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[Sarah1281]

Zjarcal wrote...

I got a question for those who've played as a DC. In case you did the Gauntlet after Orzammar, how did you feel watching Leske's spirit after his betrayal? I have never played a DC so I don't even know how exactly does his betrayal go, but my guess is that I wouldn't be feeling too warm towards him after that.

He's kind of annoyed at you for killing him and insists that he had no choice since she 'owned' him and you would have done the same thing. I actually got kind of annoyed at his blatant refusal to take responsibility for his own actions, especially as he didn't just go along with betraying you but luring you into the trap at your old house where you get the trinket you need to enter the real hideout was his idea.

[Sarah1281]

So I was looking in the toolset and just found dialogue that I've never seen (because my Wardens are usually more polite to the people who can make their life harder) but will make me kill Imrek - that annoying guy who thinks Loghain is King - every time in the future:



PC: Why have your people retreated like this?

Imrek: They hide because they are dwarves. (Haughty. "They hide because they are dwarves and dwarves are cowards who squat underground.")

[Zjarcal]

You had never gotten that dialogue?



Hah, I always get it and his head is the first thing that goes off.



Back to the Leske thing I brought up, I'm surprised he's annoyed that you kill him. What were you supposed to do, let Jarvia run you over?



What Corker said makes sense, about her DC feeling she would've ended up in the same position as Leske. It still seems like he could've at least stayed out of the whole "tricking the Warden" thingie.

[Sarah1281]

You only get Imrek's **** dialgoue if you ask why have the dwarves retreated and that seems kind of rude. I don't want to insult the guy who has the power to make me wait outside with everyone else until Orzammar gets its act together.



And this is the specific dialogue path I was talking about for Leske sounding annoyed:

Leske: Hey. What's shapin'? (Casual, friendly)

PC: Hello, Leske.

Leske: That's all you have to say? Not even a "Sorry I ran you through?" There's friendship for you, I guess. (Bitter)

PC: You had it coming to you.

Leske: You never really cared about us. Knew you were meant for greater things. Up there. The surface. (Bitter, a little spiteful)

PC: You know I had to leave.

Leske: Is it really so difficult to say how you feel about those you left behind? (Regretful) They say the Maker knows your heart, no matter how much you try to hide it. Goodbye, my friend. Remember me. (Trying to be cheerful, sincere)

Also...why is Leske talking about the Maker? It's weird.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Speaking of Gauntlet ghosts, Trian's ghost really affected me (especially after reading the toolset). So much so that I think Dain only then realised what he had done (killed his brother, instead of just eliminating an opponent). And while the option was not there, Dain decided to name his firstborn Trian after that.

[Zjarcal]

I never thought the line "Why have your people retreated like this?" was rude. The way I asked it was more like, "Why aren't you allowing anyone else to enter?". That's how I've always seen it. I can see why you'd think it's rude though.



And it is weird to hear Leske mentioning the Maker. You're both dwarves, why on earth bring up the Maker?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Because I don't think it's really Leske, but an illusion somehow created in the Gauntlet. Probably due to the Lyrium.

[Wolfmaster0417]

It is not leske, the guardian is using your memories to see how you will react, if you played as a DC then at one time he was your best friend, so eventhough he got what he desirved, you still fill some guilt at killing him.

[Sarah1281]

Zjarcal wrote...

I never thought the line "Why have your people retreated like this?" was rude. The way I asked it was more like, "Why aren't you allowing anyone else to enter?". That's how I've always seen it. I can see why you'd think it's rude though.

And it is weird to hear Leske mentioning the Maker. You're both dwarves, why on earth bring up the Maker?

Asking why no one can go in is a valid question, I just hate the way it's phrased. Retreated has a lot of negative connotations, after all.

Even if it's not really Leske (and gauntlet!Tamlen confirms this), he still helped me figure out Andraste's significance on my dwarven characters. He calls her a human Paragon.

[Zjarcal]

Yeah, I suppose the illusion thing does explain any OOC things that the ghosts may say. I would like to think that there is some connection between the ghosts and the actual person, not that it's something completely fabricated by the Guardian.

[Corker]

Zjarcal wrote...

 It still seems like he could've at least stayed out of the whole "tricking the Warden" thingie.

I figure it was a loyalty test.  "Are you in the Carta, Leske, or out of it?"

gauntlet!Jowan will also hypothesize that he's some combination of Jowan, mage!Warden's memories of Jowan, and Fade Spirit.  (He even suggests that you're in the Fade, which had my Surana looking around for the Black City.  )

[Herr Uhl]

Corker wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

 It still seems like he could've at least stayed out of the whole "tricking the Warden" thingie.

I figure it was a loyalty test.  "Are you in the Carta, Leske, or out of it?"

gauntlet!Jowan will also hypothesize that he's some combination of Jowan, mage!Warden's memories of Jowan, and Fade Spirit.  (He even suggests that you're in the Fade, which had my Surana looking around for the Black City.  )

You know what they say, Lyrium is a hell of a drug.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 02 septembre 2010 - 09:16 .

[Raonar]

Herr Uhl wrote...
You know what they say, Lyrium is a hell of a drug.

Yes, only dwarves are supposedly immune to it.

[Herr Uhl]

Raonar wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
You know what they say, Lyrium is a hell of a drug.

Yes, only dwarves are supposedly immune to it.

Not immune, resistant.

[Costin_Razvan]

Raonar wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
You know what they say, Lyrium is a hell of a drug.

Yes, only dwarves are supposedly immune to it.

Not sure if it wouldn't affect dwarves the same way in that regard. The game only tells us they are immune to touching the raw lyrium, but they still suffer greatly if it enters their body.

