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[mllrthyme]

Saibh wrote...

mllrthyme wrote...

Ugh! Sharing Alistair with Morrigan at the end, and her snide little remarks irritated me so much that I did the ultimate sacrifice on my next playthrough. That epilogue, needless to say, was something of a let down. Ali should have pined more.

...Mods, my dear, mods.

EDIT: Not that they shouldn't have been in the vanilla version, but still. Alleviate your broken fangirl hearts with the cunning use of cheating!

EDIT 2: Also, does anyone else think the eye-open thing is weird? I guess to make the sacrificee look more...dead...but it just looked like Alistair picked her up and she's laying there like "Oh my god, that was trippy".

Nice.  Thanks for the link. 
I also watched the scene from Alistair's sacrifice - he's got some serious nostil flare going on that I never noticed before.  It's right when he delivers the killing blow.

[Saibh]

Time4Tiddy wrote...

mopotter wrote...

ShenyaCousland wrote...

Nathanial Howe. Or Anders. Dark perverse humor, incredible womanizer, definitly NOT the type for shy little girls. I'm sorry, but I like my pixels to be.. erm.. "Ready to fight" If you will
And no, I'm not a lonely creeper, I just find it incredibly entertaining.

 I do wish the "lonely creeper" stuff would just go away.  Especially in a gaming community.   I have only met one gamer who lived in his mother's basement.  But he had a good job and was saving his money.  

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

Then why all the Twilight worship?

Er...not that I'm saying we're not healthy, adjusted individuals. We are. I am.

[mllrthyme]

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

Agreed.  I married my own version of Kaiden/Alistair (except waaaaay better) and I'd like something with a different flavor to play in-game with.  Besides, with a fantasy bad - boy the repercussions are a lot less complicated.  If he screws you over, you just load a save game and try a different dialogue option or kill him off.  No harm no foul.

[Blessed Silence]

I will admit, as one who was a drooling Alistair fan before DA:O came out, I was a bit disappointed on how they made him a bit on the whiney side.  Now mind you, I am a girl who likes a man who realizes his vulnerabilities and limitations but come on man ... grow some gonads.

Morrigan ... ugh ... I refuse to even use her.  Once I tried my best to befriend her but all I wanted to do was slap her to come back to reality.  She just gets on my nerves.

Lelianna ... no.  Grates on my nerves.

Killed whatever the elf was ... heh forgot his name!

Hm ...

I am hoping at least for a half decent romance character.  I can't really describe what I would like .. it's like describing an emotion with words.  I did enjoy the relationships in ME2 especially with Tali.  She was nervous but still stood on her own.

I only just read the DA 2 article int he recent PC Gamer Game Informer magazine so I don't know much else so far.

Modifié par Blessed Silence, 26 juillet 2010 - 05:19 .

[Blessed Silence]

Calla S wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Calla S wrote...

I'd love to have an LI something like Daveth. A little perverted, straight-forward, not too high brow. I've always loved his accent/manner of speech, too.

Same here, actually.  Not surprised he (apparently) has a small fanbase.

Heh, me too. Boy, was I raging during the Joining.

I've resolved not to get attached to any of the characters in DA2 until I know they survive. First Daveth dies in the Joining. Then King Cailan gets squashed by an ogre. So I say, "no more! I'll have no more of this!" Then I meet Ser Otto. 

Yup.

I'm still ticked off about that.

I will admit I was ticked as well when Daveth died.  Bah ... kind of like all the hot guys in movies get knocked off in the first fifteen minutes.

[mllrthyme]

I will admit I was ticked as well when Daveth died.  Bah ... kind of like all the hot guys in movies get knocked off in the first fifteen minutes.

I was saddened as well when he died.  *tear*  I enjoyed what small amount of dialogue he had and the shameless flirting was fun too.  Watch my back?  You go right ahead, boy-o!

[Saibh]

mllrthyme wrote...

I will admit I was ticked as well when Daveth died.  Bah ... kind of like all the hot guys in movies get knocked off in the first fifteen minutes.

