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[Costin_Razvan]

But it's extremily different from Bhelen invading Orlais. One situation has him being risky, the other has him being a complete idiot.

Oh? How so?

To rectify my point. The situation of invading Orlais would only happen after the Chantry had actually declared an Exalted March against Fereldan for giving mages the same freedoms that Orzammar does. Since Fereldan and Orzammar are far closer to the Dales then Val Roxyeaus is, then I figure the allied armies would be able to march faster then the Chevaliers could. It's not idiocy to launch a strike faster then your enemy can.

But here is the situation. Bhelen sees Fereldan doing exactly what he is doing with the mages, and also giving the Dalish land in exchange for them aiding against the Darkspawn. Then he sees the Chantry threating Fereldan with an exalted March unless they shackle the mages again and maybe also remove the Dalish from their new Land. Do you think he would just abandon his allies just like that, and for what? A military threat from Orlais and possibly the other Andrastian Nations?

While losing the Lyrium trade would hurt Bhelen, it would hurt the Chantry a hell lot more. The repercussions of losing all your templars to insanity would be great...and it would be something the Chantry might not recover from. I am certain Bhelen would first seek a diplomatic solution, as would I, but I cannot see the Chantry agreeing. They cannot allow Fereldan to become another Imperium.

And speaking of the Imperium. They might be weak, they might be in a constant state of war with the Qunari, but they still are a strong military powers that OPOSES Orlais. If Fereldan+Orzammar joined up against Orlais what do you think the Imperium would do? Allow a country which wants to follow the same path for mage freedoms as they have, or just allow the golden opportunity to strike at Orlais to pass?

Nevarra I can understand fighting besides Orlais....but Tevinter....eh no.

 Since there is no blight I doubt that no Dwarves even know anything that goes on out there. Its hard enough to get dwarves to go fight a blight on the surface, but getting them to fight a surface war? 

Not much chance of that.

Dwarves will follow their king in war, be it on the surface or underground. Maric was able to convince a unit from the Legion to fight for honor...how much convincing do you think it would take to make them fight alongside their allies who have helped them since the end of Blight against the Darkspawn?

As for Cavalry...well the Legion fared quite very damned well against the Chevaliers in TST.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 12 octobre 2010 - 11:50 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yea, here we go again with mage freedoms that David Gaider said the Chantry was not going to give and that was beyond the authority of the Ferelden monarchy.

Orzammar's lifeline is trade. Cut that off and it dies. So how will Bhelen fund his reforms? How will he keep his alliance with merchants? How will he better the position of the casteless? It's irrelevent who suffers more. States don't care about absolute losses, they care about relative gains. What could Orzammar possibly gain from this? And yes absolutely, Bhelen would abandon allies that are getting themselves into a war that means nothing to him. And he would throw the mages out if they are going to cause surfacers to invade his Orzammar.

And why would Tevinter leave itself exposed to the Qunari just to fight Orlais? Nevarra stands in between, so you want Tevinter to fight both? What do they gain? A far off ally that wouldn't be of much use? 

But in any case, I really don't care. Do whatever you want in your FF.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 12 octobre 2010 - 11:56 .

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Why would the Noble/Warrior houses even want to go to the surface though?



Bhelen can talk real good, and his fairly smart but he would have the Legion and the Casteless, plus his loyal houses. If any house did not want to go (one house didnt during the blight I think) then even his loyalty houses would be afraid of losing an advantage to the others. I could see them marching if all or almost all agreed but by the time this would come up there is a good number of houses that detest him.



The other thing is that if Bhelen cuts off all Lyrium for a while then the Templars are gone, and the chantry has to start answering questions, and then they lose their watch on the mages.

The Divine is a politican, has to be in that setting she would see which way the wind is blowing.



Besides she was only "considering" a march, with the ruckus that DA2 seems to be bringing Fereldan and Orzamar are probably going to be on the back burner to world affairs fairly soon.



