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[Costin_Razvan]

And can you please not bring up my story every time I say something negative about Harrowmont as king? I do prefer Bhelen on the throne but I didn't put that in a fanfic. It's just a fanfic. You seem to be taking it a bit too seriously.

Oh? How about every time you argued that as a DN you would kill Bhelen hmm?

So tell me, could you be a bigger hypocrite?

 My first character (Cousland) picked Harrowmont because he was like "I need troops, this guy is a general and he is experienced, I'll go with him, I don't care about the poor or the dwarves in general". Eh, I don't think he cares about the results either.  

And that is why I find it hard to view Bhelen the same way you do ( as in someone who would abandon his allies for political convenience )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 octobre 2010 - 01:40 .

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
 You seem to be taking it a bit too seriously.

Because Sarah, this is not a fan thing. This is a religion.

[inserts Bhelen Dwarven Messiah pic here]

Oh, speaking of, here's an excerpt from the chapter I'm currently writing:

She didn’t know what the future held and could only hope that she hadn’t just killed a man who would have eventually become the…the dwarven messiah or something.

Of course, as dwarven messiah, he'll be fine.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

She didn’t know what the future held and could only hope that she hadn’t just killed a man who would have eventually become the…the dwarven messiah or something.

Of course, as dwarven messiah, he'll be fine.

The Second Coming of Bhelen!!
Our religion is coming together quite well!

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 My first character (Cousland) picked Harrowmont because he was like "I need troops, this guy is a general and he is experienced, I'll go with him, I don't care about the poor or the dwarves in general". Eh, I don't think he cares about the results either.  

And that is why I find it hard to view Bhelen the same way you do ( as in someone who would abandon his allies for political convenience )

Not sure I follow. Bhelen was not this Cousland's ally for him to abandon. He, being highly conservative, looked at who was more experienced and saw Harrowmont and went with him.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And can you please not bring up my story every time I say something negative about Harrowmont as king? I do prefer Bhelen on the throne but I didn't put that in a fanfic. It's just a fanfic. You seem to be taking it a bit too seriously.

Oh? How about every time you argued that as a DN you would kill Bhelen hmm?

So tell me, could you be a bigger hypocrite?

What are you even talking about? I may have at some point said that I'd have a DN kill him but I don't see how that's relevant to who I personally feel is a better ruler or, well, anything.

I have two DNs. One canonically puts Harrowmont on the throne and one goes with Bhelen. That's like having two HNs where one marries Alistair and the other marries Anora. It's just having a different character make a different decision.

Seriously, it's a fanfic. It's really not worth getting so up-in-arms about. Say picking Harrowmont means that Orzammar is destroyed within generations. It's still just one story and if Orzammar is destroyed in that universe then so be it. I really don't see why you feel the need to persist in attacking me because of story choices I made.

[Costin_Razvan]

Not sure I follow. Bhelen was not this Cousland's ally for him to abandon. He, being highly conservative, looked at who was more experienced and saw Harrowmont and went with him.

Ah, so you are conservative then?



To answer your question, it was in reference to the old argument about my fanfiction.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Not sure I follow. Bhelen was not this Cousland's ally for him to abandon. He, being highly conservative, looked at who was more experienced and saw Harrowmont and went with him.

Ah, so you are conservative then?

To answer your question, it was in reference to the old argument about my fanfiction.

I am not. That Cousland however is conservative and he is not my canon. I didn't base him on myself. When I was playing him, I wanted to pick Bhelen, but it wouldn't make sense for that character to do it.

You may not believe that, but seriously. My childhood role model is David Xanatos, do I honestly sound like the kind of guy that would pick Harrowmont?
Eitherway, I couldn't care less.

I know it was, what's the logical connection?

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 octobre 2010 - 01:50 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Ah, well you always did state that you choose Harrowmont over in your first playthrough, so yeah I thought you had a gross miss judgement of Bhelen as king.

 You may not believe that, but seriously. My childhood role model is David Xanatos, do I honestly sound like the kind of guy that would pick Harrowmont?

