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[TheSpaceKraken]

I have seen it done and want to do so myself, but during the landsmeet when I ask Alistair if they wanted to marry he doesn't say he'll quit the Grey Wardens to marry Anora. This forces me to choose between them.  I have full coercion and vividly remember hardening Alistair.  Are there any more requirements I am supposed to meet?

[Zjarcal]

Did you try to arrange the marriage prior to the Landsmeet?

[beggargirl]

"when I ask Alistair if they wanted to marry he doesn't say he'll quit the Grey Wardens to marry Anora"



Huh? Have you recruited Logain? What happens in your landsmeet?

[saruman85]

You probably did, but I'll ask it anyway: did you get Alistair and Anora to agree to the marriage in Arl Eamon's estate previously? As in Anora -> Alistair -> BACK to Anora again?



And did you whack Loghain yourself and not have Alistair do it?

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

"when I ask Alistair if they wanted to marry he doesn't say he'll quit the Grey Wardens to marry Anora"

Huh? Have you recruited Logain? What happens in your landsmeet?

Yes, I spared Loghain and when that happens Alistair gets all pissy and you have to pick between Anora and Alistair or remind them that they wanted to marry.

[TheSpaceKraken]

saruman85 wrote...

You probably did, but I'll ask it anyway: did you get Alistair and Anora to agree to the marriage in Arl Eamon's estate previously? As in Anora -> Alistair -> BACK to Anora again?

And did you whack Loghain yourself and not have Alistair do it?

Yes, to all of that.  Though I might have to go back and check if I told Anora that Alistair agreed.

[beggargirl]

TheSpaceKraken wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

"when I ask Alistair if they wanted to marry he doesn't say he'll quit the Grey Wardens to marry Anora"

Huh? Have you recruited Logain? What happens in your landsmeet?

Yes, I spared Loghain and when that happens Alistair gets all pissy and you have to pick between Anora and Alistair or remind them that they wanted to marry.

And if you remind them they are supposed to marry you get what you wanted.  They marry and you have recruited Logain.

That is what you wanted yes?

[Sarah1281]

I think you can do it without getting them to agree by saying 'I thought the two of you could marry' but that might be just a 'in case of Loghain death' option.

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

TheSpaceKraken wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

"when I ask Alistair if they wanted to marry he doesn't say he'll quit the Grey Wardens to marry Anora"

Huh? Have you recruited Logain? What happens in your landsmeet?

Yes, I spared Loghain and when that happens Alistair gets all pissy and you have to pick between Anora and Alistair or remind them that they wanted to marry.

And if you remind them they are supposed to marry you get what you wanted.  They marry and you have recruited Logain.

That is what you wanted yes?

This is what I want, yes.  But Alistair wont marry Anora even though I had already talked to them about it.

[beggargirl]

Either he isn't hardened, or you didn't get them to agree to it beforehand.

[beggargirl]

Or maybe your coersion is not high enough? *shrugs*



What exactly does Alistair say when you say "I thought you two were going to marry?"

[TheSpaceKraken]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I think you can do it without getting them to agree by saying 'I thought the two of you could marry' but that might be just a 'in case of Loghain death' option.

I don't plan on going with the DR and so I'm trying to recruit Loghain to use as a sacrifice.  I also want Alistair to stay alive.

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

Or maybe your coersion is not high enough? *shrugs*

What exactly does Alistair say when you say "I thought you two were going to marry?"

My coercion is full.


After Anora says "Alistair compose yourself!" he doesnt respond like he does in the video at around 2:10.  That or Anora doesn't even say "Alistair compose yourself!"

The first line is always the same though.

Edit: On my playthrough Anora actually says that Ferelden is better of without Alistair instead of telling him to compose himself.

I must have failed to harden him, not thinking about how I wanted to end the game.  No saves far back enough either so my only option is to do a speed run to require the desired ending.

Modifié par TheSpaceKraken, 22 juillet 2010 - 09:02 .

[beggargirl]

TheSpaceKraken wrote....

After Anora says "Alistair compose yourself!" he doesnt respond like he does in the video at around 2:10.  That or Anora doesn't even say "Alistair compose yourself!"

The first line is always the same though.

What does he SAY and DO on your game.  All you are saying is what he doesn't do.

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

TheSpaceKraken wrote....