The Chantry does not have that much life in it, from the way things are standing.

If I was the king I would sit back and watch the fireworks, while building up resources and defenses in case something real bad happens. Like a Flemeth Army, Qunari, Chantry cage match.



Better to be ringside, than in the ring methinks.

[Costin_Razvan]

The Qunari who are waging a massive invasion against the Free Marches?



Personally I would see the opportunity to attack one of my enemies.



As for Bhelen. As I mentioned he already is perfectly willing to risk his Lyrium trade, which you consider so important, for the mages. Regardless of what you might feel about the epilogue slides they are akin to the word of God.

[Giggles_Manically]

See I dont see a war as a time to invade, I see it as a time to hold back and watch what happens.



Committing to the losing side is not healthy in the long term. if you chose poorly.

Let the morons fight it out, and then act.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
As for Bhelen. As I mentioned he already is perfectly willing to risk his Lyrium trade, which you consider so important, for the mages. Regardless of what you might feel about the epilogue slides they are akin to the word of God.

Nothing suggests that he would not be willing to throw them out if the Chantry gave him a better deal. Or if they did try to invade. You honestly think Bhelen would just stand there and say "nu-uh!" if Orlais started knocking on Orzammar's doors threatening to invade? Why would he care that much for mages anyhow?

He is making a risk yes (and as I epxlained, it isn't that much of a risk). But he isn't invading. That would no longer be a risk. That's him going into a war that means nothing and fully justify an invasion against him.   

[Costin_Razvan]

Perhaps, but let's say you were in the place of the Tevinter ruler.



You see Orlais and Nevarra moving their troops south to deal with the Fereldan and Orzammar alliance, and thus leaving their northen borders undefended. You see the Qunari moving their military might against the Free Marchers.



It would be a hell of a time to strike against the Andrastian Nations.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Perhaps, but let's say you were in the place of the Tevinter ruler.

You see Orlais and Nevarra moving their troops south to deal with the Fereldan and Orzammar alliance, and thus leaving their northen borders undefended. You see the Qunari moving their military might against the Free Marchers.

It would be a hell of a time to strike against the Andrastian Nations.

Would be a much better time reclaiming lost ground against the Qunari.

[Sarah1281]

It would be a hell of a time to strike against the Andrastian Nations.

What possible reason could Bhelen have to invade Orlais?

[Giggles_Manically]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Perhaps, but let's say you were in the place of the Tevinter ruler.

You see Orlais and Nevarra moving their troops south to deal with the Fereldan and Orzammar alliance, and thus leaving their northen borders undefended. You see the Qunari moving their military might against the Free Marchers.

It would be a hell of a time to strike against the Andrastian Nations.

I would instead use it as a time saying:
Lets lay off each other and wipe out the big guys with horns right now.

You know the ones who hate us, and are REALLY scary. We can kill each other later. 
As much as Tevinter has to fear from the other nations, I would rather take the Qunari on.

If no one was listening, I would marshal my forces assemble them to be rapidly deployed, send out huge amounts of scouts and spies and wait. Maybe a few assassins as well.

That could just be my RTS experience talking, people hate playing with me since I always build up huge defences and sit there the whole game. What can I say the best offence is a good defense. 

[Costin_Razvan]

You honestly think Bhelen would just stand there and say "nu-uh!" if Orlais started knocking on Orzammar's doors threatening to invade? Why would he care that much for mages anyhow?

You want a reason? How about not permanently losing allies against the Darkspawn. Fereldan is about the only nation who ever cares to help the Dwarves, and while he certainly would lose the troops in the short term as they are pulled to fight Orlais, in the long term he would strengthen the Alliance between Orzammar and Fereldan. ( and this works as well between mages and Orzammar ).

Say what you will about Bhelen. I am most certain he might be willing to sell you out for a better deal, but I do not think he would abandon his allies because of a military threat, no matter how great it was.

