Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
You actually use WORDS when courting someone? I thought a good shield bash or a skull blugeoning was the unoffical language of love, and WWF style wrestling the prefered form of foreplay!
You men. Is that all you're interested in is TALKING?
Pheh.:happy:
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
The silent sisters do not need to speak. The only conversation required is burying their axe in your skull. Anything else is just pointless, really.
What about flirting? I mean an axe could be intriguing for a while, but that would get too scary eventually.
What about the sweet talk?
I mean it's like having a mute TV, it's useless
You actually use WORDS when courting someone? I thought a good shield bash or a skull blugeoning was the unoffical language of love, and WWF style wrestling the prefered form of foreplay!
You men. Is that all you're interested in is TALKING?
Pheh.:happy:
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Things sure have changed it seems.
What happened to the good old days when we just talked?
Is that in a dictatorial sense, a pseudo divine sense, a fully divine sense, an imperial sense, or a inane sense of a decleration?Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Things sure have changed it seems.
What happened to the good old days when we just talked?
A dark age that will be forgotten, once it becomes mandatory to install mute buttons in all new-born males. Then, finally, the make sex will be made perfect.
So declareth Skadi.
Sarah1281 wrote...
Is it weird that I can't stand the Silent Sisters? They really seem like they're doing more harm than good for Orzammar's women fighters. They're the only women fighters (except for people like, say, a princess) who are automatically taken seriously. Even Adal Helmi who is likely the sister of a deshyr and a high-up member of a very powerful family has to deal with that kind of crap. The Silent Sisters aren't a threat to the established order of things as they mutilate themselves and so aren't really capable of functioning out there by themselves and need a handler plus they probably never get married and have children so they can't pass along anything about their fighting.
The men in Orzammar have been shown to not really want women fighting but if it's a Silent Sister then they're nice and easily placed apart from the rest of society. If women want to fight and to be taken seriously, society practically shoves them at the Silent Sisters and as long as they're the women fighters given any automatic respect, it stops women fighters from becoming more mainstream and accepted.
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Is that in a dictatorial sense, a pseudo divine sense, a fully divine sense, an imperial sense, or a inane sense of a decleration?
Yeah, it might not be as rare as it once was but this dialogue that the DNM gets if he fights in the Proving is what I'm basing the issues that men have with women fighters in Orzammar on.Lisa_H wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
Is it weird that I can't stand the Silent Sisters? They really seem like they're doing more harm than good for Orzammar's women fighters. They're the only women fighters (except for people like, say, a princess) who are automatically taken seriously. Even Adal Helmi who is likely the sister of a deshyr and a high-up member of a very powerful family has to deal with that kind of crap. The Silent Sisters aren't a threat to the established order of things as they mutilate themselves and so aren't really capable of functioning out there by themselves and need a handler plus they probably never get married and have children so they can't pass along anything about their fighting.
The men in Orzammar have been shown to not really want women fighting but if it's a Silent Sister then they're nice and easily placed apart from the rest of society. If women want to fight and to be taken seriously, society practically shoves them at the Silent Sisters and as long as they're the women fighters given any automatic respect, it stops women fighters from becoming more mainstream and accepted.
I don't like the Silent Sisters either for reason stated above. I always liked to think that my DNF tried to improve the view of female fighters before her exile, and later when she returned as a Paragon.
But it seems like female warrios are not so unusual that they should be considered as very strange occurrence, even if they are not royalty. The dwarf noble's granmother was a warrior, and unless she was a ruling queen she must have been a fighter before she was a royal. Shale was also a warrior, and probably warrior caste. And I think Hespith was the commander of Branka's troops.
Compared to what DNF's get:(IF: Male)
MaleDN: "Who is my next opponent?"
Proving Master: "Adal Helmi. A... a woman, your Highness. She's a tenacious fighter." (VO: Hesitant, speaker seems afraid to say this.)
1. I'll fight anyone.
2. You let a woman fight in the Proving in my honor?
Proving Master: "It was not my idea. Lady Helmi was most insistent. I did not expect her to actually win her first match. Will you fight her?" (VO: Speaker is trying not to push blame around.)
2a. If I have to.
2b. Why not? Should be easy.
2c. No. I'm done with this Proving.
Proving Master: "Please forgive me, your Highness. I never meant to cause offense." (SET: Provings_Offended) *End dialogue*
3. Yes, but I must rest first.
When the match begins:
Adal Helmi: "Honor and glory to your house, your Highness." (VO: Respectful)
1. There is no honor in fighting a woman.
2. And to yours.
3. I'm going to slaughter you.
(IF: Victory) Proving Master: "That was a crowd-pleaser. Many were waiting to see that woman put in her place."
Actually, this left me wondering what they were saying about the DNF or if they were smart enough not to say anything against the second-in-line for the throne. Perhaps they were okay with Adal fighting in Lady Aeducan's proving because it was already about a woman but they wanted to keep Lord Aeducan's proving all-men.(IF: Female)
FemDN: "Who is my next opponent?"
Proving Master: "Adal Helmi. Another female warrior, and a tenacious fighter."
1. Good. It will be an interesting fight.
2. I need to rest first.
When the match begins:
Adal Helmi: "You are my inspiration, your Highness, and to all of us who follow your example and live by the sword." (VO: Respectful, awed)
1. Thank you.
2. Be proud of getting this far.
3. I'm going to slaughter you.
(IF: Victory) Proving Master: "That was a crowd-pleaser. I can't remember the last time we had two female warriors of such skill."
