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[mopotter]

Maria13 wrote...

Vladiostroke wrote...

A broken warrior in his 30ies or 40ies, quite serious with scars but with a great sense of judgement. Kinda like Kristoff but with another hairstyle, and not Alistairs hairstyle this time, preferably long hair.

This... Another character I really liked was Ser Otto...

That would be an interesting idea.  I also liked Ser Otto and he didn't need his eye sight to fight.  

[AllThatJazz]

mopotter wrote...

virumor wrote...

Has somebody mentioned Mr Darcy yet?

I liked some of her books, and Mr. Darcy was ok.  But I actually found Mr. Rochester more interesting.  Of course he did forget to mention the wife he already had when he asked Jane to marry him, but everyone has memory loss occasionally.

Rochester is one of my favourite romantic heroes from that era (marital amnesia aside, that is) - something to be said for dark and brooding, but not psychotic like Heathcliff! That said, Colin Firth as Darcy in the BBC adaptation of Pride & Prejudice looked damned fine in wet breeches - though I struggle to remember that particular scene in the book  

[ELE08]

Rochester>>Darcy. In Rochester's defense, his wife wasn't much of a wife when he took up with Jane. Is it cheating if your wife is a slobbering homicidal maniac you've stowed away in the attic?

Anyways, I think my avatar sums up my opinions on the topic.

I am a fan of dark conflicted characters who actually have good reason to be conflicted.  A broken or otherwise somehow damaged LI appeals to me much more than a straight forward good guy.

Modifié par ELE08, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:06 .

[Felfenix]

Love interest who is an evil mage guy, like a male Morrigan, please.

[AllThatJazz]

Felfenix wrote...

Love interest who is an evil mage guy, like a male Morrigan, please.

Like Edwin from Baldur's Gate? Or more 'wild'?

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:20 .

[Felfenix]

AllThatJazz wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

Love interest who is an evil mage guy, like a male Morrigan, please.

Like Edwin from Baldur's Gate? Or more 'wild'?

Well, maybe not that evil... I just want something diff from the same old "whiny nice guy" archetype they keep forcing down our throats with EVERY single male LI in seemingly EVERY Bioware game lately.

[phaonica]

Games4ever wrote...

Girls you need This guy in DA2

cool song by the way :-)

Ok, yeah, I'd go for him.

mopotter wrote...

Maria13 wrote...

Vladiostroke wrote...

A broken warrior in his 30ies or 40ies, quite serious with scars but with a great sense of judgement. Kinda like Kristoff but with another hairstyle, and not Alistairs hairstyle this time, preferably long hair.

This... Another character I really liked was Ser Otto...

That would be an interesting idea.  I also liked Ser Otto and he didn't need his eye sight to fight.  

Oooh, yeah. Ser Otto, or Ser Bryant. Those are two templars I'd like to get to know better.

[Sable Rhapsody]

mopotter wrote...

OldMan91 wrote...

"Oh, he's jealous, that means he cares about me!"

Which reminds me of Gaider's comment on Cullen regarding his infatuation with the female mage.

"You're so precious to me, I want to keep you in this tower... FOREVER."

Did he say that?  I knew he liked my mage and that he had some infatuation vs how he's been trained issues, but missed this.

No, Cullen doesn't say it in-game.  Many of the girls on Swooping is Bad are Cullen fans, Andraste's knickerweasels know why   One of them asked for a Cullenmance on behalf of the Swooper community, and this was Gaider's reply:

If I wrote a Cullen "romance" it'd have to be creepy as hell.


Cullen: I just want you to know... I love you.
PC: I love you, too.
Cullen: No, no... I REALLY love you!
PC: Er... and I love you, too.
Cullen: You don't understand! I think about you all the time, every waking moment! I look at you and I... I want to touch your skin! I want to brush your hair!
PC: I don't...
Cullen: Ever since I saw you in the mage tower I wanted to protect you. Keep you somewhere safe. FOREVER.
PC: ...
PC: ...awkward.