Would be a much better time reclaiming lost ground against the Qunari.

A naval invasion against the Qunari? I mean certainly I would consider it as well, but with the might of the Qunari Navy I would be more inclined to deal with the neighbors I can reach by land.

 That could just be my RTS experience talking, people hate playing with me since I always build up huge defences and sit there the whole game. What can I say the best offence is a good defense.  

So you...turtle, so to speak. Doesn't work out that well in real life. I would personally leave the Free Marchers and the Qunari to kill each other while I smash Orlais and Nevarra.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 13 octobre 2010 - 12:14 .

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Yes I do turtle.



But no my plan is to watch for a while and wait for a good moment to strike. I dont think engaging at the start of a war is sound since many things could happen, the Qunari could even pack up and leave, or could be wiped out by Hawke and that would leave me with my butt hanging in the breeze so to speak.



My plan would be to watch, if the Qunari start winning I would strike their supplies and landing zones in a rapid attack to draw them away and then side with the other nations, earning some gratitude.



If the other nations start doing really well same plan, but much more aggressive assaults on them.



However I will keep watch on the coasts since the Qunari might be capable of a two pronged attack and that concerns me. Its all well and good to win ground, but if no one is at home and it gets taken then you are stuck in a two front war. Not good at all.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You want a reason? How about not permanently losing allies against the Darkspawn. Fereldan is about the only nation who ever cares to help the Dwarves, and while he certainly would lose the troops in the short term as they are pulled to fight Orlais, in the long term he would strengthen the Alliance between Orzammar and Fereldan. ( and this works as well between mages and Orzammar ).

Say what you will about Bhelen. I am most certain he might be willing to sell you out for a better deal, but I do not think he would abandon his allies because of a military threat, no matter how great it was.

As you see in the DN Origin,. Bhelen doesn't like surfacers fighting their war. He'd like to have allies, but not at the expense of his trade. Because without it, his city crumbles and all his reforms would be for nothing and all his alliances with merchants and by extension the noble houses that patronise them would be lost. He is not only threatning his city, he is threatening his own power base.

And since your Ferelden is going to overthrow the Circle, this means it no longer needs Lyrium. And if Bhelen gets all Andrastian nations against him. Who would he sell the Lyrium to? Bam, economy collapsing and his own throne threatened.

And Ferelden is way too weak and is on the verge of economic collapse and has suffered too much death for it to provide adequate aid, especially in the long term. So why would Bhelen risk everything to have Ferelden as an ally? Ferelden is a backwater and far from being worth it.

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Would be a much better time reclaiming lost ground against the Qunari.

A naval invasion against the Qunari? I mean certainly I would consider it as well, but with the might of the Qunari Navy I would be more inclined to deal with the neighbors I can reach by land.

Then take advantage of the time to build up their forces and their navy. Not just "lol attack!".

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 13 octobre 2010 - 12:21 .

[Costin_Razvan]

But no my plan is to watch for a while and wait for a good moment to strike. I dont think engaging at the start of a war is sound since many things could happen, the Qunari could even pack up and leave, or could be wiped out by Hawke and that would leave me with my butt hanging in the breeze so to speak.

If Hawke wins, then it doesn't matter that much. Since after facing a full invasion from the Qunari I very much doubt the Free Marches would be in any position to wage war against Tevinter.

 As you see in the DN Origin,. Bhelen doesn't like surfacers fighting their war. He'd like to have allies, but not at the expense of his trade. Because without it, his city crumbles and all his reforms would be for nothing and all his alliances with merchants and by extension the noble houses that patronise them would be lost. He is not only threatning his city, he is threatening his own power base.  

And yet he welcomes them with open arms if you choose to ask for a boon, and the combined Dwarven and Fereldan armies reclaim Bownammar I think.

