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#1751
JaegerBane

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smykulfc wrote...
They lose not only money, they lose more important thing - the customer.
I won’t buy anything anymore from them, (EA Poland, because for me they
are responsible for this mess), and will be extremely happy when they
become bankrupt!


The loss of customers is self-evident. I would assume that they'd thought through this and, (at this current time), have decided to just put it on the back burner. I'm sure there's more to this than what has been mentioned so far - another potential option would have been to just delay the whole release of the DLC for *everyone* until they'd figured it out - in that case, they'd p1ss off a lot more people.

But what does it mean excatly?! What they mean by "same level of quality"? It can by anything and everything. All the speculation about localization as the main problem are only our theories. Huge group of players from those 4 countries played the game in english, so our native languages have little to do with it!

But all the time i stress the bigger problem! I want to know HOW MANY DLC WONT BE AVAILABLE FOR US BECAUSE OF "TECHNICAL ISSUES". How many plot elements we will miss because of this? If they fear that "our game experience wont be the same", then while doing such things as this, the ME 3 experience will be fu**ed up and this is much bigger concern!

Thanks BIO and EA...thanks...


Indeed, I think it would calm a lot of people down if the reasons were given in a lot more detail - but I wouldn't hold your breath. Bioware have what appears to be a strict policy of giving out as little info on problems as they can - sensible, since by doing this you don't have to do much backtracking - but it can be a bit aggravating for the customer.

When Dragon Age Awakening got released, we had the whole notorious saga about not being able to use DLC gear in the expansion, due to vague issues of 'we didn't want to compromise the expansion so, we spent more time on it than working out how to import the gear'. No real explanation as to the stuff didn't import. 4 hours later, some modder figured it out and posted the info - along with DLC fixes to import all the gear - online. Bioware ended up with egg on their faces, and that was just because they'd mentioned just some vague explanations. Hence, I can understand why they're being cagey.

I wouldn't be surprised if this had something to do with the 360 Marketplace, MS's 'quality levels' and all.

This way or another, i WILL play all the DLC, if they force me to go pirate, than i will.


I would hope they'd taken this into consideration. Refusing availability you can get away with on consoles, but on PCs, it's often much better to do everything possible to get a product out there to the customers - otherwise, they'll get from somewhere else.

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Weell in worst cas scenario i will order a new game hopfuly CE too on amazon. and be pissed of.

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Falcon084

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Will this come out on disc as an expantion?

Modifié par Falcon084, 25 juillet 2010 - 09:43 .


#1754
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there probably will be some kind of edition with everything, just like Fallout, i think

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smykulfc

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After the first wave on anger, I tried to think about the question “why”, why people from 4 countries won’t be able to play in the new DLC. And I figured out two options:

1. EA doesn’t want to translate those DLC because of financial implications (polish version was dubbed while others – Slovak, Hungarian and Czech subtitled).



2. EA has done something with the code game (in order to make dubbed version and subtitled for mid-European countries) and new DLC will interfere with game engine…?



Well, I wrote this, but I’m not sure if I believe in what I have written… Both points are unbelievable for me… I really would like to hear from BIO the official statement…



Oh there is a third possibility... EA thinks that everyone played the game in their national language, and they don't want us to play in English now as this is according to EA "sacrificing the quality of the main game" :|

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Marcin K

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so? the BW still doesn't even bother to TALK TO US

tho i say RIOT MOAR MY FELLOW EUROPEANS!!!!

RIOT TILL WE GET SENSIBLE RESPONSE AND WORKING LOSB DLC!!!!!!!!!!!

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Stop ignore us Bioware

#1758
smykulfc

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i think they will be more than surprised when they see this topic and more than 70 pages of discussion... and probably even more shocked when they realize about what this 70 pages are. :)

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This just bloody reminds me of the 'Epic Bazaar' failure... except this time, instead of lousy 'souvenirs', we're being deprived of the actual piece of game. (What? Don't tell me that those DLCs aren't the part of Mass Effect...) Shame on you, BioWare....



... Oh, and by the way I bet that in less than a week after the release of the DLC there will be already 'compatible' version on torrents...

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Eagle94

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Or maybe they working on fix this problem too hard and they cant answer us :-)

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In my honest opinion Polish version is so horridly done it hurts my ears. Changing the language was the very first thing I've done after installing the game. I hope this DLC can work properly with modified full ENG language version. Hopefully...

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I think lets wail until the end of the weekend.....we'll probobly have more info on Monday

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Eagle94

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If i have original version it will be free when i download the english version of the game via EA download manager?

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Asheer_Khan

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I am pretty sure that EU Arbitrary Court would be very happy to "relieve" EA Poland from pretty nice amount of moneys for unfair treatment of EU Members...



As far as i known for example Germans dubbed ME 2 as well (as they 100% dubbed Jade Empire) but strangely there are NO "technical issues" when come to German version...



it's obvious for me now that for EA all those four EU Members affected by this [airquote] technical issues[/airquote] are second class customers...


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Asheer_Khan

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Eagle94 wrote...

Or maybe they working on fix this problem too hard and they cant answer us :-)


And turtles have wings and can fly to the moon:alien:

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This DLC will make it or break it as far as I'm concerned for any future story dlc that bridges the gap between ME2 and ME3.

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I think we just need to wait. because a few days ago that news article was removed (maybe thats a good sign).



Just be patient and wait for an official statement from Bioware.

I don't think creating 100 more pages about this will change anything. They are probably working on it as we speak?

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smykulfc

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Asheer_Khan wrote...

I am pretty sure that EU Arbitrary Court would be very happy to "relieve" EA Poland from pretty nice amount of moneys for unfair treatment of EU Members...

As far as i known for example Germans dubbed ME 2 as well (as they 100% dubbed Jade Empire) but strangely there are NO "technical issues" when come to German version...

it's obvious for me now that for EA all those four EU Members affected by this [airquote] technical issues[/airquote] are second class customers...


But first somebody has to appeal to the Arbitrary Court :)

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Marcin K

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we should make riot posters and post em across Edmonton so maybe then BW will hear us....

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smykulfc wrote...

2. EA has done something with the code game (in order to make dubbed version and subtitled for mid-European countries) and new DLC will interfere with game engine…?
 

If this is true, then BioWare should release patch to fix our version of the game.

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Trackah123 wrote...

I think we just need to wait. because a few days ago that news article was removed (maybe thats a good sign).


No.
It's still on the site - just turn language to polish.
http://eu.masseffect.../news/?id=72205

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Asheer_Khan

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Eagle94 wrote...

If i have original version it will be free when i download the english version of the game via EA download manager?


There is no original English version and non original English version (aka internationalized in case of PC users)... both versions are English since i was able after tweaking Ini and sku files install not even latest DLC but official Bioware patches what should be plain impossible if PL version won't have CORE English files...

SO AT WHAT CRAZY GAME  you play whit us EA????????

#1773
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Can you recruit Liara in this, because there are still two classified slots left in the squad, in the mass effect universe page.

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Asheer_Khan wrote...

I am pretty sure that EU Arbitrary Court would be very happy to "relieve" EA Poland from pretty nice amount of moneys for unfair treatment of EU Members...


That:s probably worth looking into, then.  Seriously, they should not release a game or dlc, unless all players are able to have access to it.  Epic Bizarre, came and went, and the lesson is still not learned.

The saddest thing is, Liara fans have been waiting for months to see how Bw was going to handle the SB plotline.  THe fact that many fans can:t access the game because they are from certain countries is maddening.  I wish they would consider this before releasing the dlc.

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FatherNestor

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Farkingrouse wrote...

Can you recruit Liara in this, because there are still two classified slots left in the squad, in the mass effect universe page.


Next time I suggest you look more careful at this and ask yourself a question: 'Wait, why I can't see page related to Garrus & Legion?'