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Decided to rewrite the character, Pirate romance take 2!

As you're escaping from Lothering, you arrive to a filthy port filled with nothing but pirates and thugs. As you're walking around looking for safe passage, you're introduced to how dark the underbelly of this place is as you find men being knifed on open streets and nobody stopping them. You're on the search for a boat to grant safe passage out of Ferelden for whatever reason the writers decide that you're leaving Ferelden for.

There's a lot of ships and crew but they all appear lecherous and demand extremely high gold sums that your character is uncapable of achieving at that time of the game (such as 200 or 300g) leaving you effectively stranded in the unsafe port. It's getting dark and you and Bethany head off to the local inn for the night after having not much success with the local captains.

In the inn, a pirate is sitting at the corner of the bar chatting up and flirting with the bartender while drinking from a bottle of alcohol (let's just pretend it's a bottle of dwarven ale), multiple thugs appear and demand for the money that the pirate owes their local crimeboss. I'd rather not start a bar fight where you help out in this scene because then that would be too similar to Leliana, so instead of having the fight break out in an actual brawl he just smashes his bottle of ale and guts the three or so thugs that were threatening him. He smashes the rest of the bottle on the floor, gives his apologies to the bartender who is frightened of him and walks out. If you're female, he greets you and Bethany with "Ladies." as he walks out while if you're male he simply looks at Bethany before walking out.

The next day as you're walking through the streets talking with multiple more captains, he approaches you and says he heard that you and your "attractive" sister are looking for safe passage out of Ferelden. He gives you an offer; the local crime lord is getting too involved in his own personal matters and says that he'll grant you safe passage if you "help" him with his problem. He explains that he or his crew can't deal with it because as soon as they approach the thug district, the crime lord is immediately warned and goes into hiding.

You can argue morality and such with him and Bethany but there isn't much of an alternative out of Ferelden so you're forced to accept the task, although how you resolve the "help" is completely dependant on you. You attack the thug's stronghold in the port and eventually find the crime lord, how you deal with him is dependant on how you want it; you either kill him or let him live as long as he "gets out of here". Either way, the pirate is grateful (although if you let the crime lord live, he'll question your judgement) and says that he'll hold up to his end of the bargain and take you to the Free Marshes.

On the trip to the Free Marshes, you and Bethany (only Bethany if male) are harassed by a few crew members who seek for "extra" payment. You can threaten them or whatever but either way the captain will come down and use his sword to run through the crew members involved, he apologizes to you for the disturbance and says he doesn't tolerate such behavior with his crewmen.

Once you're finished with the trip, he decides to let his crew deal with the boat as he'll help you two out as payment for the incident on the boat, he gives you a note and says that he has a few black market contacts in the local general store and that they'll give you supplies for getting around in the Free Marshes. This is how you get the camp, you get some basic equipment for fighting and a few health poultices.

In a "meanwhile" cutscene (think the cutscene where you see Loghain hiring Zevran) you're sent into the local pub, a few thugs are drinking in the corner and watch the captain walk in. The captain decides to sit down and begins to chat up with a few ladies, he becomes extremely boastful and says that he's the one responsible for the crime lord in Ferelden to be killed / on the run (adding another flaw to his character) and that nobody can stop him or his crew, the women in the pug begin laughing and are deeply interested in him; enough that he doesn't realise the thugs that were listening walk out of the bar.

As you come out of the general store, you bear witness to a great fire near the sea and as you arrive you find the captain's ship to be aflame with the corpses of all his crewmen to be found in the water around it. The captain comes out with the women and realises the flame before running near you and screaming in horror and disbelief, says that the crew and the boat was all he had and he doesn't realise what happened. The thugs are watching in the corner with their weapons unsheathed but enjoy watching his misery and leave him be.

You or Bethany can try to soothe him over the situation, he pleads with you to be allowed to join with you two because he doesn't know where he belongs in the world and that he wants to be "anywhere but here". If you don't allow him to come along, he becomes extremely saddened but says he understands and re-enters the inn and found in the corner alone drinking (allowing you another chance to recruit him, although he's drunk this time).

If you bring him with you, he eventually explains to you that he was a pirate his entire life and that his parents were also pirates and that he's unaware of everything in the world except for the sea. You can introduce him in the world and show him things he'd never imagined existed, he slowly gets over the loss of his crew and ship and becomes glad that it made him meet you two. Although this would take a few years in the game's ten year time table, can't happen overnight. Although, on your insistance, he could still decide that pirate life was superior (essentially, him being "hardened") 

He'd have his own personal sidequest later on that would involve him avenging his crewmates and depending on if you let the crime lord escape at the start, the crime lord would be there once again. Once you've dealt with it, he either says that his entire past is behind him now and he can move towards the future (non-hardened) or towards restarting his life of pirating (hardened).

He approves of violence against people who deserve it (like anybody that attacks you and you're given a chance to spare) and profiteering. He disapproves of violence against innocent people and helping lawful people (such as helping a templar hunt down a mage or a guard to arrest a criminal) because he values freedom.