 And since your Ferelden is going to overthrow the Circle, this means it no longer needs Lyrium. And if Bhelen gets all Andrastian nations against him. Who would he sell the Lyrium to? Bam, economy collapsing and his own throne threatened

No, I do not plan on overthrowing the Circle ( and I made clear in the Dragon Age 2 forum thread ), nor do I plan on destroying the Templar Order since I consider the destruction of either of them to be the pinnacle of stupidity. My plan has always been to give the mages their right to make their own choices within the Circle...instead of having the fear of Annulment on their head. I would have the First Enchanter have the ultimate say without any fear of templars interfering. Giving them full autonomy doesn't mean the Circle ceases to exist in my opinion.

Of course dealing with Fereldan Templars would be problematic...since I do want to keep their Order alive but I do not want them to become insurgents.

 And Ferelden is way too weak and is on the verge of economic collapse and has suffered too much death for it to provide adequate aid, especially in ther long term. So why would Bhelen risk everything to have Ferelden as an ally? Ferelden is a backwater and far from being worth it.  

Fereldan is CONSIDERED a Backwater by the Orlesians, it most certainly doesn't make it one. I also think you are applying too much modern economical thinking into medieval times, completely different situation.

As for providing adequate aid. You will have to excuse me, but a nation that  could on it's own match the Blight in terms of military manpower ( from what Loghain and Oghren say ) is far from having problems with manpower, and we know that most of the population that lived in Denerim escaped.

The reality is that armies have always only been made by a small percentage of a country's population...and the times where armies in medieval times have exceded 100.000 people are considered rare exceptions. So manpower is not a concern, but I do agree that food supplies would be.

 Then take advantage of the time to build up their forces and their navy. Not just "lol attack!".  

So that Orlais, Nevarra and the Qunari spies can find out and prepare for it?

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 13 octobre 2010 - 12:31 .

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

But no my plan is to watch for a while and wait for a good moment to strike. I dont think engaging at the start of a war is sound since many things could happen, the Qunari could even pack up and leave, or could be wiped out by Hawke and that would leave me with my butt hanging in the breeze so to speak.

If Hawke wins, then it doesn't matter that much. Since after facing a full invasion from the Qunari I very much doubt the Free Marches would be in any position to wage war against Tevinter.

If Hawke wins, than I will go home after doing some negotiations with him of course.
I would honestly smooth relations over and look for ways to prepare against the Qunari more.

Bogging down in the continent is not any war I want to get involved with.

[Costin_Razvan]

If Hawke wins, than I will go home after doing some negotiations with him of course.
I would honestly smooth relations over and look for ways to prepare against the Qunari more.

Bogging down in the continent is not any war I want to get involved with.

Hawke could just as well want to kill the Fereldan ruler as he would want to charge into Orlais to slay the Divine. His/her actions and beliefs are not cannon and should not be used in an argument.

As for not wanting to deal with the Andrastian nations, well here is where we differ. I believe one should be aggressive in war, and Sun Tzu most certainly agrees with me here.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 13 octobre 2010 - 12:36 .

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He also says to be cautious in war, and prepare for everything as best you can.



I doubt he would agree with launching a massive war, without a very clear goal, exit strategy, and timetable. I have read the Art of War and as much as he advises offensive play, he does also tell people to have clear plans, and prepare well for everything.



Your plan runs a high risk, and a serious setback can really blow up in your face if something starts to go bad. I may not gain much by playing defensive in this situation, but I dont think its healthy to try and engage a good chunk of the continent in open war, with shaky alliances,and unclear plans and timetables.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
And yet he welcomes them with open arms if you choose to ask for a boon, and the combined Dwarven and Fereldan armies reclaim Bownammar I think.

He reclaims lost ground with or without them. In any case, he would think twice before allowing himself to be militarily dependent on someone else. This alliance in the epilogue doesn't jeopardise his economic policies, so it's fine. 

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Of course dealing with Fereldan Templars would be problematic...since I do want to keep their Order alive but I do not want them to become insurgents.

Yea duh, you'll either have to evict them, or kill them. If the Chantry won't stand by it, neither will they.

