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[Giggles_Manically]

Actually the most pathetic darkspawn is the First from the Blackmarsh quest line.



I cant honestly pick a greatest loser amongst the dwarves since most of them are pretty cool and are doing interesting things.



Besides if this fellow is a member of your race no amount of fail can bring it lower:

[bleetman]

The Provings master. My casteless plans to accompany Sten when he returns home in the hopes of borrowing a cannon to fire him out of.

[Sarah1281]

bleetman wrote...

The Provings master. My casteless plans to accompany Sten when he returns home in the hopes of borrowing a cannon to fire him out of.

I really don't think he's that bad. Even to a casteless, he may be rude (and try to have you arrested in the origin but that's a matter of law) but not particularly hostile and he allows you to enter the Proving easily enough and answers all of your questions. There REALLY aren't worse people to get pissy with? What about the random people in the streets who call you a brand and tell you they'll be watching you? Or Lady Dace? She, despite likely knowing who you are, acts like she thinks you're a noble hunter.

[bleetman]

Oh, I don't know. "Take this... filth away" didn't earn him any points, is all. Virtually everyone in Orzammar is abusive, sure. I just find him particularly so.

[Raonar]

Okay, so a challenge to all of you here. What do you people think about Trian and what reasons would your dwarf noble have to try and save him, regardless of how impossible the game's "DN must be totally idiotic" rule makes it.



And you can also think about a way to thwart Bhelen's scheme too. So, how would your DN deal with Bhelen's whole plot if the game didn't force him to be totally stupid and not notice his little brother's obvious intentions?

[mousestalker]

Mini rant.



I've just created a new dwarf noble. She's respeccing into dual wield as soon as she hits Ostagar. My problem is that as soon as she was jailed she really started to look funny. Why is it that female dwarves only look good in massive armour? She looked great in the Aeducan plate, but now I'm faced with a nasty selection of splint, chain and light armours. I could put her in Provocateur for the stats, but she really looks ridiculous in it.



/rant



Anyone have any suggestions for decent looking early armours for dwarven women?



Here's a screenie of her at the Provings:

[KnightofPhoenix]

....I am somewhat glad this thread is no longer called the Master Race thread...because a blond blue eyed woman raising her hand in a particular manner can be interpretted very wrongly...


In other news, since I have the PC version, expect Bhelen spamage sometime soon.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 02 décembre 2010 - 11:43 .

[Sarah1281]

Anyone have any suggestions for decent looking early armours for dwarven women?

What about the dwarven guard armor you find in the Deep Roads? It's kind of out of the way but it's decent starting armor.



@Knight: If you could ever stomach saving before going back to the Assembly with the crown and then picking Harrowmont for screenshot purposes, one where Harrowmont foolishly tries to punch the heavily armed and armored Bhelen to death would be epic.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...
@Knight: If you could ever stomach saving before going back to the Assembly with the crown and then picking Harrowmont for screenshot purposes, one where Harrowmont foolishly tries to punch the heavily armed and armored Bhelen to death would be epic.

I will be praying for Bhelen to shield bash him. THAT would be epic.

[mousestalker]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Anyone have any suggestions for decent looking early armours for dwarven women?

What about the dwarven guard armor you find in the Deep Roads? It's kind of out of the way but it's decent starting armor.

@Knight: If you could ever stomach saving before going back to the Assembly with the crown and then picking Harrowmont for screenshot purposes, one where Harrowmont foolishly tries to punch the heavily armed and armored Bhelen to death would be epic.

I hadn't even thought about that particular historical reference. 

@Sarah, that's what she is wearing now. I just hate being stuck in the same armour for too many levels. The next decent armour I know of is Blood Dragon, and that's tier 6. 

[Corker]

Do you have the DLCs? You could pick up Warden Commander or Cailan's.

[mousestalker]

Warden Commander is an excellent thought. My OCD won't let me wear Cailan's without the helmet, and the purple plume looks... silly.



