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[Revan061]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I don't want to see humanity in charge of the galaxy because of our nature, we deem to conquer and enslave what we don't understand and rule over it instead of working together for a better universe. Earth is pretty much a giant example of too much human dominance, it's filled with crime and poverty while the richer people live in luxury.

Pretty much this.

[mosor]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

Revan061 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I don't want to see humanity in charge of the galaxy because of our nature, we deem to conquer and enslave what we don't understand and rule over it instead of working together for a better universe. Earth is pretty much a giant example of too much human dominance, it's filled with crime and poverty while the richer people live in luxury.

Pretty much this.

Very good point......

The same could be said for every council race. They haven't shown themselves to be benevolant, or have some perfect society that we should take them as an example, let alone answer to them

[Revan061]

I'm not for any one race dominating. I'm also not naïve enough to think that there won't be stratifications within galactic society, especially racially based ones. That doesn't change the fact that everyone needs to at least "play nice" for the whole galactic civilization thing to work with out exorbitant amounts of rampant warfare. The terminus is a good precursor for how bad things can potentially get. People would be talking about Omega like it was Eden prime, or whichever example of a working and mostly violence free society you prefer.

[Inverness Moon]

Shandepared wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

But they still broke the law even if no is sure how it happened. Which is why they lost their embassy on the Citadel. If you kill someone without intending to kill them, it's still a crime.

Yeah, but its manlsaughter instead of murder and in fact it may not be a crime. It depends largely whether or not the person's death was the result of negligence on your part.

Were the quarian engineers who designed the geth negligent? It's quite possible. It was extremely sadistic to judge the entire species that way though.

I mean, you do realize that a species is comprised of individuals, right? The overwhelming majority of quarians had nothing to do with designing the geth nor with the order to shut them down (which was reasonable decision by the government anyway). Yet you're quite content to judge their entire species worthy of extermination.

That's pretty harsh.

Do you not consider quarians alive? At least I don't consider the geth anything but machines.

Negligence can carry pretty heavy penalties. In the case of the quarians they got the boot.

[Inverness Moon]

Shandepared wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Negligence can carry pretty heavy penalties. In the case of the quarians they got the boot.

Genocide just wasn't enough.

Treat others the way you want to be treated. :innocent:

[Inverness Moon]

Shandepared wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...
Treat others the way you want to be treated. :innocent:

That's why I play renegade. Everyone's out for genocide so I need to protect my own.

If the true geth were out for genocide, the rest of the galaxy would know it.  Or perhaps thats why they're building their Death Geth Star.

[Soviet Vodka]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

Soviet Vodka wrote...

I totally support Cerberus, the greater good is always more seductive then short term solutions. That is why I will always admire Tim's character.

I don't think TIM does it for the greater good...it's more like what's greater for me and what's going to make me more powerful.  I don't trust his motives.  Him saying "intact" with his fist clenched at the end of the game says it all....

I would'nt be so sure to judge him alone by that. Pouring billions of credits in to Shep, the Normandy, and all manner of other expenses might not be heart breaking for Tim but in an organization where being able to make galaxy altering decisions but then only being able to play as the background coaxer for Shepard can lead to much emotional frustration. I'm sure if Shepard killed 100 Cerberus agents he still would have been content with that collector base as a way of forwarding his motives.

If his motives are good or bad, that is your coin to flip. What side it lands on? Well we will see it in maybe 2 years.

[Sajuro]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

But they still broke the law even if no is sure how it happened. Which is why they lost their embassy on the Citadel. If you kill someone without intending to kill them, it's still a crime.

Yeah, but its manlsaughter instead of murder and in fact it may not be a crime. It depends largely whether or not the person's death was the result of negligence on your part.

Were the quarian engineers who designed the geth negligent? It's quite possible. It was extremely sadistic to judge the entire species that way though.