And so Bhelen will have no one to sell Lyrium too. And even if Ferelden would buy Lyrium, it cannot possibly replace Orlais, Nevarra, Free Marches, Antiva and all other Andrastian nations.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Fereldan is CONSIDERED a Backwater by the Orlesians, it most certainly doesn't make it one. I also think you are applying too much modern economical thinking into medieval times, completely different situation.

How? So a medieval country doesn't have to worry about its economy? How is it going to fund such a large useless war?

And Ferelden is considered a backwater by everyone else, not only Orlais.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
As for providing adequate aid. You will have to excuse me, but a nation that  could on it's own match the Blight in terms of military manpower ( from what Loghain and Oghren say ) is far from having problems with manpower, and we know that most of the population that lived in Denerim escaped.

You know how lucky we were and if the Archdemon was not in Denerim, we would have lost by sheer attrition. The epilogue and Witch Hunt all say that Ferelden was devastated and Ferelden will need time to recuperate. Time you are not giving it.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
The reality is that armies have always only been made by a small percentage of a country's population...and the times where armies in medieval times have exceded 100.000 people are considered rare exceptions. So manpower is not a concern, but I do agree that food supplies would be.

Except when you are getting yourself into a war with everyone else.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
So that Orlais, Nevarra and the Qunari spies can find out and prepare for it?

Oh so better attack them out of the blues with little to gain?
Nevarra is strong enough to rival Orlais, why would the Imperium attack it when the exalted marches against it have long since passed?
It's an opportunity to have a breather and strengthen their forces.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 13 octobre 2010 - 12:47 .

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[Costin_Razvan]

He reclaims lost ground with or without them. In any case, he would think twice before allowing himself to be militarily dependent on someone else. This alliance doesn't jeapordise his economic policies, so it's fine.

Fereldan would be dependent on Orzammar logistically and for Golems, so it's not like Bhelen wouldn't have some aces in his sleve, so to speak.

ea duh, you'll either have to evict them, or kill them. If the Chantry won't stand by it, neither will they.

Pretty much this, though it depends I think how exactly the Templars are Organized. I think Tevinter had it's own Templars, but we do not know what they did with em...though I personally think they just made them into their own version of Templars...killed those loyal to the Chantry however.

How? So a medieval country doesn't have to worry about its economy? How is it going to fund such a large useless war?

And Ferelden is considered a backwater by everyone else, not only Orlais.

It isn't that it doesn't have to deal with an economy, it's that a medieval economy is vastly different to a modern one, and you are thinking in modern ways about it.

You know how lucky we were and if the Archdemon was not in Denerim, we would have lost by sheer attrition. The epilogue and Witch Hunt all say that Ferelden was devastated and Ferelden will need time to recuperate. Time you are not giving it.

It would take months at least in my opinion for the Diplomatic talks to end, it's not like I am ordering Fereldan to jump against Orlais just after Denerim. Though I have not played WItch Hunt ( and I have no desire to play another **** DLC with reused zones ).

Except when you are getting yourself into a war with everyone else.

Everyone else? You will have to pardon me if I do not share your full certainty that Antiva, the Free Marchers and Nevarra would aid Orlais just like that, and even in the miraculous situation where they would, how do you figure that they would form an united cohesive fighting force? Oh certainly they defeated the elves...but the elves in Dragon Age suck. As for the Qunari, do not forget that Rivain and the Imperium had fought for many years against the Qunari before the Chantry came along.

Oh so better attack them out of the blues with little to gain?
Nevarra is strong enough to rival Orlais, why would the Imperium attack it when the exalted marches against it have long since passed?
It's an opportunity to have a breather and strengthen their forces.

And then do what exactly? Sit back while Orlais is either winning against Fereldan or is losing. Sit back while the Qunari are conquering territory in the Free Marches? I do not think the Imperium needs to go through Nevarra to reach Orlais.