[mousestalker]

The gem merchant in Orzammar (the guy who babbles and stutters near the mines entrance) mentions that lyrium got into his blood if you ask him.

[KnightofPhoenix]

mousestalker wrote...

The gem merchant in Orzammar (the guy who babbles and stutters near the mines entrance) mentions that lyrium got into his blood if you ask him.

Garin. The most adorable NPC in Origins. I want to hug him everytime I talk to him, honest lol

[Corker]

Young Dwarf 1: Look what I've got!

Young Dwarf 2: Lyrium dust?  Isn't that dangerous?

Young Dwarf 1: No way, not if you're Miner Caste!  Come on, let's sniff it!  It's like flying through the Stone!

Young Dwarf 2: I don't know.  That doesn't sound like a good -

Young Dwarf 1: Come on, what are you, some sniveling duster?

Young Dwarf 2: No, man, I'm just... you know... saying...

Young Dwarf 1: You're scared!

Young Dwarf 2: No I'm not!

Young Dwarf 1: Then do it!

(Ominous close up of lyrium dust.  Young Dwarf 2's head suddenly obscures it as he leans over a pile.  Sniffing sound.  Pull back.  Young Dwarf 2 has his arms thrown open wide and is staring at unseen visions.)

Young Dwarf 2: Wow... I never... wha...wha... oh....

(Young Dwarf 2 collapses.  Young Dwarf 1 drops down next to him, shaking him and calling "Durin! Durin!  Fade the sound out as VO begins.)

VO (get a serious Warrior Caste-sounding guy): Lyrium dust.  Just because you're a dwarf, or even a miner, doesn't mean it can't hurt you, damage your mind, or even... kill you.  Don't let your friends tell you otherwise or you might end up... a lyrium duster. 

Brought to you by Miners for a Responsible Tomorrow.

[Raonar]

Corker wrote...

Young Dwarf 1: Look what I've got!

Young Dwarf 2: Lyrium dust?  Isn't that dangerous?

Young Dwarf 1: No way, not if you're Miner Caste!  Come on, let's sniff it!  It's like flying through the Stone!

Young Dwarf 2: I don't know.  That doesn't sound like a good -

Young Dwarf 1: Come on, what are you, some sniveling duster?

Young Dwarf 2: No, man, I'm just... you know... saying...

Young Dwarf 1: You're scared!

Young Dwarf 2: No I'm not!

Young Dwarf 1: Then do it!

(Ominous close up of lyrium dust.  Young Dwarf 2's head suddenly obscures it as he leans over a pile.  Sniffing sound.  Pull back.  Young Dwarf 2 has his arms thrown open wide and is staring at unseen visions.)

Young Dwarf 2: Wow... I never... wha...wha... oh....

(Young Dwarf 2 collapses.  Young Dwarf 1 drops down next to him, shaking him and calling "Durin! Durin!  Fade the sound out as VO begins.)

VO (get a serious Warrior Caste-sounding guy): Lyrium dust.  Just because you're a dwarf, or even a miner, doesn't mean it can't hurt you, damage your mind, or even... kill you.  Don't let your friends tell you otherwise or you might end up... a lyrium duster. 

Brought to you by Miners for a Responsible Tomorrow.

Corker strikes again!

And I'll take this opportunity to thank you for pointing me towards The Order of the Stick when you wrote Birthright. I've been laughing my lungs out for days.

[Costin_Razvan]

So I finished Chapter Five of War of Shadows, now I just need to wait for Raonar to proofread it.



No pressure ( Just kidding, thanks for the help. Really helps me get more incentive to write when I know my stories won't be filled with grammatical errors. )

[Raonar]

Yes, only next time don't drop it on my head at midnight:P.

Any time until 10-11 is great, mostly because I sometimes don't even visit the forum here after midninght and only notice the messages in the morning (even though I go to sleep at around 1... which is now actually... hmm) )

I don't really mind, but I was having some serious lulz reading this :

http://uncyclopedia....om/wiki/Romania

Warning: do not click on said link without a sufficient quantity of brain bleach at hand. Permanent mental scarring may ensue.

Modifié par Raonar, 02 septembre 2010 - 10:16 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Raonar wrote...
http://uncyclopedia....om/wiki/Romania

Warning: do not click on said link without a sufficient quantity of brain bleach at hand. Permanent mental scarring may ensue.

It also said:
" Never argue or fight a syrian as they are immortal"

Hahaha, I think people already know that about me here.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 02 septembre 2010 - 10:29 .

[Sarah1281]

Any time until 10-11 is great, mostly because I sometimes don't even visit the forum here after midninght and only notice the messages in the morning (even though I go to sleep at around 1... which is now actually... hmm) )

That information would be a lot more helpful with an accompanying timezone.

[Costin_Razvan]

Raonar wrote...

Yes, only next time don't drop it on my head at midnight:P.

Any time until 10-11 is great, mostly because I sometimes don't even visit the forum here after midninght and only notice the messages in the morning (even though I go to sleep at around 1... which is now actually... hmm) )

I don't really mind, but I was having some serious lulz reading this :

http://uncyclopedia....om/wiki/Romania

Warning: do not click on said link without a sufficient quantity of brain bleach at hand. Permanent mental scarring may ensue.

You know, you didn't have to do it just then lol, but yeh sorry for giving it then. Seriously I just expected to wait till tomorrow.

As for that site....I felt like strangling someone. 

 That information would be a lot more helpful with an accompanying timezone.

We are both Romanians, so no need for timezone for me to know what he is talking about.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 03 septembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[Sarah1281]

We are both Romanians, so no need for timezone for me to know what he is talking about.

But you DID need to know the Romanian thing, which once you know that you can Google the timezone.

Edit: According to Google it's 6 AM there? That's eight hours ahead of me.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 03 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .