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[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

You can persuade him to see it your way and not lose any approval if you are trying to avoid the approval loss.

That's not the problem. The problem is that if you're RPing it a certain way then you don't want to look weak in front of Dulin and Zevran openly questioning you looks weak. That's also why Sten, Shale, and Wynne don't get to come along whenever I sell Harrowmont out to Vartag.

Sten and Shale dont come off as bad as Wynne though.

[RavenousBear]

Oh, I see now. That would be a problem since the Warden is the leader of the party. I take it you do not bring Sten or Morrigan to Redcliffe?

[Giggles_Manically]

Caak7i wrote...

Oh, I see now. That would be a problem since the Warden is the leader of the party. I take it you do not bring Sten or Morrigan to Redcliffe?

I brought Morrigan once as my DC... needless to say it really made me not like her for a while.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

You can persuade him to see it your way and not lose any approval if you are trying to avoid the approval loss.

That's not the problem. The problem is that if you're RPing it a certain way then you don't want to look weak in front of Dulin and Zevran openly questioning you looks weak. That's also why Sten, Shale, and Wynne don't get to come along whenever I sell Harrowmont out to Vartag.

Sten and Shale dont come off as bad as Wynne though.

 Yeah, I think Shale only speaks up if Sten is there and Sten's all 'Politics is stupid. Just pick somebody' which makes it seem more like he's just annoyed with the whole process while Wynne's all 'But...but Bhelen's evil! And you gave Lord Harrowmont your word! That's almost as sacred as a pinky promise!' Vartag offering to throw her into the Deep Roads is the only time I ever liked him.

[Costin_Razvan]

You know...I like that you incorporated my idea of throwing Lady Dace into the lava, somewhat that is.

[RavenousBear]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Oh, I see now. That would be a problem since the Warden is the leader of the party. I take it you do not bring Sten or Morrigan to Redcliffe?

I brought Morrigan once as my DC... needless to say it really made me not like her for a while.

Yeah, sometimes I question her intelligence with some of the statements she makes.  At least the dialogue is not as bad in Orzammar otherwise my dwarves would problems with her attitude.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

You can persuade him to see it your way and not lose any approval if you are trying to avoid the approval loss.

That's not the problem. The problem is that if you're RPing it a certain way then you don't want to look weak in front of Dulin and Zevran openly questioning you looks weak. That's also why Sten, Shale, and Wynne don't get to come along whenever I sell Harrowmont out to Vartag.

Sten and Shale dont come off as bad as Wynne though.

 Yeah, I think Shale only speaks up if Sten is there and Sten's all 'Politics is stupid. Just pick somebody' which makes it seem more like he's just annoyed with the whole process while Wynne's all 'But...but Bhelen's evil! And you gave Lord Harrowmont your word! That's almost as sacred as a pinky promise!' Vartag offering to throw her into the Deep Roads is the only time I ever liked him.

I dont get Vartag at all.
I mean you are helping him and he acts like a gigantic jack ass.

[Giggles_Manically]

Caak7i wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Oh, I see now. That would be a problem since the Warden is the leader of the party. I take it you do not bring Sten or Morrigan to Redcliffe?

I brought Morrigan once as my DC... needless to say it really made me not like her for a while.

Oh try dumping her like Omeron did.
It took me until the very end to get her approval to friendly again.

Yeah, sometimes I question her intelligence with some of the statements she makes.  At least the dialogue is not as bad in Orzammar otherwise my dwarves would problems with her attitude.

[RavenousBear]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

You can persuade him to see it your way and not lose any approval if you are trying to avoid the approval loss.

That's not the problem. The problem is that if you're RPing it a certain way then you don't want to look weak in front of Dulin and Zevran openly questioning you looks weak. That's also why Sten, Shale, and Wynne don't get to come along whenever I sell Harrowmont out to Vartag.

Sten and Shale dont come off as bad as Wynne though.

 Yeah, I think Shale only speaks up if Sten is there and Sten's all 'Politics is stupid. Just pick somebody' which makes it seem more like he's just annoyed with the whole process while Wynne's all 'But...but Bhelen's evil! And you gave Lord Harrowmont your word! That's almost as sacred as a pinky promise!' Vartag offering to throw her into the Deep Roads is the only time I ever liked him.

I dont get Vartag at all.
I mean you are helping him and he acts like a gigantic jack ass.

He is a jack ass with a chip on his shoulder,

[RavenousBear]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Oh, I see now. That would be a problem since the Warden is the leader of the party. I take it you do not bring Sten or Morrigan to Redcliffe?

I brought Morrigan once as my DC... needless to say it really made me not like her for a while.

Oh try dumping her like Omeron did.
It took me until the very end to get her approval to friendly again.

With Feastday gifts, I have the freedom to say whatever I want without any fears

[Sarah1281]

You know...I like that you incorporated my idea of throwing Lady Dace into the lava, somewhat that is.

It would be just a perfect way for her to meet her Ancestors...

I dont get Vartag at all.

I mean you are helping him and he acts like a gigantic jack ass.

That's why it's my theory that Bhelen keeps him around so he has a scapegoat in a pinch. I mean, if one of Bhelen's little schemes are discovered then who would it be easier to pin the blame on while you feign ignorance? Someone like Vartag or someone like Dulin?

[RavenousBear]

PureMethodActor wrote...

Caak7i wrote...
With Feastday gifts, I have the freedom to say whatever I want without any fears

^This. I'm glad I downloaded the Feastday stuff, because maintaining the PERFECT approval levels to initiate quests and stuff is easy as pie with random gifts. Also, for me, its always funny giving Zevran the chastity belt.

Just a random opinion; I truly believe the Dwarf Noble origin is the most compelling origin in Dragon Age Origins. Its one of my top-two favorites (the other being City Elf).