I mean, you do realize that a species is comprised of individuals, right? The overwhelming majority of quarians had nothing to do with designing the geth nor with the order to shut them down (which was reasonable decision by the government anyway). Yet you're quite content to judge their entire species worthy of extermination.

That's pretty harsh.

Do you not consider quarians alive? At least I don't consider the geth anything but machines.

Negligence can carry pretty heavy penalties. In the case of the quarians they got the boot.

But the priiize

[Lotto]

lol at humans talking about how evil humans are

[Revan061]

Or perhaps thats why they're building their Death Geth Star.[/quote]
I lol'd.

Modifié par Revan061, 27 juillet 2010 - 06:30 .

[Revan061]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

I'm pro human, not pro-cerberus. I told garrus at the collector base that I knew TIM would double-cross me. I stuck it to him at the end, and I plan on taking my services to South Beach back to the Alliance.

Just saw this. I lmao'd

[harazal]

I was very pro-cerebus, but i tend towards the right wing in politics. I'm not a big fan of committes talking problems to death. I've multiple shep's covering all the scenario's, and personally speaking, the way the council treats shep in any time line that they lived is pretty shabby. In the time lines where they died, i didn't like the allaince saying i was crazy after i died.



Cerebus gets the job done, and you cant argue with results.

[Christmas Ape]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I don't want to see humanity in charge of the galaxy because of our nature, we deem to conquer and enslave what we don't understand and rule over it instead of working together for a better universe.

Better us than the turians.

[Revan061]

I think I fall right in the middle politically. Pertaining to the reaction shep gets from whomever may be on the council, I saw that coming anyway. Government is code for "secret club that thinks they know better than the rest of us, and if the rabble ever got wind of the truth, they would all revert to feral animals anyway". Alas, I digress. I'm certainly not pro-cerberus, but I'm also not really pro-anything. If beings would just chill and be happy that they are alive and healthy everything would be cool. But that's also a reason I support big government in healthcare matters. If you have the means to help those truly in need, you have the responsibility to do so. Also TIM kinda rubbed my shep the wrong way, so now he tries to do the opposite of what Cerberus wants regarding methodology and minor missions.

[snfonseka]

Does any1 remember Ashleys comment on "sacrificing the dog to save yourself"? I think that comment is accurate where all the species look after their own interest before others.

[Revan061]

Split Double Post. Pwned.

Modifié par Revan061, 27 juillet 2010 - 10:30 .

[Asheer_Khan]

harazal wrote...

I was very pro-cerebus, but i tend towards the right wing in politics. I'm not a big fan of committes talking problems to death. I've multiple shep's covering all the scenario's, and personally speaking, the way the council treats shep in any time line that they lived is pretty shabby. In the time lines where they died, i didn't like the allaince saying i was crazy after i died.

Cerebus gets the job done, and you cant argue with results.

Using latest US election slogan of current President...

YES WE CAN  

[alienatedflea]

i think cerberus is a great idea if it was governed by a government? (i dont see why people are so edgy with privately owned and operated organizations when they do questionable acts but are okay with governments doing the same act just because they can create laws...thats just me...i think when i was ren shep after i did para shep i saw the illusive man actually caring about his workers a little more than just a name on a paper after jacob's loyalty mission when i basically told TiM to stop mindf***ing my crew and he said i would never do a thing like that so dont act like you know my intentions...so i think cerebus is the forerunner of humanity's achievement for both good and bad but thats just my opinion

[Christmas Ape]

alienatedflea wrote...
i think cerberus is a great idea if it was governed by a government? (i dont see why people are so edgy with privately owned and operated organizations when they do questionable acts but are okay with governments doing the same act just because they can create laws...thats just me...i think when i was ren shep after i did para shep i saw the illusive man actually caring about his workers a little more than just a name on a paper after jacob's loyalty mission when i basically told TiM to stop mindf***ing my crew and he said i would never do a thing like that so dont act like you know my intentions...so i think cerebus is the forerunner of humanity's achievement for both good and bad but thats just my opinion

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