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[Sylvius the Mad]

The protagonist in genre fiction and CRPGs both is often some sort of "chosen one".  However, I recall it being a conscious decision on the part of the DAO team not to make DAO's PC any sort of chosen one.  In fact, that's partly why the Human Commoner origin was scrapped - it was working out as a chosen one plot, and you guys didn't want to do one of those.

I really liked that DAO avoided the chosen one angle.

Will DA2 continue this, or is Hawke somehow special in a way of the writers' design, thus making him the proverbial "Chosen One"?

[soteria]

I hope not. ME managed to avoid this trope, as well. It's not one I care for.

[CarlSpackler]

I'm one who can go either way, I really don't mind the chosen one storyline, not matter how cliched it may be. That said I liked DAO just fine as well. I'm pretty easy to please on using cliches or archetypes so long as they are used well.



From my own perspective, I haven't got the impression that Hawke is a chosen one. There don't seem to be any so far in DAO (well at least living anyhow, depending on how the actual history played out Andraste was one.) My impression has been Hawke's a guy (or gal) who is going to be in the right place at the right time. Same story as our Warden or Sheppard for that matter.

[filetemo]

CarlSpackler wrote...

Same story as our Warden or Sheppard for that matter.

Altough Shepard it's starting to look as if he's been "chosen" by Harbinger in a bigger scope long term plan for the reapers.

the bad guys are making him the chosen one...

[Malanek]

I don't think Hawke will be the son of a god, born with any unnatural power that you unlock during the story or mixed up in any prophecy. However I gather that Hawke plays an important role in history and you know this right from the start because the narrator is talking about the past. It will likely depend on your definition of "chosen one".

[Gaxhung]

chosen for what?

[Bobad]

Gaxhung wrote...

chosen for what?

To get pizza.

But seriously to be the Champion of Kirkwall?

[soteria]

Altough Shepard it's starting to look as if he's been "chosen" by Harbinger in a bigger scope long term plan for the reapers.

the bad guys are making him the chosen one...

That may or may not be true, but if they are "choosing" Shepard, it's because of what he did, not because his father is secretly the last heir of a long-lost line of wizard kings that holds the only key to the superweapon that will destroy the reapers forever. When we talk about being the Chosen One, we mean from birth, not chosen based on merit.

[filetemo]

Gaxhung wrote...

chosen for what?

chosen by elder powers to achieve a task no other man could do because you get special powers to do that task granted to you by those powers or because yo are the descendant of an old champion-god-demon-hero-whatever.

That's what we understand by "chosen one"

[thenemesis77]

I think he will get this game and a DLC or expanison. I don't think they have a clear Main for the world that they have made. I think they all play a part and at somepoint they Main's in each game may run into each other to help in a common goal or not see eye to eye, that also depends on timeline too.

[filetemo]

soteria wrote...

Altough Shepard it's starting to look as if he's been "chosen" by Harbinger in a bigger scope long term plan for the reapers.
the bad guys are making him the chosen one...

That may or may not be true, but if they are "choosing" Shepard, it's because of what he did, not because his father is secretly the last heir of a long-lost line of wizard kings that holds the only key to the superweapon that will destroy the reapers forever. When we talk about being the Chosen One, we mean from birth, not chosen based on merit.

true, yet it's an interesting twist to the chosen one archtype

[Riona45]

CarlSpackler wrote...


I'm one who can go either way, I really don't mind the chosen one storyline, not matter how cliched it may be. That said I liked DAO just fine as well. I'm pretty easy to please on using cliches or archetypes so long as they are used well.

Same here.  I'm not inclined to think DA2 will be a Chosen One story, but if it was, I wouldn't be heartbroken over it either.

[Patr10t1]

 Well they said they are not going do the save to world or destroy ancient evil thing so there is no purpose of a chosen one.

[Dave of Canada]

Why can we not have a storyline that's rag to riches without some chosen one prophecy?

[Gill Kaiser]

I think he's "chosen" himself.

[UberDuber]

Hawke is nothing compared to my warden!

[Lord_Saulot]

I doubt he's a "chosen one."



The framing story allows for a retrospective view - from the frame, we already know that Hawke is a big deal. No need to make him "chosen" before hand.



In any case, this is one reason I am glad that DA2 does not continue from DAO. If the Warden went on to continue to be the world-changing figure *after* ending a Blight, then he would seem like too much of a Chosen One figure.

[soteria]

Why can we not have a storyline that's rag to riches without some chosen one prophecy?

Sure, just read Arnold Schwartzenegger's biography.

[Kaiser Shepard]

There can be only one.

[In Exile]

There are different degrees of chosen one. I would argue that the character in Origins was chosen in a sense - you were spectacularly talented relative to the population, in the same way that Shepard was a spectacular talent. Your character was very much not an everyman.

I think the same thing applies to Hawke. We have no indication of a mystical destiny like in BG. Simply being superior to the majority of the population in virtue of talent is a kind of chosen, but not the fantasy kind of chosen, because the hero is replaceable.

I think that's the core element to be a chosen one. It is not a matter of talent but destiny - if it can be anyone other than you, if the only thing that made you special was that you had the talent to achieve what you did, then you are not chosen in any meaningful sense.

That's why honestly I would say even BG did not have a chosen one. JE, on the other hand, did.

[Sneelonz]

Too late, Harry Potter's already the chosen one. So is Anakin. Wait.

[Gill Kaiser]

filaminstrel wrote...

Patr10t1 wrote...

 Well they said they are not going do the save to world or destroy ancient evil thing so there is no purpose of a chosen one.

Well King Arthur was an archetypical chosen one, right, and he didn't destroy some ancient evil, did he? Just became ruler of England led them to victory in battle and such. Kind of like what Hawke might do in the Free Marches. Or like what Calenhad did in the earlier days of Ferelden.

That's not to say Hawke must be a "chosen one" to do this. And a person could just as well save the world from an ancient evil without being a "chosen one", for that matter... so these characteristics seem to be independent of one another.

Or it could be like reality, where great men ascend to power and then retroactively become "chosen ones" when it's time to write up their biographies.

[Malanek]

filaminstrel wrote...
Well King Arthur was an archetypical chosen one, right, and he didn't destroy some ancient evil, did he? Just became ruler of England led them to victory in battle and such. Kind of like what Hawke might do in the Free Marches. Or like what Calenhad did in the earlier days of Ferelden.

I take it you're not Welsh. Lot's of different versions of Camelot and Britain although I'm not sure that any of them have Arthur in the role of a "chosen one" that matches Soteria's description.