Just for extra romance potential, you could push him and Bethany to get together.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 06 août 2010 - 06:44 .


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@Alora & Kerridan:

On the subject of Loghain fanfiction, I definitely second "The Keening Blade." I absolutely laugh out loud at it sometimes... great, great, funny story. I really need to stop being a bad reader and leave a review for the thing, but I digress. Haven't read "Victory at Ostagar" yet.

But I wanted to butt in and add that there's another awesome Loghain fic that I didn't see listed: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/97/index/1021278

Maeves_Child started a wonderful thread for her Loghain fanart and fanfiction. Her "Sensible Creatures" was the first Loghain-centric fic I read and, honestly, it made me take a harder look at Loghain and I quickly climbed aboard the Loghain Love Train after that. Highly recommended! Posted Image

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@DragonRacer13 - I totally read Sensible Creatures but didn't finish it. I just get bogged down by so much stuff I just forgot about it. I feel bad about it now because it had me hooked. I'll have to go back and read the rest.



@Dave of Canada - You could totally make a mod for that. It just seems so damn interesting and something I would go though with to see a possible conclusion.



@Alora - I know. I just wanted to see what that Alistair would be like along with the concept art. The art had me head over heels to be honest.

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Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

@Dave of Canada - You could totally make a mod for that. It just seems so damn interesting and something I would


I'm one of those "console gamers" that people hate so much, I wouldn't be able to make a mod. :(

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

@Dave of Canada - You could totally make a mod for that. It just seems so damn interesting and something I would


I'm one of those "console gamers" that people hate so much, I wouldn't be able to make a mod. :(


Oh please. It's just that you seem to have a lot of material and that's just for one character. You have a quest, a new character, a thought out progression. Everything. I personally think it works.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

@Dave of Canada - You could totally make a mod for that. It just seems so damn interesting and something I would


I'm one of those "console gamers" that people hate so much, I wouldn't be able to make a mod. :(


David, I'm also one of the hated console gamers, at least most of my games are on the console, I have 2 on my pc.  I liked your story a lot.  Very nice.  It's too bad they don't come up with a tool system for the consoles.  

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I don't hate you guys. I just hate the influence your kind have had over gaming trends. ;)

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OooooooooooooooO

Thank You DragonRacer for the link! I checked out the fanart.... *SWOON*

Added the story to my Favourites which I will check out tonight over a glass of wine. Posted Image

Aye, "The Keening Blade" is truly a magnificent piece, filled with many comical situations and the Warden character of Maude is... is so... so... ugh... I don't even know where and how to begin to describe her. Just love her craziness to pieces!

I highly recommend "Victory at Ostagar" as well. It has a much more somber mood, akin to the game experience itself, although Arsinoe does such a splendidly wonderful job of getting into characters heads and describing their thought processes, while IMHO staying true to those characters.  She really is a talented writer.

On a related note... it seems we have another talenter writer in our midsts. Dave, I'm really loving your story and can definitely see myself being attracted to the pirate captain. He's a character I would very much enjoy getting to know better, getting through all the layers that make up his persona. I love it! Posted Image

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the_one_54321 wrote...

I don't hate you guys. I just hate the influence your kind have had over gaming trends. ;)


Not wanting to start a debate but I've been told that PC gamers are 99% smarter than console gamers and that we shouldn't exist because PC gaming is where it started.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

I don't hate you guys. I just hate the influence your kind have had over gaming trends. ;)


Not wanting to start a debate but I've been told that PC gamers are 99% smarter than console gamers and that we shouldn't exist because PC gaming is where it started.


i was told to go kill myself because pc gaming would be too old and we all should only play on consoles cuz consoles "obviously" are better. those are just idiots who actually have fun yelling at someone else because theyre not able to get rid of their agressions in real life or something....

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Dave of Canada wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...
I don't hate you guys. I just hate the influence your kind have had over gaming trends. ;)

Not wanting to start a debate but I've been told that PC gamers are 99% smarter than console gamers and that we shouldn't exist because PC gaming is where it started.

Well I've never told anyone that. I just hate the resulting market trends following popularity, and I wish they would stop.

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iTomes wrote...

i was told to go kill myself because pc gaming would be too old and we all should only play on consoles cuz consoles "obviously" are better. those are just idiots who actually have fun yelling at someone else because theyre not able to get rid of their agressions in real life or something....


Yeah, Xbox live is a horrible place. Although, these boards seem to have a PC-dominated fanbase. Thus, I'm the hated minority. :(

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Dave of Canada wrote...

iTomes wrote...

i was told to go kill myself because pc gaming would be too old and we all should only play on consoles cuz consoles "obviously" are better. those are just idiots who actually have fun yelling at someone else because theyre not able to get rid of their agressions in real life or something....


Yeah, Xbox live is a horrible place. Although, these boards seem to have a PC-dominated fanbase. Thus, I'm the hated minority. :(

mhhh, wouldn't say that. the most that just unprovoked start yelling "i hate console gamers go kill yourself GTFO blabla etc etc." are just trolls. the most dont dislike those who play on a console, but the console itself. many (me included) just dont get why it has so strange controlls that really make the gameplay of the most games released pretty hard.  that DOESN'T mean we dislike those who play on consoles. i actually dont know one who said "all console players are weak ...s and etc. etc." and who is still in the forums posting that...