I was saddened as well when he died.  *tear*  I enjoyed what small amount of dialogue he had and the shameless flirting was fun too.  Watch my back?  You go right ahead, boy-o!

I sort of knew he would die, since he took the time to tell me everything about his life there was to know with no awkward trailings-off or moody "There's nothing more to say".

Plus, no approval bar. And he didn't level. So I didn't feel too saddened, anymore than I felt when Duncan or Cailan died.

Modifié par Saibh, 26 juillet 2010 - 05:49 .

[Anarya]

Saibh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

zazei wrote...

Saibh wrote...
You tread a thin, thin line.  Personally, I like the way DAO handled their happy endings: you can have it, sure, but it's going to come a price and sacrifice. ME2's worked as well, where it's simply a matter of working really really hard to make sure everyone survives. Even if marrying Alistair as Queen Cousland came with strings attached, to me, that bit of happiness is enough for "happily ever after". If there isn't one, generally it means something like "they never loved you", "they betray you", "they die".

I would argue death isn't a bad choice if it happen toward the end of the game and they handle it well. Toss in some nonsense about a short flame burns even brighter or some such here and I'm sold. Especially if it ends with my character and her hero going down together.  

I agree.  If we have a 10 year span, death at the end isn't as bad.  I would rather have one ending where they are siting watching their kids learn to do something or as someone suggested somewhere, show someone telling the kids the story of their grandparents,

The only ending with Alistair I liked was the one I got romancing Zev.  I hated the fact that not one of the Alistair romance endings had a nice riding off to save the world together without the image of Morrigan in my head ending.  I totally quite romancing Alistair and found a nice mod that lets me romance someone I don't have to share.   I will stop now and hope for DA2. 

You know what I would've liked? The ability to ask Alistair about sleeping with her. Any range from  "I'll never forgive you"--"You made me do it!"--"NEVER FORGET!" to "Are you okay, honeybear?" to "So, tell me: did she turn into a spider?"

You can ask Morrigan...but you can't go "So, uh..."like a sister" dear...he didn't enjoy it too much, did he?" (Does it bother anyone else that she proclaims in front of her best friend and "sister" that her fiance will enjoy it far more than he thinks?)

That last line of Morrigan's never really bothered me too much. I saw it as Morri trying to be comforting to Alistair (even if only for the benefit of her friend the Warden), but kinda failing because well, she's Morri and she's socially stunted.

I have to say doing the DR with Loghain really gave me a different perspective on the whole thing. Then it was less "Betch be stealin' my boyfriend and rubbing her fertility in my face!!" and more "Oh wow, you would do that for me, Morrigan? Way to take one for the team." Even though it isn't really altruistic on her part I still think she does want to help the Warden(s). If she likes you, that is. 

But on the whole I like that there is no 100% happy ending. I dig the "bittersweet" thing in stories.

[mllrthyme]

Saibh wrote...

mllrthyme wrote...

I will admit I was ticked as well when Daveth died.  Bah ... kind of like all the hot guys in movies get knocked off in the first fifteen minutes.

I was saddened as well when he died.  *tear*  I enjoyed what small amount of dialogue he had and the shameless flirting was fun too.  Watch my back?  You go right ahead, boy-o!

I sort of knew he would die, since he took the time to tell me everything about his life there was to know with no awkward trailings-off or moody "There's nothing more to say".

Plus, no approval bar. And he didn't level. So I didn't feel too saddened, anymore than I felt when Duncan or Cailan died.

You know, the more I "talk" to people on this forum, the more I realize my powers of observation really suck.

[SithLordExarKun]

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[langelog]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

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Modifié par Seagloom, 26 juillet 2010 - 12:27 .

[mopotter]

Saibh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

zazei wrote...

Saibh wrote...
You tread a thin, thin line.  Personally, I like the way DAO handled their happy endings: you can have it, sure, but it's going to come a price and sacrifice. ME2's worked as well, where it's simply a matter of working really really hard to make sure everyone survives. Even if marrying Alistair as Queen Cousland came with strings attached, to me, that bit of happiness is enough for "happily ever after". If there isn't one, generally it means something like "they never loved you", "they betray you", "they die".