Same thread also included this gem : 

Tassiaw wrote...
Cullen: You're like my own personal brand of lyrium.

There is only one line that could possibly follow this, you know:

Cullen: I WANT TO SNORT YOU

Oh David Gaider.  You so cool.  And I SOOOOO agree with you.  Mage/templar relationships are creepy as all hell.  Alistair doesn't count, because he was the world's dopiest creature...and probably would have been the worst templar ever.

[Felfenix]

That Cullen romance doesn't sound that much more creepy than a lot of Bioware romances.

Carth: I... I wanna protect you... I NEED to protect you... like my dead wife, you see? Yes... DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT TO BETRAY ME!

Modifié par Felfenix, 30 juillet 2010 - 08:11 .

[Maria13]

Templar to mage:



"Every breath you take

Every move you make

Every vow you break

Every step you take...

I'll be watching you..."

[Saibh]

Felfenix wrote...

That Cullen romance doesn't sound that much more creepy than a lot of Bioware romances.

Carth: I... I wanna protect you... I NEED to protect you... like my dead wife, you see? Yes... DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT TO BETRAY ME!

Except Cullen's job is to kill you if you twitch wrong and he goes bat**** crazy at the Circle Tower. I think pre-Broken Circle he's not that bad, but it's just an incredibly unequal relationship. It's like dating your boss, and then you might try to break up with your boss, only this time, instead of getting fired, he can call you an unholy abomination and lop off your head.

The way they handled his character was cute, with slight overtones of creepy. I liked it.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Saibh wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

That Cullen romance doesn't sound that much more creepy than a lot of Bioware romances.

Carth: I... I wanna protect you... I NEED to protect you... like my dead wife, you see? Yes... DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT TO BETRAY ME!

Except Cullen's job is to kill you if you twitch wrong and he goes bat**** crazy at the Circle Tower. I think pre-Broken Circle he's not that bad, but it's just an incredibly unequal relationship. It's like dating your boss, and then you might try to break up with your boss, only this time, instead of getting fired, he can call you an unholy abomination and lop off your head.

The way they handled his character was cute, with slight overtones of creepy. I liked it.

  Quite some boss.

Yeah, the power imbalance is what I find disconcerting in mage/templar relationships.  And as for Carth, I find most relationships featuring Carth's dead-love-estranged-child syndrome to be very creepy at best, and insufferably annoying to the point of me killing off the NPC at worst.  

[mopotter]

AllThatJazz wrote...

mopotter wrote...

virumor wrote...

Has somebody mentioned Mr Darcy yet?

I liked some of her books, and Mr. Darcy was ok.  But I actually found Mr. Rochester more interesting.  Of course he did forget to mention the wife he already had when he asked Jane to marry him, but everyone has memory loss occasionally.

Rochester is one of my favourite romantic heroes from that era (marital amnesia aside, that is) - something to be said for dark and brooding, but not psychotic like Heathcliff! That said, Colin Firth as Darcy in the BBC adaptation of Pride & Prejudice looked damned fine in wet breeches - though I struggle to remember that particular scene in the book  

Yes I have to admit a Colin Firth Mr. Darcy does make me think it would be a great idea to have him as a LI.  or of course a video game character in that style.  

[mopotter]

Felfenix wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

Love interest who is an evil mage guy, like a male Morrigan, please.

Like Edwin from Baldur's Gate? Or more 'wild'?

Well, maybe not that evil... I just want something diff from the same old "whiny nice guy" archetype they keep forcing down our throats with EVERY single male LI in seemingly EVERY Bioware game lately.

Well as long as I get a "nice, funny,  guy with or without dead wife/kid, your welcome to someone like Edwin but not as evil if thats what you want.  

I like the bioware guys.  They all give me what I want in a video romance.  funny, kind, good at whatever they are supposed to do, sword, gun, hand-to-hand and they make me laugh and smile.  I definitely hope BioWare gives us both. 

[mopotter]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

mopotter wrote...