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Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.


I love him.  He reminds me of Saemon Havarian from BG, but distinctly less prone to slime and constant backstabbery syndrome.  He has badass qualities, bad boy qualities, but he's got plenty of room for character development and change.  Though the idea of all the pirates overcharging everyone that much gold stretches credulity a little; there are probably lots of refugees pouring out of Ferelden.  Cheaper rates that more people could pay might be better for the pirate folk.  Still, it's a video game.  Plot rails are a necessity.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.


I love him.  He reminds me of Saemon Havarian from BG, but distinctly less prone to slime and constant backstabbery syndrome.  He has badass qualities, bad boy qualities, but he's got plenty of room for character development and change.  Though the idea of all the pirates overcharging everyone that much gold stretches credulity a little; there are probably lots of refugees pouring out of Ferelden.  Cheaper rates that more people could pay might be better for the pirate folk.  Still, it's a video game.  Plot rails are a necessity.



Way I see it:
It's a time of war where people want to leave Ferelden. Sky rocket the prices and the really desperate people would still pay it, charging cheap wouldn't change much and would effectively still cost a lot for supplies and crew and you'd be working around the clock.

It's like that man in Lothering who rose his prices pretty high and the Matron was angry at him for doing so, he was exploiting the fear and weakness of the weak.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.


well, youre character is surely absolutely great and has a giaaaaant potential, but well need a way to bring him into the game at another point. i want isabela or whatever that chicks name in the pearl was (the one who taught you how to become a duelist) for the ride over to kirkwall...

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.


I love him.  He reminds me of Saemon Havarian from BG, but distinctly less prone to slime and constant backstabbery syndrome.  He has badass qualities, bad boy qualities, but he's got plenty of room for character development and change.  Though the idea of all the pirates overcharging everyone that much gold stretches credulity a little; there are probably lots of refugees pouring out of Ferelden.  Cheaper rates that more people could pay might be better for the pirate folk.  Still, it's a video game.  Plot rails are a necessity.



Way I see it:
It's a time of war where people want to leave Ferelden. Sky rocket the prices and the really desperate people would still pay it, charging cheap wouldn't change much and would effectively still cost a lot for supplies and crew and you'd be working around the clock.

It's like that man in Lothering who rose his prices pretty high and the Matron was angry at him for doing so, he was exploiting the fear and weakness of the weak.


Yup, agree with you there. I live in Florida, and it's amazing how the cost of plywood and generators suddenly and magically increases when a hurricane is projected to be coming our way. Hmm, funny how that happens, eh? Posted Image

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Back on topic, at least the second version of the same character is better received.


I love him.  He reminds me of Saemon Havarian from BG, but distinctly less prone to slime and constant backstabbery syndrome.  He has badass qualities, bad boy qualities, but he's got plenty of room for character development and change.  Though the idea of all the pirates overcharging everyone that much gold stretches credulity a little; there are probably lots of refugees pouring out of Ferelden.  Cheaper rates that more people could pay might be better for the pirate folk.  Still, it's a video game.  Plot rails are a necessity.



Way I see it:
It's a time of war where people want to leave Ferelden. Sky rocket the prices and the really desperate people would still pay it, charging cheap wouldn't change much and would effectively still cost a lot for supplies and crew and you'd be working around the clock.

It's like that man in Lothering who rose his prices pretty high and the Matron was angry at him for doing so, he was exploiting the fear and weakness of the weak.


True, but he didn't raise his prices to approximately the total amount of gold accrued in the game ^_^  Maybe something like 30-40 gold would be more appropriate.  More realistic, but still beyond the player's reasonable means.  And hey, if they want to kill wolves for twenty hours to work up that gold, sure they can hop on another pirate's ship.  They just miss out on your sexy pirate, like they do if they kill Zev.

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There should be a male LI whose face is patterned after, and voiced by Kirk Acevedo. This dude;



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Any man as long as it's Tom Hardy.

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Any man as long as it's Tom Hardy.


This.. what? *brain explodes*

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Any man as long as it's Tom Hardy.


This.. what? *brain explodes*


No idea. Didn't read any of the thread. Just read the title and thought I would say a blokes name. You know, as a woman, what type of male character I would want.

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Any man as long as it's Tom Hardy.


This.. what? *brain explodes*


No idea. Didn't read any of the thread. Just read the title and thought I would say a blokes name. You know, as a woman, what type of male character I would want.


My brain exploded because of the way it was worded. :P

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Any man as long as it's Tom Hardy.


This.. what? *brain explodes*


No idea. Didn't read any of the thread. Just read the title and thought I would say a blokes name. You know, as a woman, what type of male character I would want.


My brain exploded because of the way it was worded. :P

Ohhh, lmao. I have a bit of a fangirl crush on Tom Hardy at the moment and want him everywhere I turn... Posted Image

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