Thank you!

[mousestalker]

@PMA- de gustibus and all that, I guess. I mostly do not like the arms on the lighter armours.



Hypothetical for the forum. A new resident has been posting a lot. One of his posts complains about the dearth of female non-human companions. What if Oghren had been a woman and Branka a man? How would that have changed things, if it would change things at all?



Either way, you have all the ingredients for a country and western song. But how would the dynamics have changed? Would it affect the plot? How would the characters have to be redrawn?

[Corker]

PureMethodActor wrote...

I happen to think dwarven women can look good in the types of armor you mentioned (scale, chain, and splint), as their curves are more eccentuated with the side-skirts of the armor

*snort*  I guess that's the 'accentuate the positive' take on it.  I remember my reaction to equipping Wade's Dragonskin: OMG this armor makes my hips look HUGE!

[Corker]

mousestalker wrote...
Hypothetical for the forum. A new resident has been posting a lot. One of his posts complains about the dearth of female non-human companions. What if Oghren had been a woman and Branka a man? How would that have changed things, if it would change things at all?

Either way, you have all the ingredients for a country and western song. But how would the dynamics have changed? Would it affect the plot? How would the characters have to be redrawn?

I have thought before that fem!Oghren would be made of awesome.

First thing I'd do would be to gender-swap Caradin as well, to keep Paragon gender parity and not lose another woman boss fight.  You could add a creepy tone of the golems being her 'children' then, if you wanted, or leave it as the more generic mad scientist/Frankenstein sort of thing it is now.

If it was desired to keep the same-sex adulterous relationship, Hespith would have to be a man... which doesn't work, since Hespith needs to be a broodmother candidate.  So, no fem!Oghren pondering the hotness of m/m relations, as canon!Oghren does for f/f.  (And a certain segment of the customer base sighs in relief.  *eyeroll*)

I see no reason why fem!Oghren couldn't be a drunken, out-of-control berserker.  Folks would probably be more likely to assume that she's still carrying a torch for m!Branka, whereas canon!Oghren does a pretty good job of pretending that he doesn't care (and I think we're more likely to believe him at first). 

The sexual come-ons and innuendo would probably get re-written.  What reads as crass and clueless for canon!Oghren would probably sound more like pathetically desperate for fem!Oghren.  At least, that's what a dozen forum threads would assert. 

m!Branka would have a no-fuss, no-muss, no getting-lit-on-fire-in-the-forge hair/beard combo - possibly bald or stubble up top, and something small (for a dwarf) and neat for face fuzz.  fem!Oghren should get her own custom 'do just like canon!Oghren gets - I think something involving a lot of elaborate braids.  (For super-duper bonus awesome that would cost way too much to implement, I'd give her a more basic, standard hairstyle when she's first recruited and then, once her approval gets to... 71?  ...she's regained enough self-respect and sobriety to bother to do her hair up again.  And then in Awakening, it's back to the simpler one...)

You could leave Felsi as-is, to get back the same-sex romance (...if that's the right word for Felsi/Oghren...) you lost when Hespith couldn't go male for plot reasons.  fem!Oghren could still name her first child after the Warden in the epilogue - that could just be left as-is or spelled out for the less imaginative.  (I figure adoption of a foundling, a la Bodahn Feddic, would be the neatest solution.  Plenty of Blight orphans out there.)  Or you could make Felsi a guy if fem!Oghren is straight, as canon!Oghren seems to be.  While I think the dynamic of that sidequest could remain the same, I think the specific dialogue would get redone.  canon!Oghren offering to grease up the old bronto is crass; fem!Oghren making the same offer reads, rightly or wrongly, as desperate.  She'd have to take a slightly different tactic.

[mousestalker]

I think you're right about Hepsith. She is the biggest stumbling block to a fem-Oghren. Felsi can be handled by changing to Felsin. Although that makes the whole Awakening storyline of abandoning the child a bit more harsh.



