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[mopotter]

Saibh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Voice appeal.  Definitely.  When I stop to think about it I can think of some voices with accents, i don't find appealing.  I think BioWare has done a great job in the past.  I'm looking forward to hearing the voices of Dragon Age 2.

I think Thane would have been just a teensy bit too alien for me, if he didn't have that voice. Garrus, too. Guys asks us why alien love interests can possibly appeal (since they figure Tali and Liara look human enough to not ask), and the way I feel is that, yeah, they might not look human, but neither does Shepard, not really. Everyone is pixels and polygons, and if Shepard is fake, than it doesn't bother me to see an alien in a fake relationship with.

If Thane or Garrus were a love interest in the live-action movie (obviously Shep's going to be male, but whatever), I think it'd start edging on "ew" territory. But, until then, it's the voice that makes all the difference.

Good point.  If either Garrus or Thane had sounded like Harkin with the tone he used, i would not have found them attractive.   

Live action movie with staring Shepard, not in my world.  I really hate the idea male or female. 

Back to romance.  Voices are very important.  

[mopotter]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Sokka from Avatar, whether it makes sense or not dammit!

i dont know anything about that show since its for kiddos but aren't all the characters underaged?

It's actually a good show.  My husband and I started watching it after my then 23 year old step-daughter and 26 year old son-in-law told us about it.  (he's now 30).   The romance in it is pretty much what you would expect.  I found it cute.  The story itself was good, and Sokka is adorable.  I think one birthday was celebrated but I'm not sure how old they were supposed to be at the end.  Not sure how long it took them to gather everyone up.  Sokka is around 15 at the beginning and a very bad warrior by the end he's a top warrior and I would guess around 17.

A more grown up Sokka would be pretty good for the good guy hero.  At least i wouldn't mind.

[mopotter]

Anarya wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Sokka from Avatar, whether it makes sense or not dammit!

i dont know anything about that show since its for kiddos but aren't all the characters underaged?

Why yes. Sokka is 15ish in fact.

Sokka was a little *too* goofy. Bordering on annoying. Maybe it was his VA, I dunno. But anyway, if you like animated shows at all don't dismiss it as being for kids. It's very good, and has appeal for all ages. Plenty of adults enjoyed it too.

One of those adults here.     I found him funny.  And I think he did grow up as the series went along.  i never really figured out if they covered all that ground in just a year, or if it took a couple of years.  

edit - back on topic.   - The character Azula would be an interesting romance.  Not for me because I'm not into nut cases, but she is cute, lacks empathy, treats people as expendable, and is unable to view them as her equals. Her amorality and ability to act without hesitation or remorse also accounts for her ability to create lightning, as the skill requires peace of mind.  With some twitches so she doesn't kill her LI this would be a complex character.  What made her this way, do you have to be always aware that if you show any weakness they will turn on you.

Modifié par mopotter, 27 juillet 2010 - 03:57 .

[Anarya]

mopotter wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Sokka from Avatar, whether it makes sense or not dammit!

i dont know anything about that show since its for kiddos but aren't all the characters underaged?

Why yes. Sokka is 15ish in fact.

Sokka was a little *too* goofy. Bordering on annoying. Maybe it was his VA, I dunno. But anyway, if you like animated shows at all don't dismiss it as being for kids. It's very good, and has appeal for all ages. Plenty of adults enjoyed it too.

One of those adults here.     I found him funny.  And I think he did grow up as the series went along.  i never really figured out if they covered all that ground in just a year, or if it took a couple of years.  

edit - back on topic.   - The character Azula would be an interesting romance.  Not for me because I'm not into nut cases, but she is cute, lacks empathy, treats people as expendable, and is unable to view them as her equals. Her amorality and ability to act without hesitation or remorse also accounts for her ability to create lightning, as the skill requires peace of mind.  With some twitches so she doesn't kill her LI this would be a complex character.  What made her this way, do you have to be always aware that if you show any weakness they will turn on you.

Oh I'm fully an adult who loved that show too. I can't get over how much Cassandra and Varric remind me of Azula and Iroh, looks-wise. Iroh was totally awesome.

[mopotter]

Anarya wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Sokka from Avatar, whether it makes sense or not dammit!

i dont know anything about that show since its for kiddos but aren't all the characters underaged?

Why yes. Sokka is 15ish in fact.

Sokka was a little *too* goofy. Bordering on annoying. Maybe it was his VA, I dunno. But anyway, if you like animated shows at all don't dismiss it as being for kids. It's very good, and has appeal for all ages. Plenty of adults enjoyed it too.

