Sorry Cerberus but <Garrus, Tali, Grunt, Thane, Legion, and Mordin are to cool for me to support a group that dosent like them.
How many people here are pro-cerberus?
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#127
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Posté 22 juillet 2010 - 11:36
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Sajuro wrote...
Ah yes, threats...
Threats should be guarded against and when possible, eliminated.
The Turians: They took over Shanxi and they might attack us again.. attack!
An open attack would just invite interstellar war on a massive scale. Instead of that we can cope by maintaining a strong military that will deter them from trying to push us around.
The Salarians: They could make bio-weapons and use them against us... attack!
Once again, an open attack would merely invite a massive interstellar war. Instead the solution is to maintain an effective intelligence service that can sniff out any salarian plots against us. If the salarians can't act in secret to pre-empt us then we've drastically reduced the threat from them.
The Batarians: They're slavers and North Korea in space.... attack!
Once again, maintain a strong presence in the Skyillian Verge and Attican Traverse to deter them from taking any significant hostile action. Of-course with Udina running the Council we are more than capable, and willing, to pre-empt them whenever we see fit and they are hard-pressed to retaliate.
The Elcor: They can carry cannons on their backs... attack!
Maintain an update data network on the elcor so that should hostilites ever arise you know how to respond. An open attack is not necessary.
The Krogan: They are all violent! attack!
No, just destroy the genophage cure and ensure they spend the rest of their brutish existence killing each other.
The Volus: They're allied with the turians... attack!
Better yet, win them over to our side by showing that we are bigger, stronger, and more influential. This is what we're doing in ME2 if you followed the renegade path in ME1.
The Vorcha: enough said... attack!
Just wipe them out, I agree. Scum of the galaxy.
The Asari: they are seducing humans... attack!
Don't attack them in a shooting war, attack their economy and culture. We should encourage human and then galactic media to portray asari values and beliefs in a negative light. Show the galaxy how insidious their intrusive culture is and the negative effects it has on other species. Bring to light their method of dominating the galaxy and imply that everyone else is better off casting away asari influence.
Alien Sympathizers: They undermine
Use the media to portray them as the seditious anti-humans that they are. They're dangerous and subversive elements. Destroy their credibility.
#128
Posté 22 juillet 2010 - 11:53
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Shand, I may be wrong, but I don't think Sajuro was being... well... serious.
I think Sajuro was just saying that if you're paranoid enough, everything is a threat worthy of a hostile freakout attack.
I think Sajuro was just saying that if you're paranoid enough, everything is a threat worthy of a hostile freakout attack.
#129
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Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 12:13
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Nightwriter wrote...
Shand, I may be wrong, but I don't think Sajuro was being... well... serious.
Of-course not, he's freaking out at the prospect that it might not be wise to blindly trust everybody. He doesn't grasp how international relations really works. You want to maintain good relations when you can, but you must always be prepared incase diplomacy fails.
Of-course the turians and salarians and everyone else is a threat or obstacle in some fashion, but that doesn't mean we attack everybody outright. It means that we're always read in case we need to. We're always ready to defend ourselves.
#130
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 12:24
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Shandepared wrote...
Of-course not, he's freaking out at the prospect that it might not be wise to blindly trust everybody. He doesn't grasp how international relations really works. You want to maintain good relations when you can, but you must always be prepared incase diplomacy fails.
Of-course the turians and salarians and everyone else is a threat or obstacle in some fashion, but that doesn't mean we attack everybody outright. It means that we're always read in case we need to. We're always ready to defend ourselves.
Big stick diplomacy, man. Big stick diplomacy.
#131
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 12:24
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Im Anti-Cerberus. Mainly because my latest character was heavily involved with the group and tried to cut it down at every chance he had. He sent the information to Alliance from the Cerberus Operative. And freed Micheal (Was that the guy in the geth communicator? or was that his brother?) He thoroughly hates TIM. But, while the reaper threat is imminent, I'm stuck with their crew, so Ill have to deal.
#133
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 12:57
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You need to put in more effort if you expect me to take you seriously.Sajuro wrote...
Ah yes, threatsInverness Moon wrote...
And what TIM means by the reapers and beyond is that it would be foolish to think that the reapers are the last or only threat to humanity out there.
The Turians: They took over Shanxi and they might attack us again.. attack!
The Salarians: They could make bio-weapons and use them against us... attack!
The Batarians: They're slavers and North Korea in space.... attack!
The Elcor: They can carry cannons on their backs... attack!
The Krogan: They are all violent! attack!
The Volus: They're allied with the turians... attack!
The Vorcha: enough said... attack!
The Asari: they are seducing humans... attack!
Alien Sympathizers: They undermineCerberusHuman strength... attack!
If not, :innocent:
#134
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:17
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Strike two Shand, I know you can't blindly trust people but with TIM could come up with reasons for all of the aliens to be wiped out since all you need to do is be a 'threat'. Simply put, you give Timmy an inch, he'll use that inch to subjugate aliens to 'defend humanity' and then the anti cerberus humans to 'defend humanity'.Shandepared wrote...
Nightwriter wrote...
Shand, I may be wrong, but I don't think Sajuro was being... well... serious.
Of-course not, he's freaking out at the prospect that it might not be wise to blindly trust everybody. He doesn't grasp how international relations really works. You want to maintain good relations when you can, but you must always be prepared incase diplomacy fails.