You seem like the guy who would place the weaker king on the throne then take over the country, and you actually do that . Speaking of which, wanting to buy more games like Alpha Protocol.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 octobre 2010 - 01:56 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Ah, well you always did state that you choose Harrowmont over in your first playthrough, so yeah I thought you had a gross miss judgement of Bhelen as king.

Yes I did state that. But I never said I based my first character on myself. He was a warrior. My canon in rpg is always roguish (infiltrator in ME). I think I specified already that he was a character I was rping, not a character I agree with. He for instance slaughters the werewolves while I prefer the cure. It's just his character. 

Now what I will admit is that I did not expect Harrowmont to fail this badly. I thought he was a conservative, I did not predict he was regressive. It didnt' surprise me, but that was a "Hmmm, now that's interesting. Didnt' see that coming". 

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You seem like the guy who would place the weaker king on the throne then take over the country, and you actually do that . Speaking of which, wanting to buy more games like Alpha Protocol.

If I was a dwarf, maybe
Even then though, my canon dwarf prefers to rule over Ferelden.

And yes, the Alpha Protocol ending is just awesome. The ending was so perfect that I don't feel like wanting to play the game again.

[Giggles_Manically]

I tried playing AP, but it honestly was a pain to do.

The story, NPCs, and choices were amazing, but the combat, and dialouge system were bad.

[Costin_Razvan]

My canon in rpg is always roguish (infiltrator in ME). I think I specified already that he was a character I was rping, not a character I agree with. He for instance slaughters the werewolves while I prefer the cure. It's just his character.

Hmm, I see then. Don't recall that you ever specified that you didn't base him off yourself.

If I was a dwarf, maybe
Even then though, my canon dwarf prefers to rule over Ferelden.

Heh. I would try and take over both if I could then prepare my plans for World Domination ( or well Thedas Domination ). I don't think any self respecting leader wouldn't jump on the chance to take over the world if it was a tangible possibility.

And yes, the Alpha Protocol ending is just awesome. The ending was so perfect that I don't feel like wanting to play the game again.

I suppose that can mean a good thing and a very bad thing. Though for me Alpha Protocol ending just brings a smile to the face. The only game that comes close is the Witcher.

 The story, NPCs, and choices were amazing, but the combat, and dialouge system were bad

The dialogue system was very good in my opinion. split second choices should be present in any RPG and you should not have the option to just reload and redo the dialogue. Live with your choices so to speak.

The combat wasn't that bad as well. Obviously it had some issues, but I felt it was decent.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 octobre 2010 - 02:05 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I actually liked the dialogue system. IT was simple (though rep is not always obvious). It made me feel under pressure as I have to decide quickly. And it made me feel proud when I got no so obvious rep points.

There are cons and pros for the DA system and for the AP system. But in terms of exciting stress (for a lack of a better term), AP was much better. It kept you on edge and you couldn't afford not to listen carefully (unless you knew in advance the rep thing, I think they should have made it harder)

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Hmm, I see then. Don't recall that you ever specified that you didn't base him off yourself.

I am now then

Heh. I would try and take over both if I could then prepare my plans for World Domination ( or well Thedas Domination ). I don't think any self respecting leader wouldn't jump on the chance to take over the world if it was a tangible possibility.

Dain could, maybe. But he'd have to leave Alistair on his own in Ferelden. Eh. Though I suppose he  can still advise him from Orzammar. It was a possibility.

I don't know, I prefer this ending, where Dain and Bhelen cooperate. Might not be the most ambitious thing, but I usually like to moderate my ambitions. Even my canon, Arcturus Cousland, doesn't want to challenge Anora's authority, unless he thinks he needs to. Though he did follow Morrigan in large part because of ambition (a god like son for him to raise? Awesome).

Costin_Razvan wrote...
I suppose that can mean a good thing and a very bad thing. Though for me Alpha Protocol ending just brings a smile to the face. The only game that comes close is the Witcher.

