfairness entitles them to nothing. I'm sure everyones been told that life isn't fair. Bioware loves there fans and I'm sure they hated not being able to release it in those regions. People would be complaining just as much if they were releasing a partial version of the dlc instead that circumvented the technical issues.

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Fancinating, we finally get to see what all this Shadow Broker buisness is about. Remember hearing Shepard, Garrus and Dr. Chloe talk fluently of it and thinking "WTF they on about?"



Mind you this game is draining my money.

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nov_pl wrote...

krimesh wrote...

nov_pl wrote...

3mii wrote...



How will it be unfair? As someone stated earlier, it is EXTRA CONTENT. Bioware have never said that anything in any of the DLC is needed for ME3. This content is there for if someone wants to take their experience further than what they've already given you in the game. If ME2 means so much to you that you would go out and get a new copy just to experience the DLC, then that's your prerogative - personally I'd get on with life quite happily not feeling too 'hard-done-by', and stick with my original copy. They've said that they tried their hardest to resolve the issue, and that would be good enough for me - what have they possibly got to gain by lying?


Wrong wrong wrong.
It's part of Mass Effect francheise, and the basic game should ensure us acces to all parts of it.



Maybe it should. Maybe not. Fact is, it doesn't.


So why does it work with your version and not with mine? Why my game is worse than yours?


Look, if you bought ME2 you are entitled to play the content, which is on the discs inside the box. Everything else are additional products, which you have to buy separately. When you buy ME2 it says nowhere that you will be able to buy all future DLCs.  Its not fair, but nothing ever is.

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3mii wrote...


1. Because, as is painfully obvious, your software is most probably different from others. Not because they hate you though, don't worry! Simply because there was obviously a need for a difference. I'm sure Bioware didn't think damning themselves to error'd DLC in the future would be a good idea.

2. I... I can't even reply to that. :mellow:


And that's the point.
My soft is different, it's not working as it should (as it works it the rest of cases) that means it's... damaged.
Listen, I'm not being hostile to BW, I realy love that company, but now I feel that BW is unfair to us...
I hope that anyone will finaly comment on that. Tell us what's wrong, maybe try to find solution.
But now I feel... confused.

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Look, if you bought ME2 you are entitled to play the content, which is on the discs inside the box. Everything else are additional products, which you have to buy separately. When you buy ME2 it says nowhere that you will be able to buy all future DLCs.  Its not fair, but nothing ever is.


Now you just being rethorical.

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3mii wrote...

nov_pl wrote...

 Why my game is worse than yours?


I'll make it easy.

Wow! I didn't know you could do that.  Not you personnally, but that you could search that way on Google.
Thanks for that!

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nov_pl wrote...

3mii wrote...


1. Because, as is painfully obvious, your software is most probably different from others. Not because they hate you though, don't worry! Simply because there was obviously a need for a difference. I'm sure Bioware didn't think damning themselves to error'd DLC in the future would be a good idea.

2. I... I can't even reply to that. :mellow:


And that's the point.
My soft is different, it's not working as it should (as it works it the rest of cases) that means it's... damaged.
Listen, I'm not being hostile to BW, I realy love that company, but now I feel that BW is unfair to us...
I hope that anyone will finaly comment on that. Tell us what's wrong, maybe try to find solution.
But now I feel... confused.


Thats fine. So lets just wait for an answer by Bioware. In peace.