One of those adults here.     I found him funny.  And I think he did grow up as the series went along.  i never really figured out if they covered all that ground in just a year, or if it took a couple of years.  

edit - back on topic.   - The character Azula would be an interesting romance.  Not for me because I'm not into nut cases, but she is cute, lacks empathy, treats people as expendable, and is unable to view them as her equals. Her amorality and ability to act without hesitation or remorse also accounts for her ability to create lightning, as the skill requires peace of mind.  With some twitches so she doesn't kill her LI this would be a complex character.  What made her this way, do you have to be always aware that if you show any weakness they will turn on you.

Oh I'm fully an adult who loved that show too. I can't get over how much Cassandra and Varric remind me of Azula and Iroh, looks-wise. Iroh was totally awesome.

I would not mind a slightly younger Iroh.  I loved listening to him, sort of reminded me of Jolee from KOTOR with all of his stories and comments. 
Prince Zuko This city is a prison, i don't want to make a life here
Uncle Iroh: life happens wherever you are, whether you make it or not

Uncle Iroh:  euch! This tea is nothing more than hot leaf juice!
Prince Zuko:  Uncle, that's what ALL tea is.
Uncle Iroh:  How could a member of my own family say something so horrible!

Of course he has a dead son.  Perfect.  

[Anarya]

mopotter wrote...
Of course he has a dead son.  Perfect.  

LOL! I forgot all about that. You're right, he *is* perfect!

[AllThatJazz]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Saibh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Desken wrote...

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"Chick dig the accents", can't deny that. Love the scottish accent

I can't think of an accent I don't like.  Everything from the slight cowboy southern drawl, Scottish, Irish, English, French, and probably some I've never heard I'm sure I would like.  

Sometimes it's not the accents, it's the voices...of course, you can't have a "canon" voice to an accent, so its all about who's speaking it, really.

Yeah it's definitely a combination of voice and accent. Example: southern accent on that awful "god warrior" lady from Trading Spouses (you can probably find her on YouTube if you don't know who this is)? Terrible. Southern accent on Sawyer from Lost? *swoon*

That's because male accents are always better than female accents
then there's always *what* the person is saying that changes the mood as well

Hmmm, is that feeling true for straight guys/gay girls as well? I mean, I agree with you - I find men's accents vastly more attractive than women's, but is that just cos I fancy blokes? 

if i ever become a man or start to fancy women, i'll let you know

Would ya? Yer a love, thanks! 

[Riona45]

Saibh wrote...

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

Then why all the Twilight worship?

Er...not that I'm saying we're not healthy, adjusted individuals. We are. I am.

I haven't read the Twilight books, but personally I do believe that falling in love with an undead monster who feeds on the blood of the living has to be dangerous.  Or at least it should be--or why use a vampire character in the first place?

Having read a little about the Twilight fandom, there seem to be mixed views about whether or not Edward is a good person.  There are some who believe the Edward/Bella relationship is psychologically abusive and stalkerish.

PS:  As for myself, I'm well-adjusted, but I don't fantasize about "bad boys" for the reason I touched on before--if a "bad boy" isn't actually a good guy at heart, odds are high that a relationship with him would be abusive.

Modifié par Riona45, 27 juillet 2010 - 11:24 .

[Riona45]

Desken wrote...

Anders is another kind of male who was funny but had the right amount of drama to toy with.

And it doesn't hurt that he actually flirted with the PC a bit.

[Riona45]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Wait, how could you possibly be mad at Alistair? You, the PC, are the one that put him up to it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I agree with this.  I asked Alistair to sleep with Morrigan, and he obviously wasn't too keen on it but did as I asked.  When it was over, I didn't get even the tiniest hint that Alistair had stopped loving my PC as a result.

[Riona45]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...


did anyone mention valen? i kinda skimmed throught the thread but saw a lot of "bishop bishop bishop, thane, bishop, than, bishop bishop" i mean valen shadowbreath from nwn hotu.

I remember him and loved him.  But to be honest, I wasn't sure if anyone would remember him, or how many people here have even played HotU as I haven't seen it mentioned too much in general.

*feels a bit guilty*

Modifié par Riona45, 27 juillet 2010 - 11:29 .

[Riona45]

Saibh wrote...
I think Thane would have been just a teensy bit too alien for me, if he didn't have that voice. Garrus, too. Guys asks us why alien love interests can possibly appeal (since they figure Tali and Liara look human enough to not ask)...

What's hilarious about that is that they've never even seen Tali's face.

[Riona45]

Lilacs wrote...

When Morrigan approached me, I did not agrree with the ritual and Morrigan left my party.  Alistair made the ultimate sacrifice.

Understood, but the point is if Alistair does sleep with Morrigan, it's only because the PC asked him to do it.  With that in mind, it be a little unfair to call his action unforgivable if he was only doing what you persuaded him to do.

[thegoldfinch]

Y'know, on the subject of 'bad boys', I was watching a Deadliest Warrior episode (shut up, explosions are sexy) where there was a battle between Jesse James' cowboys and Al Capone's gangsters. I may or may not have fainted.

In one part, there was this slick gangster who hosted a fancy dinner in suits and fedoras for some people who were ratting him out to cops, leading them on to think that he didn't know about their betrayal... Until at the end of the dinner he stood up to make a toast, and then instead pulled out a FREAKING CANE and smashed their heads in as an example.

And now I seriously want a mobster-esque LI. How badass is he?! It's pure confidence. Evil, yeah duh, but this is a video game and I am allowed to act out impossible fantasies, thanks. Imagine getting involved with the head of a huge, notorious gang. Imagine not knowing that at first, getting involved, and then hearing the reveal. Maybe getting the chance to disband it through him or, alternatively, 'replace him'. Someone who's kind of a slick ladies man, sure of himself, sharp dressed, with a snappy wit, and, and, and... guhhhhdfhsdfhka.

Or like those cowboys. They don't need fluffy talk to tell you they love you. They'll shove you up against a wall and smother you with delicious, delicious testosterone. And then when you're all done, he'll cook up venison stew and biscuits over the camp fire without saying a word.
/fans self

/secretly goes back to playing more Red Dead Redemption

I hope I'm not alone in this. I really hope I'm not.

Modifié par pixieface, 28 juillet 2010 - 12:53 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

mopotter wrote...

I would not mind a slightly younger Iroh.  I loved listening to him, sort of reminded me of Jolee from KOTOR with all of his stories and comments. 
Prince Zuko This city is a prison, i don't want to make a life here
Uncle Iroh: life happens wherever you are, whether you make it or not

Uncle Iroh:  euch! This tea is nothing more than hot leaf juice!
Prince Zuko:  Uncle, that's what ALL tea is.
Uncle Iroh:  How could a member of my own family say something so horrible!

Of course he has a dead son.  Perfect.  

I'm trying to think of an Iroh who isn't old, jawsome, and wise, and it's just not on.  It's like trying to see a younger Jolee Bindo or a toddler Duncan without the beard.  Does not compute.  Though I agree that Iroh is epic win.  Still, my Avatar crushes are reserved for the eevil guys.  I loves me some Ozai 

Riona45 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I think the fact that we want a dangerous LI means that we are most likely NOT lonely creepers.  If we didn't have fulfilling, healthy social lives, we'd be craving more of Carth and Kaidan.  It's the fact that we already have plenty of sensitive, supportive lovers and friends that makes us want the "fantasy" of a bad boy.

Then why all the Twilight worship?

Er...not that I'm saying we're not healthy, adjusted individuals. We are. I am.

I haven't read the Twilight books, but personally I do believe that falling in love with an undead monster who feeds on the blood of the living has to be dangerous.  Or at least it should be--or why use a vampire character in the first place?

Having read a little about the Twilight fandom, there seem to be mixed views about whether or not Edward is a good person.  There are some who believe the Edward/Bella relationship is psychologically abusive and stalkerish.

PS:  As for myself, I'm well-adjusted, but I don't fantasize about "bad boys" for the reason I touched on before--if a "bad boy" isn't actually a good guy at heart, odds are high that a relationship with him would be abusive.

See, here's my beef with Twilight.  Edward has characteristics of a psychologically abusive, controlling, scary-ass freak who's patently NOT GOOD for the protagonist, but he's not played straight.  The book itself has no implications that this guy is bad news; on the contrary, his relationship with Bella is supposed to represent the ideal twue wuv.    

Compare to video games like BioWare or Obsidian's, or even the bad boys of Avatar.  It's made patently clear to us that guys like Ozai, Zhao, Bishop, and even Atton and Zevran to a certain extent are trouble with a capital T.  There's no attempt to sugarcoat them or imply that people like them are healthy or good for a relationship--quite the opposite, in fact.  So if we choose to romance them, we do so with the full understanding that these are dangerous, unstable men who don't make for the best relationships.  And we do it anyway for the roleplaying funsies 

[Anarya]

pixieface wrote...

Y'know, on the subject of 'bad boys', I was watching a Deadliest Warrior episode (shut up, explosions are sexy) where there was a battle between Jesse James' cowboys and Al Capone's gangsters. I may or may not have fainted.

In one part, there was this slick gangster who hosted a fancy dinner in suits and fedoras for some people who were ratting him out to cops, leading them on to think that he didn't know about their betrayal... Until at the end of the dinner he stood up to make a toast, and then instead pulled out a FREAKING CANE and smashed their heads in as an example.

And now I seriously want a mobster-esque LI. How badass is he?! It's pure confidence. Evil, yeah duh, but this is a video game and I am allowed to act out impossible fantasies, thanks. Imagine getting involved with the head of a huge, notorious gang. Imagine not knowing that at first, getting involved, and then hearing the reveal. Maybe getting the chance to disband it through him or, alternatively, 'replace him'. Someone who's kind of a slick ladies man, sure of himself, sharp dressed, with a snappy wit, and, and, and... guhhhhdfhsdfhka.

Or like those cowboys. They don't need fluffy talk to tell you they love you. They'll shove you up against a wall and smother you with delicious, delicious testosterone. And then when you're all done, he'll cook up venison stew and biscuits over the camp fire without saying a word.
/fans self

/secretly goes back to playing more Red Dead Redemption

I hope I'm not alone in this. I really hope I'm not.

A John Marston-like character would be pretty cool! He had a sexy voice (too bad he was pretty unattractive otherwise). I loved RDR.

[Anarya]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

See, here's my beef with Twilight.  Edward has characteristics of a psychologically abusive, controlling, scary-ass freak who's patently NOT GOOD for the protagonist, but he's not played straight.  The book itself has no implications that this guy is bad news; on the contrary, his relationship with Bella is supposed to represent the ideal twue wuv.    

Compare to video games like BioWare or Obsidian's, or even the bad boys of Avatar.  It's made patently clear to us that guys like Ozai, Zhao, Bishop, and even Atton and Zevran to a certain extent are trouble with a capital T.  There's no attempt to sugarcoat them or imply that people like them are healthy or good for a relationship--quite the opposite, in fact.  So if we choose to romance them, we do so with the full understanding that these are dangerous, unstable men who don't make for the best relationships.  And we do it anyway for the roleplaying funsies 

I think this is all due to the author's dysfunction. In her eyes it probably IS the most perfect ideal romance ever, while it comes off as creepy to many (myself definitely included).

Also I really, really don't understand the attraction to guys like Ozai or Sephiroth. I mean, unless it's a "only I can tame him" sort of deal, which I understand intellectually but just can't get into myself.

Modifié par Anarya, 28 juillet 2010 - 03:38 .

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Anomen.

[mllrthyme]

pixieface wrote...

Y'know, on the subject of 'bad boys', I was watching a Deadliest Warrior episode (shut up, explosions are sexy) where there was a battle between Jesse James' cowboys and Al Capone's gangsters. I may or may not have fainted.

Or like those cowboys. They don't need fluffy talk to tell you they love you. They'll shove you up against a wall and smother you with delicious, delicious testosterone. And then when you're all done, he'll cook up venison stew and biscuits over the camp fire without saying a word.
/fans self

/secretly goes back to playing more Red Dead Redemption

I hope I'm not alone in this. I really hope I'm not.

You are not alone in this.  I firmly believe there are few things sexier than a hard working man, especially when that man can fill out a pair of wranglers.

[Riona45]

pixieface wrote...


I hope I'm not alone in this. I really hope I'm not.

No.  But look what happened to Capone near the end of his life.

[Riona45]

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

Anomen.

He actually does have a fanbase.  I am among those who like him.  His romance makes him a much better character than when he remains unromanced.

[Riona45]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

See, here's my beef with Twilight.  Edward has characteristics of a psychologically abusive, controlling, scary-ass freak who's patently NOT GOOD for the protagonist, but he's not played straight.  The book itself has no implications that this guy is bad news; on the contrary, his relationship with Bella is supposed to represent the ideal twue wuv.    

LOL.  Yes, that is one complaint that I've read, and I must say it was argued for pretty convincingly.

[CalJones]

Ah, Twilight is an anti-sex before marriage book written by a mormon. What d'you expect?



And...not funny, Hardest Thing. I'd rather hammer tent pegs through my ear drums than have to listen to Anomen again. God I hated that man. Grrr.

[mllrthyme]

Riona45 wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

Anomen.

He actually does have a fanbase.  I am among those who like him.  His romance makes him a much better character than when he remains unromanced.

To me, Anomen seemed immature and holier-than-thou at first.  Granted, he did get less annoying as the game went on, and I actually liked the romance ending.  However, I only romanced him b/c he was the only romanceable character for women without a mod.  I always liked Keldorn, except he was married.  I thought he was engaging and acted appropriately when he found out his wife was cheating on him.  I thought he had a good side quest in that regard, as it seemed believable.

And I saw Valen mentioned earlier - I loved his character even if I didn't romance him every time, although that's more fun.  The dialogue between Valen and Deekin is hilarious and I like both characters better because of it.