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[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

[Raonar]

Because of Gorim, yes?

[thegreateski]

The DN is the most depressing origin.



There's really no happy ending for that guy/gal.

[Herr Uhl]

Raonar wrote...

Because of Gorim, yes?

And she thinks that Alistair resembles Bhelen.

[Giggles_Manically]

I will always love you lady Aeducan!

<Tender Hug>

One week later...

Hmmm the women on the surface sure are pretty... HOLY STONE look at the legs on that one!

[Raonar]

And Trian... I think.

So wait, Cailan resembles Bhelen too?

"shuders"

Modifié par Raonar, 30 juillet 2010 - 10:32 .

[Raonar]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I will always love you lady Aeducan!

One week later...
Hmmm the women on the surface sure are pretty... HOLY STONE look at the legs on that one!

Okay, I guess i should finally spell out why Gorim should not be hated.

1. You get him exiled. He loses both Aeducana nd Saelac status, as well as his caste and family.
2. He gets ambushed by bandits and loses the use of his leg while protecting your shield and letter. He somehow manaes to survive all the way to Denerim out of sheer loyalty.
3. He is not a warrior anymore. He has lost the last thing that defined him. He practically has nothing, can do nothing.

And even after all this, HE IS STILL YOUR MAN (Lord Aeducan) /You still have his heart (Lady Aeducan)

So, he's faced with these choices:

-die of starvation/ilness or watevr and completely fail you. The Shield of Aeducan and the letter from Endrin would be looted by urchins or thieves and never reach you.
-marry someone and, thus, survive enough for him to at least do a small bit of what he would actually do.

He does the latter, and when you finally meet him again, he lies to your face and says he's content, even though he's miserable, just so you wouldn't suffer more than you already are. And because he can't use his leg anymore, he pretends to be over you (or tries and fails) but decides he wants you to hate him or resent him and move on, instead of feeling utterly helpless and sufferrring for his ake. Really, he does all this and still suffers because he can't be there fr you.

He wants to be there for you, an he is, but in a very hopeles way.

Honestly, this is like the absolutely most tragic way of showing someone you would do anything for him/her.

Stop hating Gorim already.

Modifié par Raonar, 30 juillet 2010 - 10:43 .

[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

And Trian... I think.

So wait, Cailan resembles Bhelen too?

"shuders"

No, Cailan resembles Trian. Since Trian and Bhelen look alike and Alistair and Cailan look alike, it fits.

And it's not just because of Gorim, it's because everybody does it and because their epic Alistair love keeps them on the Surface and I've only read one DN story where I really think she's better off on the Surface.

Also: 


Edit: I don't hate Gorim and I don't really blame him for reasons such as the ones you listed.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 30 juillet 2010 - 10:42 .

[Raonar]

Just going to add these here, to make sure everyone got the idea.

He does the latter, and when you finally meet him again, he lies to your face and says he's content, even though he's miserable, just so you wouldn't suffer more than you already are. And because he can't use his leg anymore, he pretends to be over you (or tries and fails) but decides he wants you to hate him or resent him and move on, instead of feeling utterly helpless and sufferrring for his ake. Really, he does all this and still suffers because he can't be there fr you.

He wants to be there for you, an he is, but in a very hopeles way.

Modifié par Raonar, 30 juillet 2010 - 10:45 .

[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

Just going to add these here, to make sure everyone got the idea.

He does the latter, and when you finally meet him again, he lies to your face and says he's content, even though he's miserable, just so you wouldn't suffer more than you already are. And because he can't use his leg anymore, he pretends to be over you (or tries and fails) but decides he wants you to hate him or resent him and move on, instead of feeling utterly helpless and sufferrring for his ake. Really, he does all this and still suffers because he can't be there fr you.

He wants to be there for you, an he is, but in a very hopeles way.

Where's that from? 

Lots of people wonder about why he's so eager to go back to Orzammar when he tells you how much he loves the Surface when he sees you but I don't recall him ever saying that, just that it's not as bad as he thought it would be and he's making the best of it. It's not ALL bad but he'd still rather go home.