Ah, than I shall get to work building your statue.Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Is that in a dictatorial sense, a pseudo divine sense, a fully divine sense, an imperial sense, or a inane sense of a decleration?
All of the above! Because I can! I'm that awesome!
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Ah, than I shall get to work building your statue.
Where would you like it?
It will have to be done in stages though.Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Ah, than I shall get to work building your statue.
Where would you like it?
On the moon! Really big, so it can be seen from earth. So everyone can bask in my greatness, and I can look down upon my adoring subjects!
Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 26 septembre 2010 - 07:15 .
Guest_PureMethodActor_*
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
The silent sisters do not need to speak. The only conversation required is burying their axe in your skull. Anything else is just pointless, really.
What about flirting? I mean an axe could be intriguing for a while, but that would get too scary eventually.
What about the sweet talk?
I mean it's like having a mute TV, it's useless
You actually use WORDS when courting someone? I thought a good shield bash or a skull blugeoning was the unoffical language of love, and WWF style wrestling the prefered form of foreplay!
You men. Is that all you're interested in is TALKING?
Pheh.:happy:
. I've always wanted a woman to beat me into submission. Its the best way for a woman to tell ME that they want me.
PureMethodActor wrote...
OMG lol did you really say this!? I'm in slight disbelief.
One last question..Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
PureMethodActor wrote...
OMG lol did you really say this!? I'm in slight disbelief.
Haven't beenl lurking in the Alistair thread much, have you?:happy:
@Giggles: Consider it done. I shall simply beat the needed funds and permissions out of world leaders and said businessmen. Let the building commence.
Sarah1281 wrote...
Actually, this left me wondering what they were saying about the DNF or if they were smart enough not to say anything against the second-in-line for the throne. Perhaps they were okay with Adal fighting in Lady Aeducan's proving because it was already about a woman but they wanted to keep Lord Aeducan's proving all-men.
Giggles_Manically wrote...
One last question..
Do you want two massive death beams, or one death beam, and multiple smaller ones to cover the exhaust port?
That means I have to find the correct crystals to get the optimum alignment to pull this off.Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
One last question..
Do you want two massive death beams, or one death beam, and multiple smaller ones to cover the exhaust port?
The whole thing must radiate a constant aura of death beams. Nothing but the best for me.
Guest_PureMethodActor_*
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
PureMethodActor wrote...
OMG lol did you really say this!? I'm in slight disbelief.
Haven't beenl lurking in the Alistair thread much, have you?:happy:
@Giggles: Consider it done. I shall simply beat the needed funds and permissions out of world leaders and said businessmen. Let the building commence.
Guest_PureMethodActor_*
Sarah1281 wrote...
I don't deny that the Silent Sisters are badass, I just think that their practice of mutilating themselves and thus preventing themselves from being both a fighter AND a real member of society hurts the cause of women fighters.
She wasn't trying to become the first female Paragon. This is what the Hanashan's trainer says about her:Caak7i wrote...
I know that the Silent Sisters cut their own tongues to emulate Astyth the Grey, but why did she decide to cut her own tongue? She faced hardships trying to become the first female Paragon, so did she do it to show she was dedicated to her people in defeating the darkspawn?
They're an order of female warriors, founded by Astyth the Grey, a woman of the Warrior Caste who first fought for women's right to be soldiers. When no one listened to her words, Astyth cut out her tongue and dedicated herself to training, until she won a Grand Proving bare-handed. The women who join her order cut out their tongues in her honor.
Sarah1281 wrote...
She wasn't trying to become the first female Paragon. This is what the Hanashan's trainer says about her:Caak7i wrote...
I know that the Silent Sisters cut their own tongues to emulate Astyth the Grey, but why did she decide to cut her own tongue? She faced hardships trying to become the first female Paragon, so did she do it to show she was dedicated to her people in defeating the darkspawn?They're an order of female warriors, founded by Astyth the Grey, a woman of the Warrior Caste who first fought for women's right to be soldiers. When no one listened to her words, Astyth cut out her tongue and dedicated herself to training, until she won a Grand Proving bare-handed. The women who join her order cut out their tongues in her honor.
It just seems so ironic. Astyth cut out her own tongue to prove a point because no one would listen to her when she tried to advance the cause of women fighters and her own followers prevent themselves from being heard or making a difference because they can't speak at all. Astyth did what she did after she first tried all other options. These Silent Sisters are now inadvertently helping to prevent their cause from progressing any further with the whole 'You want to fight? Go cut out your tongue and be incapable of being anything else or ever changing anything' mentality Orzammar seems stuck in.
thegreateski wrote...
Wow. I leave the thread for a month and by the time I come back all the women have turned into skull bashing Amazons.
Sarah1281 wrote...
who join her order cut out their tongues in her honor.
It just seems so ironic. Astyth cut out her own tongue to prove a point because no one would listen to her when she tried to advance the cause of women fighters and her own followers prevent themselves from being heard or making a difference because they can't speak at all. Astyth did what she did after she first tried all other options. These Silent Sisters are now inadvertently helping to prevent their cause from progressing any further with the whole 'You want to fight? Go cut out your tongue and be incapable of being anything else or ever changing anything' mentality Orzammar seems stuck in.
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