Not to say that the other origins arent good... well actually I believe the Dalish Elf origin is the most disappointing story-wise (recently started a playthrough), and pales in comparison to Dwarf Noble and Dwarf Commoner origins

I have to agree with you, except I have CE, DN and HN as tied as the top 3 compelling origins in my book. The other origins seem to miss a key ingredient that makes me lose interest quickly when playing through the origin stories, with DE with the weakest story in my opinion.

[soignee]

I like the concept of the Dalish elves but they got shafted, and you have to really RP your character and bonepick for lore. As it happens, Vardel Mahariel is my 2nd favourite Warden of mine.

Dwarf Commoner is my favourite as it gave me Missa, as much as I loathe her sometimes and her CONSTANT NOISE OF IDEAS in my head. Dwarf Noble is fun and my first proper completed playthrough, and Sereda Aeducan (shh I used the default don't judge) makes me all sentimental about the game in general. Her story ends after Awakenings though, and I feel no need to explain it like I do Missa's.

I struggle with human noble and the dreaded "cous cous" syndrome, and struggle to RP them without getting bored.

I keep on meaning to complete my Tabris and my Surana, but my free time is currently too thinly spread.

Modifié par soignee, 19 septembre 2010 - 11:27 .

[RavenousBear]

I do not blame you for going against the grain as I also find many popular things in real life to be overrated. The major difference between the HN origin and the others is the LM where you get to be the King's or Queen's "sidekick". The men get miss bug-eyed Anora with a poor imitation of Princess Leia's hairstyle and the women get the High School jock from high school. The men also have the luxury of the option of having Loghain as your father-in-law. As Cailan would say: "Glorious!"

Pretty much agree with you about the Dalish origin. I did not like Tamlen at all and his attitude. Though killing the shemlen in the beginning was a fun treat when I first went through that origin.

As for the DN origin, I find it hard to roleplay as any type of personality. I find it hard to be a goody-two-shoes DN who truely believes lower castes, especially the castless, are equals. Part of it being the noble culture the noble was raised in. That can change after the betrayal in the Deep Roads, however it would take some time to alter such attitudes in my opinion.

[Sarah1281]

The men get miss bug-eyed Anora with a poor imitation of Princess Leia's hairstyle 

*is torn between  and * When did Star Wars characters get a monopoly on braids? 

[Loerwyn]

I want a Dwarven companion. She could help me clean up

[RavenousBear]

PureMethodActor wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

I do not blame you for going against the grain as I also find many popular things in real life to be overrated. The major difference between the HN origin and the others is the LM where you get to be the King's or Queen's "sidekick". The men get miss bug-eyed Anora with a poor imitation of Princess Leia's hairstyle and the women get the High School jock from high school. The men also have the luxury of the option of having Loghain as your father-in-law. As Cailan would say: "Glorious!"

Well I won't say anything bad about Alistair. He's my bro in almost every playthrough, and definitely not a jock. In fact he's more like the nerdy-virgin type, which adds to his likeableness imo. I relate a lot to him personality-wise, and hence why he deserved to be "corrupted" by Sundira, my best-looking, best-female-personality warden yet

Yep, I gave him the dwarven love. He now has "Stone Fever". Has anyone coined that term yet?, because I feel like I've seen that quoted before...

But if you don't like him that much, I won't hold that against ya. And ftr, I DO agree with everything else you said

I was joking a bit when I made that post. Alistair in my opinion looks like the starting QB of a college football team. Maybe it is the hair. Next time I will add some indicators that I am not being serious since it is hard to tell sarcasm on the internet. And next time I will make sure to proofread before typing such statements as "the High School jock from high school." Oh well, too late to change that.

Sarah1281 wrote...

The men get miss bug-eyed Anora with a poor imitation of Princess Leia's hairstyle 

*is torn between ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png and ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png* When did Star Wars characters get a monopoly on braids? 

Top Dogs get special privileges:P

[Thrubeingcool13]

I just realized that you could talk to the Proving contestants before your match with them. Unfortunately I've never done it with a DN, but I imagine that Frandlin Ivo's relative would have something interesting to say.

[Sarah1281]

Oh, he does.

Wojech: Well if it isn't the exiled Lady Aeducan/little Lord Aeducan (VO: Scornfully, condescendingly)

(Wojech: I'm looking forward to humiliating you, just like my brother did. (VO: Contemptuous))

(Wojech: I hear you made meat of my little brother. Looks like it's time to put the polish back on the Ivo name. (VO: Threatening))



PC: Your brother betrayed me and House Aeducan.

Wojech: I don't think so, exile. You're a nameless Surfacer now and my brother stands at Prince Bhelen's left hand (VO: Contemptuous)



PC: I'm going to make you eat those words.

Wojech: This isn't some Glory Proving to celebrate a noble brat's first commission, exile. (VO: Disdainful) You're fighting men now, not little girls. (VO: Macho)



PC: When Harrowmont is King, you and your brother will both hang.

Wojech: If Harrowmont has no one to champion him but a nameless exile, how will he find the votes to be King? (VO: Disdainful) You know what they say: The ancestors help those who side with the winners. (VO: Macho)

He's just generally condescending and 'I never saw anything special about your order' to non-DN's but he is REALLY begging you to side with Harrowmont just so you can return to the Proving area post-coronation and kill him in the resulting riot.

[Thrubeingcool13]

Yeah, next time I play as a DN, he's dying.

Seriously though, why is it that all of Bhelen's supporters are such jackasses? Bhelen is usually rather civil, and then there's Vartag and Wojech who are ridiculously pompous.

[Sarah1281]

It makes Bhelen look better in comparison even when all those pesky fratricidal and patricidal rumors pop up?