OldMan91 wrote...

"Oh, he's jealous, that means he cares about me!"

Which reminds me of Gaider's comment on Cullen regarding his infatuation with the female mage.

"You're so precious to me, I want to keep you in this tower... FOREVER."

Did he say that?  I knew he liked my mage and that he had some infatuation vs how he's been trained issues, but missed this.

No, Cullen doesn't say it in-game.  Many of the girls on Swooping is Bad are Cullen fans, Andraste's knickerweasels know why   One of them asked for a Cullenmance on behalf of the Swooper community, and this was Gaider's reply:

If I wrote a Cullen "romance" it'd have to be creepy as hell.


Cullen: I just want you to know... I love you.
PC: I love you, too.
Cullen: No, no... I REALLY love you!
PC: Er... and I love you, too.
Cullen: You don't understand! I think about you all the time, every waking moment! I look at you and I... I want to touch your skin! I want to brush your hair!
PC: I don't...
Cullen: Ever since I saw you in the mage tower I wanted to protect you. Keep you somewhere safe. FOREVER.
PC: ...
PC: ...awkward.

Same thread also included this gem : 

Tassiaw wrote...
Cullen: You're like my own personal brand of lyrium.

There is only one line that could possibly follow this, you know:

Cullen: I WANT TO SNORT YOU

Oh David Gaider.  You so cool.  And I SOOOOO agree with you.  Mage/templar relationships are creepy as all hell.  Alistair doesn't count, because he was the world's dopiest creature...and probably would have been the worst templar ever.

I love David Gaider, Not in a creepy way  .  He should write himself as LI.    He definitely has the humor. 

[mopotter]

Maria13 wrote...

Templar to mage:

"Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every step you take...
I'll be watching you..."

I've read that this is a popular wedding 1st dance song.  Makes me wonder.

[mopotter]

Felfenix wrote...

That Cullen romance doesn't sound that much more creepy than a lot of Bioware romances.

Carth: I... I wanna protect you... I NEED to protect you... like my dead wife, you see? Yes... DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT TO BETRAY ME!

Carth/Revan have some of the best romantic teasing out there.   I also liked the Bastila teasing. 

And didn't bother me at all to be compared to his dead wife, who he loved.  I also was quite happy to have him say he wanted to protect me because he knew he didn't need to.  

Yes I'm a Carth fan and continue to play through KOTOR every now and then.  I was very irritated that Revan/Bastela got a black out screen and Carth/Revan got a... well Mission telling them to get a room.  

[Saraphial]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

That Cullen romance doesn't sound that much more creepy than a lot of Bioware romances.

Carth: I... I wanna protect you... I NEED to protect you... like my dead wife, you see? Yes... DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT TO BETRAY ME!

Except Cullen's job is to kill you if you twitch wrong and he goes bat**** crazy at the Circle Tower. I think pre-Broken Circle he's not that bad, but it's just an incredibly unequal relationship. It's like dating your boss, and then you might try to break up with your boss, only this time, instead of getting fired, he can call you an unholy abomination and lop off your head.

The way they handled his character was cute, with slight overtones of creepy. I liked it.

  Quite some boss.

Yeah, the power imbalance is what I find disconcerting in mage/templar relationships.  And as for Carth, I find most relationships featuring Carth's dead-love-estranged-child syndrome to be very creepy at best, and insufferably annoying to the point of me killing off the NPC at worst.  

I actually never thought the Mage/templar relationships were creepy I just thought Cullen was creepy. I think if the character isn't a crazy lunatic -cough- (Cullen) it would actually add to the whole drama aspect of the game. Yay, for controversy!   

[mllrthyme]

I know this is a bit off topic, but I just have to say I love this thread! I check it almost every day so I can giggle stupidly, like a drunken fangirl.

[Saibh]

mllrthyme wrote...

I know this is a bit off topic, but I just have to say I love this thread! I check it almost every day so I can giggle stupidly, like a drunken fangirl.

I like it because it's fangirling for everyone! It's like...just "Are you a fangirl? What do you like?". Not devoted to one single character or anything.

Plus we (well, I) get to vent our rage about dead-wife-replacement syndrome!

[mllrthyme]

Oh man, I'm so sick of playing second fiddle to a dead wives, dead sister, estranged son, accidental death, loss of a father figure (did I get them all?). I believed that flawed characters are more interesting, but can't they handle their own issues and save me the therapist role? I mean, they can handle a horde of darkspawn. Why do they need my PC to provide them with insight and self assurance? Oy! GIVE ME MORE VARIETY!!!

*sighs* Okay, I feel better now.

[Riona45]

phaonica wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

phaonica wrote...
I prefer that darkness in an LI. That darkness makes the difference between a gentleman like Bann Teagan and a gentleman like Nathaniel Howe.

To be fair, we didn't get to know Bann Teagan the way we got to know Loghain and Nathaniel (not that I think Loghain and Nathaniel are at all on the same level in terms of "darkness").

I suppose Teagan might have a darkness too, but I can only comment on what we're actually presented with. We only marginally got to know Nathaniel any better than Teagan, though, imo.

That's a fair point.  I got the impression that overall, Nathaniel was a decent person and not much at all like his father (or even Loghain for that matter), but then again, I'm quite biased. 

That's why I compared the two. I'm not saying that Teagan is bad as a romance option, just that he's not the kind of option that I prefer.

I understand--reading about other preferences is what makes this thread so interesting for me.

[Sable Rhapsody]

mllrthyme wrote...

Oh man, I'm so sick of playing second fiddle to a dead wives, dead sister, estranged son, accidental death, loss of a father figure (did I get them all?). I believed that flawed characters are more interesting, but can't they handle their own issues and save me the therapist role? I mean, they can handle a horde of darkspawn. Why do they need my PC to provide them with insight and self assurance? Oy! GIVE ME MORE VARIETY!!!
*sighs* Okay, I feel better now.

There's a group of us here.  Girls Against Carth Syndrome.  Join us in the shadows, where we stand vigilant against Carth Syndrome! http://social.bioware.com/group/1163/

The Carth Syndrome is one variant of a kind of romance that I find both creepy and downright un-fun, almost without exception--the dreaded therapymance.  I'm a freaking hero(ine).  I'm a Jedi, Sith, Warden, Bhaalspawn, Knight Captain, Spectre, etc.  I kick ass, take names, make friends, make enemies, make love, save the known universe, shoot lightning at fools, and do it all with epic style.  Nowhere in my job description is "psychologist for crazy people."  

NPCs, I will happily be your friend or even lover.  I will snipe, spill drinks on the Citadel, snark, eat cheese, sing songs, hunt devils, and consult space hamsters with you.  I'll be a shoulder to cry on; I will support and enable your growth as a person to the best of my ability.  Because that's what friends do.  But I will not be your therapist.  I will not sit there and listen to you whine incessantly about your dead spouse, estranged child, daddy issues, mommy issues, dead dog, or toe bunions.  I will happily help you find a therapist, but if you can't deal with your problems in a reasonably constructive manner without sobbing on my shoulder every other conversation, I'm kicking you out.  You're just not cool enough to be around me.  END OF LINE.

[Riona45]

Maria13 wrote...

It is no secret, I like Alistair, big boy, tender heart, witty and great sense of humour.

But... Why not give us a choice? Lot's of choices bad boys, mages... Older, younger...

Well yes, choice is definitely ideal.  I do think BioWare has in general moved in the direction of giving us some choice (if not oodles of choices), so I'm not too worried about this.

[Riona45]

mopotter wrote...

DIONAPERSSON wrote...

 alistair like character where you fight over him with an old flame!    

You really want to fight over a guy?  Why.  I've never understood this.  if my guy wants me to fight over him, he'd not worth my time.      

That's pretty much what I was thinking.  I mean, I'm not against putting less-than-ideal choices in a game, but I definitely don't see the appeal.