I would argue death isn't a bad choice if it happen toward the end of the game and they handle it well. Toss in some nonsense about a short flame burns even brighter or some such here and I'm sold. Especially if it ends with my character and her hero going down together.  

I agree.  If we have a 10 year span, death at the end isn't as bad.  I would rather have one ending where they are siting watching their kids learn to do something or as someone suggested somewhere, show someone telling the kids the story of their grandparents,

The only ending with Alistair I liked was the one I got romancing Zev.  I hated the fact that not one of the Alistair romance endings had a nice riding off to save the world together without the image of Morrigan in my head ending.  I totally quite romancing Alistair and found a nice mod that lets me romance someone I don't have to share.   I will stop now and hope for DA2. 

You know what I would've liked? The ability to ask Alistair about sleeping with her. Any range from  "I'll never forgive you"--"You made me do it!"--"NEVER FORGET!" to "Are you okay, honeybear?" to "So, tell me: did she turn into a spider?"

You can ask Morrigan...but you can't go "So, uh..."like a sister" dear...he didn't enjoy it too much, did he?" (Does it bother anyone else that she proclaims in front of her best friend and "sister" that her fiance will enjoy it far more than he thinks?)

Yes!  I would have liked something the next morning, or even a few hours later, something to know she hadn't bewitched him.  She was, after all a witch.  I knew he hated her and she thought he was, the nicest thing I can think of is dumb and I did it once because I try everything onces in a game. (EDIT - I actually romanced Alistair with every background thinking there had to be something that would let us both survive without Morrigan and am still upset)  It was actually worst than leaving Ash or Kaidan behind.  And that makes me cry every time.  A;listair and Morrigan  just made me mad.

YES YES!! it bothered me that she called me sister and said that he would enjoy it more then he thinks.  It was to my one of my characters who hadn't had any more experience than Alistair.  I've always felt that this actually ruined any future they may have had.  

Then to top it off, when I didn't send him to her, I didn't not have Alistair come to my room.  I don't think I missed it by asking the wrong question, I don't think it was there.  We spent the last night of one of our lives alone.  Well, not in my mind, but no proof that we were together.

 It just was not very well thought out.  IMO   And I NEVER want it as a LI option again.  Unless they have some way not to do it that gives a similar outcome.  

Some has said Alistair was just to immature to accept Loghain as a gray warden, without being married to the queen, so future LI need to be more mature, (keeping it on track - future LI  more mature).  

Modifié par mopotter, 26 juillet 2010 - 11:20 .

[mopotter]

Saibh wrote...

mllrthyme wrote...

Ugh! Sharing Alistair with Morrigan at the end, and her snide little remarks irritated me so much that I did the ultimate sacrifice on my next playthrough. That epilogue, needless to say, was something of a let down. Ali should have pined more.

...Mods, my dear, mods.

EDIT: Not that they shouldn't have been in the vanilla version, but still. Alleviate your broken fangirl hearts with the cunning use of cheating!

EDIT 2: Also, does anyone else think the eye-open thing is weird? I guess to make the sacrificee look more...dead...but it just looked like Alistair picked her up and she's laying there like "Oh my god, that was trippy".

Mods - the reason I play DA on the pc and not my 360.  I actually just wanted to be able to change my hair style and maybe get some nice robes, but after the ending, I quite playing until I found a mod to romance Ser Gilmore who after being captured, escapes and finds you at Lothring.  A nice happy ending.  I think you always need just one happy ending.

[mopotter]

Time4Tiddy wrote...

mopotter wrote...

ShenyaCousland wrote...

Nathanial Howe. Or Anders. Dark perverse humor, incredible womanizer, definitly NOT the type for shy little girls. I'm sorry, but I like my pixels to be.. erm.. "Ready to fight" If you will
And no, I'm not a lonely creeper, I just find it incredibly entertaining.

 I do wish the "lonely creeper" stuff would just go away.  Especially in a gaming community.   I have only met one gamer who lived in his mother's basement.  But he had a good job and was saving his money.  

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

 lonely, creepy and desperate.   I should have added  I'm one of the "good guy" fans, and I  hear this because I like games like BioWare's that have some romance in them.  So silly.  Most of the movies I watch and books I read have a little romance in them along with the action.

[mopotter]

mllrthyme wrote...

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

Agreed.  I married my own version of Kaiden/Alistair (except waaaaay better) and I'd like something with a different flavor to play in-game with.  Besides, with a fantasy bad - boy the repercussions are a lot less complicated.  If he screws you over, you just load a save game and try a different dialogue option or kill him off.  No harm no foul.

:happy:  But then there are those like me.  I'm happily married, he holds my hand in public, sings me love songs and occasionally brings me a single rose.  We've been married 20 years and together for 23, and I would marry him again, and considering my views on marriage when I was younger, that always surprises me.

But I Love the Carth, Kaidan, Alistair characters, with their sense of humor and kindness and will pick them the majority of play throughs.  There is just something I find very attractive about them.  I don't mind being compared to a dead wife.   

I'll do a few plays with the "bad boy" but most of my games will be be with the one I don't have to kill off 

I do spend hours checking out all of the dialogue options.    Especially if they make me laugh.

[mopotter]

Anarya wrote...

Saibh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

zazei wrote...

Saibh wrote...
You tread a thin, thin line.  Personally, I like the way DAO handled their happy endings: you can have it, sure, but it's going to come a price and sacrifice. ME2's worked as well, where it's simply a matter of working really really hard to make sure everyone survives. Even if marrying Alistair as Queen Cousland came with strings attached, to me, that bit of happiness is enough for "happily ever after". If there isn't one, generally it means something like "they never loved you", "they betray you", "they die".

I would argue death isn't a bad choice if it happen toward the end of the game and they handle it well. Toss in some nonsense about a short flame burns even brighter or some such here and I'm sold. Especially if it ends with my character and her hero going down together.  

I agree.  If we have a 10 year span, death at the end isn't as bad.  I would rather have one ending where they are siting watching their kids learn to do something or as someone suggested somewhere, show someone telling the kids the story of their grandparents,

The only ending with Alistair I liked was the one I got romancing Zev.  I hated the fact that not one of the Alistair romance endings had a nice riding off to save the world together without the image of Morrigan in my head ending.  I totally quite romancing Alistair and found a nice mod that lets me romance someone I don't have to share.   I will stop now and hope for DA2. 

You know what I would've liked? The ability to ask Alistair about sleeping with her. Any range from  "I'll never forgive you"--"You made me do it!"--"NEVER FORGET!" to "Are you okay, honeybear?" to "So, tell me: did she turn into a spider?"

You can ask Morrigan...but you can't go "So, uh..."like a sister" dear...he didn't enjoy it too much, did he?" (Does it bother anyone else that she proclaims in front of her best friend and "sister" that her fiance will enjoy it far more than he thinks?)

That last line of Morrigan's never really bothered me too much. I saw it as Morri trying to be comforting to Alistair (even if only for the benefit of her friend the Warden), but kinda failing because well, she's Morri and she's socially stunted.

I have to say doing the DR with Loghain really gave me a different perspective on the whole thing. Then it was less "Betch be stealin' my boyfriend and rubbing her fertility in my face!!" and more "Oh wow, you would do that for me, Morrigan? Way to take one for the team." Even though it isn't really altruistic on her part I still think she does want to help the Warden(s). If she likes you, that is. 

But on the whole I like that there is no 100% happy ending. I dig the "bittersweet" thing in stories.

For me, without at least one happy ending, once I've tried everything I don't go back to it.  A sad failing on my personality I know, but there it is.  

I agree, Morrigan was trying, in her own way, to comfort my character, but it really did not make me feel better.

