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[Johnny Shepard]

Myself I think he fleed to protect his sister.

Anyway, what was one man going to do against the Blight? Did anyone stay in Lothering and fight to their death? If Hawke had not fleed then he would be dead because Lothering was destroyed by the Darkspawn. Hes just a man who will become great.

[fchopin]

Ravenwoud wrote...

well, the answer is simple.

we get to see WHY he becomes so important as soon we play the game ^^

this...

[HighlandBerserkr]

Stupidest post EVER! you will find out why in the game your choices are what make Hawke the man he will become for cryin out loud

[nuclearpengu1nn]

filetemo wrote...

Why does a man who fleed from the blight DESERVE to become the most influent being on the world?
Why does a man who didn't participate in destroying the evil power who could destroy the world have a place in history higher than those who fought bravely?
Why does hawke get the glory when my warden fades silently in history books when he did no good and fleed?
Why does a man who did NOTHING to fight the archdemon have the right to shape thedas?
How I'm going to get involved with the story of a man's rise to his own power when others are doing the epic tasks at the same time?
How can I care about a man who seeks power for himself when I just took part in the story of a hero who saved the world?

Its all in the Beard

[HighlandBerserkr]

And no one said its the goal of Hawke to seek out power, he just ends up being a very important man, just like in almost ALL other Rpg's small town boy becomes hero, can't wait fot this game!

[SpiderFan1217]

GreyWarden36 wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Why does a man who fleed from the blight DESERVE to become the most influent being on the world?
Why does a man who didn't participate in destroying the evil power who could destroy the world have a place in history higher than those who fought bravely?
Why does hawke get the glory when my warden fades silently in history books when he did no good and fleed?
Why does a man who did NOTHING to fight the archdemon have the right to shape thedas?
How I'm going to get involved with the story of a man's rise to his own power when others are doing the epic tasks at the same time?
How can I care about a man who seeks power for himself when I just took part in the story of a hero who saved the world?

Its all in the Beard

Beards ftw!

[nuclearpengu1nn]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

GreyWarden36 wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Why does a man who fleed from the blight DESERVE to become the most influent being on the world?
Why does a man who didn't participate in destroying the evil power who could destroy the world have a place in history higher than those who fought bravely?
Why does hawke get the glory when my warden fades silently in history books when he did no good and fleed?
Why does a man who did NOTHING to fight the archdemon have the right to shape thedas?
How I'm going to get involved with the story of a man's rise to his own power when others are doing the epic tasks at the same time?
How can I care about a man who seeks power for himself when I just took part in the story of a hero who saved the world?

Its all in the Beard

Beards ftw!

There should be a Dragon Age game dedicated to beards.

yes!!!
and when you pre order it you get a life size beard that can talk:O

[Quinnzel]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

GreyWarden36 wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Why does a man who fleed from the blight DESERVE to become the most influent being on the world?
Why does a man who didn't participate in destroying the evil power who could destroy the world have a place in history higher than those who fought bravely?
Why does hawke get the glory when my warden fades silently in history books when he did no good and fleed?
Why does a man who did NOTHING to fight the archdemon have the right to shape thedas?
How I'm going to get involved with the story of a man's rise to his own power when others are doing the epic tasks at the same time?
How can I care about a man who seeks power for himself when I just took part in the story of a hero who saved the world?

Its all in the Beard

Beards ftw!

There should be a Dragon Age game dedicated to beards.

This. I would also like to point out to the OP that who says he is the most important person for a good reason? Who knows, depending on how you play, you might become the equivilant of Hitler or Napoleon. Incredibly important yes, but for whatevers reasons have yet to be un-released.

Modifié par Quinnzel, 22 juillet 2010 - 06:50 .

[ArcanistLibram]

Hawke is obviously the ancestor of CIAPHAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

More seriously, this thread is the reason why DA2 should have absolutely nothing to do with Origins or the Blight. Just give Hawke his own stuff to deal with and ignore everything else so I can pretend my Warden proved his masculine superiority over Cailan by getting Anora pregnant 2 or 3 times.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

Hawke is obviously the ancestor of CIAPHAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

More seriously, this thread is the reason why DA2 should have absolutely nothing to do with Origins or the Blight. Just give Hawke his own stuff to deal with and ignore everything else so I can pretend my Warden proved his masculine superiority over Cailan by getting Anora pregnant 2 or 3 times.

or maybe the hero DANE
i still go with child of DUNCAN

[Heimdall]

I can't bring myself to think that fleeing certain death when your death wouldn't have changed a thing is cowardly

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Here's my actual problem:



Remove "Our" from your thread title as you don't speak for the rest of us. It's greatly pompous of you to think that we all would feel the same as you.

[Artemis_Entrari]

David Gaider wrote...