Of-course the turians and salarians and everyone else is a threat or obstacle in some fashion, but that doesn't mean we attack everybody outright. It means that we're always read in case we need to. We're always ready to defend ourselves.
#135
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:19
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Actually Shand is correct here in IR, every country smiles nicely, but has a fist behind their back waiting to slug the first person to step on there toes. No nation trusts any other nation, leading to the messes the world is in all over the place today.
Fear, and Security was an actual unit in Global Politics I took.
Fear, and Security was an actual unit in Global Politics I took.
#136
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:32
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Not against hiding a knife in your coat pocket while you smile and shake peoples hands. Just against the vague term of 'threats' and Timmy using that term at all. Saying something is a threat to security is a fast and easy way to get the masses to shut up.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Actually Shand is correct here in IR, every country smiles nicely, but has a fist behind their back waiting to slug the first person to step on there toes. No nation trusts any other nation, leading to the messes the world is in all over the place today.
Fear, and Security was an actual unit in Global Politics I took.
#137
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:36
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Sadly its because people fear the unknown and will do anything to be safe, thats just human nature.
TIM is either controlled and paranoid with fear about others, or is using to control Cereberus and others.
TIM is either controlled and paranoid with fear about others, or is using to control Cereberus and others.
#138
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:38
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Barquiel wrote...
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it's ridiculous to think that the universe will unite under a shining rainbow in a field of bunnies and unicorns
Why not?
For example, after 300 years of...
http://en.wikipedia....h–German_enmity
we have rainbows and bunnies now (...or the european union^_^)
Not saying you couldn't have rainbows and bunnies, just that it's ridiculous to think you'll have it just because the Reapers are gone.
Analogy. If you have a room with 10 people and one of them is a lunatic with a gun the other 9 will gang up to kill the lunatic. Afterwards the 9, rather than achieving rainbow status, will turn on one another fighting over the gun. The best you can hope for is a few of the 9 banding together to keep the gun from the others using the threat of the gun to order them about. Such is life, an endless cycle of lunatics being brought down so that they may be a stepping stone for the next lunatic.
#139
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:39
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I'd be more pro-Cerberus if they didn't murder Admiral Kahoku.
#140
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:46
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That's why he is not to be trusted.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Sadly its because people fear the unknown and will do anything to be safe, thats just human nature.
TIM is either controlled and paranoid with fear about others, or is using to control Cereberus and others.
#141
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 01:59
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Your fear of TIM, Cerberus, and maybe is making up your mind Sajuro.
People may not realize it but many people are controlled by fear in many choices.
People may not realize it but many people are controlled by fear in many choices.
#142
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:10
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My fear of TIM: yes, I am afraid of him but that's because he is power hungry. To TIM, Cerberus is Humanity, and TIM is Cerberus.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Your fear of TIM, Cerberus, and maybe is making up your mind Sajuro.
People may not realize it but many people are controlled by fear in many choices.
My fear of Cerberus: not so much, I just don't like them because they are a bunch of human dominance nutters.
My fear of Maybe: Maybe is good at the appropriate times. At other times, it is very troubling.
Good: Maybe I will come tonight, Maybe we'll get pizza
Bad: This elevator is perfectly safe... maybe, I won't use the collector's base to subjugate anyone who disagrees with me or isn't human... maybe.
#143
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:14
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Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate to suffering.
This seems appropiate as to what it does in ME.
This seems appropiate as to what it does in ME.
#144
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:15
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers
But anyway, I'm all for humanity's needs coming first, but Cerberus needs to calm down a bit.
-Will Rogers
But anyway, I'm all for humanity's needs coming first, but Cerberus needs to calm down a bit.
#145
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:20
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You're not as familiar with TIM's character as you seem to think.Sajuro wrote...
Strike two Shand, I know you can't blindly trust people but with TIM could come up with reasons for all of the aliens to be wiped out since all you need to do is be a 'threat'. Simply put, you give Timmy an inch, he'll use that inch to subjugate aliens to 'defend humanity' and then the anti cerberus humans to 'defend humanity'.
#146
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:44
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He's an opprotunist who runs an organization on the platform of advancing humanity.Inverness Moon wrote...
You're not as familiar with TIM's character as you seem to think.Sajuro wrote...
Strike two Shand, I know you can't blindly trust people but with TIM could come up with reasons for all of the aliens to be wiped out since all you need to do is be a 'threat'. Simply put, you give Timmy an inch, he'll use that inch to subjugate aliens to 'defend humanity' and then the anti cerberus humans to 'defend humanity'.
#147
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:48
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read darth and droids you shouldGiggles_Manically wrote...
Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate to suffering.
This seems appropiate as to what it does in ME.
http://www.darthsand...sodes/0137.html
#148
Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 02:51
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Cerberus are foolish. I'm heavily renegade and as such don't mind their methods. I just don't like their agenda. I don't want a galactic human empire.
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Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 03:58
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I like how they want to help with the Reapers. The freaky experiments? Not so much. But people who think they're significantly different from any government in the ME universe or our own world is kidding themselves.
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Posté 23 juillet 2010 - 04:14
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wiggles89 wrote...
I like how they want to help with the Reapers. The freaky experiments? Not so much. But people who think they're significantly different from any government in the ME universe or our own world is kidding themselves.
Well stated, my friend.