I replay KOTRO still and JE, ME 1 and 2 I've been play almost continually since 1 came out and once the 3rd one comes out I will always be able to fall back on it if nothing new and as good comes out.  Or in a worse case scenerio I'll just replay 1 forever, but I have high hopes for ME3. 

[mopotter]

Blessed Silence wrote...

I will admit, as one who was a drooling Alistair fan before DA:O came out, I was a bit disappointed on how they made him a bit on the whiney side.  Now mind you, I am a girl who likes a man who realizes his vulnerabilities and limitations but come on man ... grow some gonads.

Morrigan ... ugh ... I refuse to even use her.  Once I tried my best to befriend her but all I wanted to do was slap her to come back to reality.  She just gets on my nerves.

Lelianna ... no.  Grates on my nerves.

Killed whatever the elf was ... heh forgot his name!

Hm ...

I am hoping at least for a half decent romance character.  I can't really describe what I would like .. it's like describing an emotion with words.  I did enjoy the relationships in ME2 especially with Tali.  She was nervous but still stood on her own.

I only just read the DA 2 article int he recent PC Gamer Game Informer magazine so I don't know much else so far.

My view on Alistair - he was fine.  I guess he could have just killed Morrigan when she hounded him, but then I wouldn't have liked the character.  I liked that he morned for Duncan, I liked his sense of humor.  I actually liked everything about him,l until  ending when he goes and gets drunk and just leaves, which I do not think he should have done when I compare it to other endings.  Go off and get drunk - fine.  but leave no.  After he wakes up form his drunken binge he should have apologized to his LI and agreed she was right, which he did to a non-love interest.  <Sigh>  So many things I found wrong with the ending.

Morrigan I found pretty interesting.  My husband played a couple of times and thought she was unpleasant (his words were a bit stronger), also wouldn't talk to her.    I liked hearing about her childhood.

Lelianna made me laugh, at least when we were discussing shoes.  And Zev.  Yes dear Zev.  I killed him a few times and romanced him twice.  The romance was ok, I just was not attracted to the Zev type.  

I'll probably be quite happy with the LI they give us.  But I do hope there are at least 4 options again.  

[Desken]

I'd like a nice personality change. Alistar was a little too whiney but very funny.

Zevran was damn hilarious.

I enjoyed the romancing just to hear the characters say the funniest things.

I liked Stan's personality, gives you the right challenge to conquer trust (beyond the fact he wasn't so appealing though).

Anders is another kind of male who was funny but had the right amount of drama to toy with.

[TaHol]

Masochist in me loves men who are broken. Can I have Raiden? No? Zevran no.2 at least?

[Dick Delaware]

Wait, how could you possibly be mad at Alistair? You, the PC, are the one that put him up to it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Thiefy]

alistair

cullen

gilmore

daveth



did anyone mention valen? i kinda skimmed throught the thread but saw a lot of "bishop bishop bishop, thane, bishop, than, bishop bishop" i mean valen shadowbreath from nwn hotu. i was a bnit surprised seeing his and nathyrra's alignments - did peg nathyrra as evil *anything* since she didn't really act all that evil and would have seen valen as more neutral than good. still i liked how things play out with valen, but was hoping to actually see his blood curse pop out at some point in time.



there should be a cross dressing man just for the lulz



oh but i did look up bishop because i havent played nwn2 and you know, i can kinda see why a lot of people liked him. i havent play the game but from the few clips i saw he just seemed more selfish than evil, really. i could actually understand a lot of the mentality behind him - didn't agree with it but could certainly understand it.

[Thiefy]

whoops.... double post demon

Modifié par Thief-of-Hearts, 26 juillet 2010 - 03:30 .

[tugatuga17]

SirOccam wrote...

tugatuga17 wrote...

leliana...
I finished the game with an affair with her and i did the ultimate sacrifice... in epilogue it says that she had another vision and told the waitress that she will see her love at last...

did she killed herself??

I think that is what it means. That was actually my first playthrough...but I just couldn't bear the guilt of that epilogue. I had to re-load.

i actualy did the same thing... i couldnt let her do that... :s

[Arttis]

What you women need it a male version of leliana.