Be honest. It wasn't a smile. It was a smirk lol

[Giggles_Manically]

My problem wasent the time limit, it was how the descriptions were not very helpful, and surprised me a few times with what was said.



Also I hit a lot of bugs, that crashed my game.

[Costin_Razvan]

 

Be honest. It wasn't a smile. It was a smirk lol

Or a wicked wide grin. "I don't need you anymore. I can make my own Halbech, then I can make the world anyway I want." One of the greatest lines in video gaming history.

Have you ever played the Witcher Knight?

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 octobre 2010 - 02:17 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 

Be honest. It wasn't a smile. It was a smirk lol

Or a wicked wide grin. "I don't need you anymore. I can make my own Halbech, then I can make the world anyway I want." One of the greatest lines in video gaming history.

Have you ever played the Witcher Knight?

And "terrible last words" almost made me laugh maniacally lol.

No I haven't actually. I tried finding it back home, but I didn't. I might get it soon when I upgrade my PC. I heard it's good. Really good.

[Giggles_Manically]

I did like the last line though I saw on Youtube:



Are you sure? I think I handed you one of my land mines..

<BOOM>



That made me laugh.

[Costin_Razvan]

No I haven't actually. I tried finding it back home, but I didn't. I might get it soon when I upgrade my PC. I heard it's good. Really good.

It is on steam.

As for how good it is. Then I can say that choices are handled in a similar way to Alpha Protocol. It takes a long time to see the effects of your choices however, and there is a very great importance given to secondary quests. ( For example, helping some elves in an earlier mission might result in them killing a drug dealer hours later which you needed to talk with ).

 And "terrible last words" almost made me laugh maniacally lol.

Same here, it was just incredible.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 octobre 2010 - 02:32 .

[Tigress M]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Now what I will admit is that I did not expect Harrowmont to fail this badly. I thought he was a conservative, I did not predict he was regressive. It didnt' surprise me, but that was a "Hmmm, now that's interesting. Didnt' see that coming". 

I think that's one of the things that makes DA so great, and something I really have to give David Gaider and team huge props for... they have perfected the art of blindsiding us.  I, too, was in complete shock when I saw the slides regarding Orzammar after setting Harrowmont on the throne.  And that's just one of the countless plot twists that caught me off guard throughout the game.  Probably one of the reasons I keep coming back to DA over and over again.  Even after 10 months, I can still get surprised by taking a different path, however minor it may be.  

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Costin
I'll definitely check it out! Thanks!

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 octobre 2010 - 02:34 .

[Costin_Razvan]

I think that's one of the things that makes DA so great, and something I really have to give David Gaider and team huge props for... they have perfected the art of blindsiding us.

To be fair, the only thing that surprised me was the possibility of sparing Loghain's life. Beyond that I wasn't really surprised by anything. ( well save for Alistair's rant, but that ties in with the sparing ).



I have played too many games by Bioware to be surprised by most of their twists.

[Giggles_Manically]

KOTOR and Jade Empire had better twists IMHO.



That being said there were more in Dragon Age.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

KOTOR and Jade Empire had better twists IMHO.

That being said there were more in Dragon Age.

I wish I could agree but I played KotOR2 before KotOR and my brother played JE before I did and I happened to walk by the television when he got the 'Li revives Death's Hand' cutscene so both were blatantly obvious. On the bright side, I could see all the foreshadowing on my first playthrough.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

KOTOR and Jade Empire had better twists IMHO.

That being said there were more in Dragon Age.

I wish I could agree but I played KotOR2 before KotOR and my brother played JE before I did and I happened to walk by the television when he got the 'Li revives Death's Hand' cutscene so both were blatantly obvious. On the bright side, I could see all the foreshadowing on my first playthrough.

I was amazed at how many hints were thrown at you, but you never could see them until you played the games.

I can understand though why Luke yelled:
NO Thats not true thats impossible!

Which is what I yelled at Malak when he dropped the news.