After Anora says "Alistair compose yourself!" he doesnt respond like he does in the video at around 2:10.  That or Anora doesn't even say "Alistair compose yourself!"

The first line is always the same though.

What does he SAY and DO on your game.  All you are saying is what he doesn't do.

He stays facing Anora in my game when he should turn away from her.

[Sarah1281]

TheSpaceKraken wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

TheSpaceKraken wrote....

After Anora says "Alistair compose yourself!" he doesnt respond like he does in the video at around 2:10.  That or Anora doesn't even say "Alistair compose yourself!"

The first line is always the same though.

What does he SAY and DO on your game.  All you are saying is what he doesn't do.

He stays facing Anora in my game when he should turn away from her.

That's not really very helpful. Does it get to the point where Alistair demands to be King so he can kill Loghain and she accuses him of being childish? Can you say 'I thought you two were going to rule together'? If so, what does either one of them say about it? 

[beggargirl]

TheSpaceKraken wrote...
He stays facing Anora in my game when he should turn away from her.

*runs away screaming from this thread*

[TheSpaceKraken]

Sarah1281 wrote...

 That's not really very helpful. Does it get to the point where Alistair demands to be King so he can kill Loghain and she accuses him of being childish? Can you say 'I thought you two were going to rule together'? If so, what does either one of them say about it? 

Yes, Alistair demands to be king, Anora accuses him of being childish, and I can remind them that the plan was that they rule together.  Then Alistair says that the plan was also to bring Loghain to justice and Anora asks him why he would throw away his fortunate alliance for petty revenge. She also says he is unfit to rule.

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

TheSpaceKraken wrote...
He stays facing Anora in my game when he should turn away from her.

*runs away screaming from this thread*

Dont blame you. That had nothing to do with anything.

[Sarah1281]

TheSpaceKraken wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

 That's not really very helpful. Does it get to the point where Alistair demands to be King so he can kill Loghain and she accuses him of being childish? Can you say 'I thought you two were going to rule together'? If so, what does either one of them say about it? 

Yes, Alistair demands to be king, Anora accuses him of being childish, and I can remind them that the plan was that they rule together.  Then Alistair says that the plan was also to bring Loghain to justice and Anora asks him why he would throw away his fortunate alliance for petty revenge. She also says he is unfit to rule.

The toolset said that if Alistair's motivation was changed to glory then he'd go along with it but I'm not sure what that entails. Are you absolutely sure he's hardened? I don't think the 'I thought you two were going to marry' line even had a persuade. When he objected earlier did he say he'd need to take matters into his own hands or mention something about not wanting to be King but wanting a dead Loghain more? 

[beggargirl]

Gurl. I think we been feeding the trolls.

[TheSpaceKraken]

Sarah1281 wrote...
The toolset said that if Alistair's motivation was changed to glory then he'd go along with it but I'm not sure what that entails. Are you absolutely sure he's hardened? I don't think the 'I thought you two were going to marry' line even had a persuade. When he objected earlier did he say he'd need to take matters into his own hands or mention something about not wanting to be King but wanting a dead Loghain more? 

Thanks for trying to help but I think that I hardened him on a different playthrough then on the one I am currently playing and I don't have any saves back far enough to check that.  He said that he didn't want to be king but wanted Loghain dead more, which would seem that I did not harden him.

Next playthrough I guess.

[TheSpaceKraken]

beggargirl wrote...

Gurl. I think we been feeding the trolls.

Sorry for wasting your time, I'm not trying to troll anyone.

The observation I made previously was inaccurate and irrelevant (Shoulder turning? What the hell did I see?).

[saruman85]

LOL I feel your pain beggar, but give him a chance - I had a Landsmeet problem recently too (and sarah tried to help me too, bless!) but I ended up having to reload pre-hardening and console-commanding my way to the Landsmeet.

SpaceKraken, it is my understanding that if the "I thought you and Anora were going to marry" line has a Persuade option in front of it, then you have NOT made them agree to it beforehand. You should try going back to Anora AFTER talking to Alistair in Arl Eamon's estate. I really hope this helps - otherwise either speedrun or console-command from an earlier save (not pleasant, but saves time).

[TheSpaceKraken]

 

Modifié par TheSpaceKraken, 22 juillet 2010 - 09:40 .