I love the idea of the changing hairstyles. It's a pity the companions' appearance doesn't really change with time or emotional state. Perhaps they have something like that in mind for DA2?

[Gilsa]

I like Corker's response to the question. She put a lot of thought into it! And I did notice how all the female companions were human, yeesh. They did shake things up for Awakening though.

[Costin_Razvan]

Here is my little Dwarf from WoW again, ready for Cataclysm after killing the Lich King.



I wanted to name him Duran when I race changed, but I figured that would be over the top. "Chuckle".

[Giggles_Manically]

Why do you have a happy little sunflower for a friend Costin?

Its just there is a real badass dwarf and then a smiling sunflower right next to it.

[Zjarcal]

If you ask me, the sunflower is badass. Reminds me of Plants vs Zombies.

As for F!Oghren, interesting analysis by Corker! While we'll never see a F!Oghren in game, there is a F!Zevran...

Modifié par Zjarcal, 03 décembre 2010 - 05:48 .

[Costin_Razvan]

If you ask me, the sunflower is badass. Reminds me of Plants vs Zombies.

Exactly! They added a mini-game in WoW that is like that, and once you finish it you get the Sunflower.

Here is my Dwarf after killing LK:  ( even have a video, different kill but same bastard ).



And here is he after owning Kael'Thas and getting his Phoenix.

Riding a Raid Boss ( A'lar - The Phoenix God as he is called ) is awesome.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 03 décembre 2010 - 05:52 .

[Sarah1281]

If it was desired to keep the same-sex adulterous relationship, Hespith would have to be a man... which doesn't work, since Hespith needs to be a broodmother candidate. So, no fem!Oghren pondering the hotness of m/m relations, as canon!Oghren does for f/f. (And a certain segment of the customer base sighs in relief. *eyeroll*)

I don't think the story would be any weaker if Hespith remained a female. As it currently stands, for all we know Branka could be an outright lesbian and not bisexual because she had an arranged marriage to Branka and quickly left him behind so her choosing Hespith over Oghren would be more about her orientation and less about Oghren (unless you go the cringe-worthy 'OMG, Oghren's so obnoxious he turned Branka gay!' route). If Hespith and Oghren were both women then Branka leaving Oghren behind would mean more, imo, as would the fact that she started up with his cousin since it really would have been all about him her.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 03 décembre 2010 - 05:56 .

[Wulfram]

Female Oghren would probably be even more surly, because people would be telling her to cut her tongue out and join the silent sisters

[Corker]

Sarah1281 wrote...

If it was desired to keep the same-sex adulterous relationship, Hespith would have to be a man... which doesn't work, since Hespith needs to be a broodmother candidate. So, no fem!Oghren pondering the hotness of m/m relations, as canon!Oghren does for f/f. (And a certain segment of the customer base sighs in relief. *eyeroll*)

I don't think the story would be any weaker if Hespith remained a female. ... If Hespith and Oghren were both women then Branka leaving Oghren behind would mean more, imo, as would the fact that she started up with his cousin since it really would have been all about him her.

I don't disagree.  There's plenty of ambiguity in the Oghren/Branka/Hespith situation, and depending on how you read it, it can say different things about the parties involved.

It's just nice to have some diversity in the NPC pairings, yes, pretty much for diversity's sake.  I mean, Ser Cauthrien could have been Ser Claudius and it would have had zero plot impact, but I'm glad she was a woman, just 'cause I like to see women in a diversity of roles.  Origins has a few same-sex couples - three besides Branka/Hespith? - although Branka/Hespith might be the only one to say in so many words, "We were lovers."  (I think Leliana says, "I loved her," and Zevran will admit to "friends and more," but those both leave room to pretend to misunderstand them, if you like.  Wade/Herren is strictly implied.)

But four is not such a large number that you can shave one off and not miss it, so I just thought that if you lost Branka/Hespith, it would be nice to include another s/s, not-intrinsic-to-the-plot relationship somewhere else.