Oh, and all the 'OMG, I hate Orzammar! Thank the Ancestors Alistair is here to rescue me from it!' aspsects of Alistair/DN fics also annoy me. You're a princess; you're life really isn't that bad and if you, the player, hate it then why are you playing the DN origin anyway? 

[mousestalker]

Dwarf males have one advantage on the surface. I can sum it up in one word--> upskirt.

[Raonar]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Just going to add these here, to make sure everyone got the idea.

He does the latter, and when you finally meet him again, he lies to your face and says he's content, even though he's miserable, just so you wouldn't suffer more than you already are. And because he can't use his leg anymore, he pretends to be over you (or tries and fails) but decides he wants you to hate him or resent him and move on, instead of feeling utterly helpless and sufferrring for his ake. Really, he does all this and still suffers because he can't be there fr you.

He wants to be there for you, an he is, but in a very hopeles way.

Where's that from? 

Lots of people wonder about why he's so eager to go back to Orzammar when he tells you how much he loves the Surface when he sees you but I don't recall him ever saying that, just that it's not as bad as he thought it would be and he's making the best of it. It's not ALL bad but he'd still rather go home.

Oh, and all the 'OMG, I hate Orzammar! Thank the Ancestors Alistair is here to rescue me from it!' aspsects of Alistair/DN fics also annoy me. You're a princess; you're life really isn't that bad and if you, the player, hate it then why are you playing the DN origin anyway? 

That's just my take on the in-love-with-Lady-Aeducan Gorim. I thought about it, and how he tells you those things, and I got the inkling he wanted you to resent him, at least a little, to make your life easier.

Still, it's only my interpretation.

Modifié par Raonar, 30 juillet 2010 - 11:00 .

[Sarah1281]

I like that take on it. It's better than him falling in love with a Surface dwarf within a few months of you parting ways at any rate.

[soignee]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

*hides Aeducan/Alistair smut*

Nothing to see here, carry on

[Herr Uhl]

mousestalker wrote...

Dwarf males have one advantage on the surface. I can sum it up in one word--> upskirt.

Also: Motorboat.

[Giggles_Manically]

Why is it such a joke on Deviant Art that Teagan is in to dwarf smut?



Aimo covers it a lot and I have seen so many pics that have that theme.

[Kryyptehk]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Why is it such a joke on Deviant Art that Teagan is in to dwarf smut?

Aimo covers it a lot and I have seen so many pics that have that theme.

I think Aimo started that. And I peg Teagan as more of a Mage man:P

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

*hides Aeducan/Alistair smut*

Nothing to see here, carry on

We all have our issues. You hate Pollyanna Brosca, for instance.

[soignee]

Because there's also a fanfiction of it with TE-GHANNNN that Aimo referenced. It's a fan created thing, like everyone assuming Antiva=Italy thanks to "si, amore" that Zevran says.

[soignee]

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

*hides Aeducan/Alistair smut*

Nothing to see here, carry on

We all have our issues. You hate Pollyanna Brosca, for instance.

HOW. HOW DO THEY NOT GET KILLED IN DUST TOWN. HOWWWWW.

[thegreateski]

Teagan is a MAN. He likes WOMEN, be they Dwarf, Elf, Human, whateverthefeckotherracesthereare.

[soignee]

Eski it's like talking to a holey bucket now.

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

*hides Aeducan/Alistair smut*

Nothing to see here, carry on

We all have our issues. You hate Pollyanna Brosca, for instance.

HOW. HOW DO THEY NOT GET KILLED IN DUST TOWN. HOWWWWW.

Rica is really good at sheltering her sibling? Possibly too good? 

Now I am tempted to, when I have time, write a one-shot about Pollyanna Brosca's origin.

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

Eski it's like talking to a holey bucket now.

Yeah, you, Eski, and Raonar all got new avatars and it is CONFUSING ME.

[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Well, at least you can find solace in fanfiction.

Many DN stories depress me, though, especially when they romance Alistair.

*hides Aeducan/Alistair smut*

Nothing to see here, carry on

We all have our issues. You hate Pollyanna Brosca, for instance.

Whhhaaaatttt????

How in the world to you leap from Brosca to Pollyanna? The nicest my Broscas get is showing some sign of remorse if they kill someone that didn't totally deserve it.