Some of those questions will be answered in time. Some are only going to be answered by playing the game-- the question of why Hawke became a legend is the central question that the story of the game answers. Why this would lead you to "not respect" Hawke is a bit strange to me, but fair enough. At this point in the marketing I imagine he's a fairly blank slate.

Mr. Gaider, I realize you probably can't or won't answer this, but my question is: Why does Hawke's prowess have to surpass that of the Grey Wardens'?  Maybe it doesn't, but based on the write-ups so far it seems like he's going to become "the most powerful individual EVAH!", and IMO, that kind of bothers me.  Why can't he simply be one of many "heroes" in the history of Dragon Age, rather than making him out to be THE greatest champion ever?

It kind of feels the same way as when The Force Unleashed decided that the Secret Apprentice was more powerful than Vader or the Emperor.  It comes away as a cheesy way of "marketing" the character to the folks who can't enjoy a game unless their character is the greatest character of all time.

[filetemo]

The blight could've brought 200 years of hunger and death if not by the warden, he left lothering behind for the greater good, because of the recruiting an army mission. I feel like if somebody does not take part at all in the single most important battle in thedas, he does not deserve to be anybody important.That maybe is my personal opinion but I don't think I'm alone with this.



If we'd been told that hawke was an ostagar survivor that was left wounded under a pile of corpses and healed later, for example, you can say at least he did something. But at this moment, with the few information we have, he looks a "run away and do shady business for your personal profit while others are not looking because they're getting the job done" type of guy.



Of course it will all be revealed during the game, but some of the negativity in this forum towards the character could be explained by my first post questions, that rather than be a hate thread for the character are trying to find an explanation for the initial hostility and for checking if someone really feels like that too and for them to post their thoughts about it.



Oh, and thanks to Gaider for his fast response to the thread

[Daveastation]

Fleed?

[Adanu]

So if we don't rush head long into deaths clutches and play sword fodder for three people, we're not worthy?



Interesting logic.

[TyDurden13]

In fairness, the Warden didn't exactly stick around Lothering either.

[Riona45]

filetemo wrote...
But at this moment, with the few information we have, he looks a "run away and do shady business for your personal profit while others are not looking because they're getting the job done" type of guy.

But the Warden could have done shady and not very heroic stuff (you don't have to save Redcliffe village, for example) and yet they still wound up as a "hero."

Modifié par Riona45, 22 juillet 2010 - 07:31 .

[Beerfish]

The allies at Dunkirk should not have 'fleed' they should have stayed to get more respect.

[iTomes]

honestly, to get away to fight another day sounds logical to me. besides, as far as i know hawke could leave lothering because flemeth saved him, otherwise he wouldve died.... so i guess he stayed and fought.^^

[ArcanistLibram]

I always thought the Warden left Lothering because there was no point in saving it. Everyone was getting ready to pack up and leave, there weren't any actual soldiers left to defend it, there was no castle to protect it and the town itself wasn't in a really defensible position. Lothering might have been convenient for travelers and merchants, but it sure as hell wasn't important and it's clear nobody thought it was worth defending.

[Landline]

There is an old saying: Better to flee and live to fight another day.

[R.U.N]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Some of those questions will be answered in time. Some are only going to be answered by playing the game-- the question of why Hawke became a legend is the central question that the story of the game answers. Why this would lead you to "not respect" Hawke is a bit strange to me, but fair enough. At this point in the marketing I imagine he's a fairly blank slate.

Mr. Gaider, I realize you probably can't or won't answer this, but my question is: Why does Hawke's prowess have to surpass that of the Grey Wardens'?  Maybe it doesn't, but based on the write-ups so far it seems like he's going to become "the most powerful individual EVAH!", and IMO, that kind of bothers me.  Why can't he simply be one of many "heroes" in the history of Dragon Age, rather than making him out to be THE greatest champion ever?

It kind of feels the same way as when The Force Unleashed decided that the Secret Apprentice was more powerful than Vader or the Emperor.  It comes away as a cheesy way of "marketing" the character to the folks who can't enjoy a game unless their character is the greatest character of all time.

I agree.
If it was ''Hawke another very important character in the history of Thedas'' instead of ''THE most important character'' people wouldn't be half as pissed.
Really, how over the top is Hawke going to be then?
Having High-Dragons as pets, bedding Flemeth and beating up the maker while he rocks the beard?

That way it's like he's competing with the Warden and I can only imagine how many gamers are going to be like:,,
My Warden wouldn't have done this and that'' or ''My Warden would've taken out Flemeth in a sec.''.

Hopefully it's just PR nonsense, otherwise what's the next protagonist going to be like?
The most important person in the universe and he/she uses Shepard as a toothpick?