 I doubt he would agree with launching a massive war, without a very clear goal, exit strategy, and timetable. I have read the Art of War and as much as he advises offensive play, he does also tell people to have clear plans, and prepare well for everything.

The plan for Fereldan is simple: Either destroy Orlais or force them to accept the changes you are making in Fereldan.

As for preparing for everything, you know what's worst possible situation for Fereldan? All the Andrastian nations join up ( save for the Free Marchers ) against it. Tevinter sits idly and the Qunari decide to land in Fereldan. In that situation I would be forced to make peace with Orlais...and return the Circle into their slavery, and then turn my armies against the Qunari.

But if Tevinter allies with me, then I can deal with the Qunari and the combined Andrastian nations. If only Orlais fights against me and the Qunari land, then I can deal with it ( say what you will, I am confident in the ability of the Dwarves+Fereldans+Mages+Dalish to deal with these two ).

If the Qunari do not invade and Tevinter sits idly, then I can deal with the Andrastian Nations...it's 3 against 2 if you want to go by pure numbers...and I do consider my armies to be vastly superior to theirs, and it is pivotal to remember they would lack the cohesion that my army has ( because of distrust in one another ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 13 octobre 2010 - 01:08 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Fereldan would be depended on Orzammar logistically and for Golems, so it's not like Bhelen wouldn't have some aces in his sleve, so to speak.

Would that provide him with money necessary to keep his alliances together and thus himself on the throne?

He would be better off using Lyrium (the oil of its time so to speak) as the ace up his sleave.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Pretty much this, though it depends I think how exactly the Templars are Organized. I think Tevinter had it's own Templars, but we do not know what they did with em...though I personally think they just made them into their own version of Templars...killed those loyal to the Chantry however.

I highly doubt Tevinter "templars" use Lyrium. I think they are mages, or that's what I remember.
Regardless, it would be only one country buying Lyrium, instead of several. Big loss.

It isn't that it doesn't have to deal with an economy, it's that a medieval economy is vastly different to a modern one, and you are thinking in modern ways about it.

How? I don't think I am. I didn't mention any modern concepts. I assume that they have common sense to understand basic economics.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
It would take months at least in my opinion for the Diplomatic talks to end, it's not like I am ordering Fereldan to jump against Orlais just after Denerim. Though I have not played WItch Hunt ( and I have no desire to play another **** DLC with reused zones ).

Would months be sufficient? Considering how the blight destroys not only people, but also land.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Everyone else? You will have to pardon me if I do not share your full certainty that Antiva, the Free Marchers and Nevarra would aid Orlais just like that, and even in the miraculous situation where they would, how do you figure that they would form an united cohesive fighting force? Oh certainly they defeated the elves...but the elves in Dragon Age suck. As for the Qunari, do not forget that Rivain and the Imperium had fought for many years against the Qunari before the Chantry came along.

Even Orlais on its own. As I do not believe that the dwarves, or elves are going to help you, because they have no interest to, you'll be fighting Orlais on your own with a weakened nation. And I wouldn't bet on you winning.

And then do what exactly? Sit back while Orlais is either winning against Fereldan or is losing. Sit back while the Qunari are conquering territory in the Free Marches? I do not think the Imperium needs to go through Nevarra to reach Orlais.

Yes, it does. Unelss you want it to launch a naval ivnasion, thus passing right by the Qunari in the Free Marches.
And yes, sit back, muster their forces and wait. If the Qunari commit too much forces in th Free Marches, they could strike.
Right now, Tevinter's number one enemy is the Qunari and not the others.

In any case, I don't see the point in arguing this. It's a ff. Do what you like. I don't think I am going to read it anyways(and it's not specifically this ff, I won't be reading any anytime soon). 

[Costin_Razvan]

Would that provide him with money necessary to keep his alliances together and thus himself on the throne?

He would be better off using Lyrium (the oil of its time so to speak) as the ace up his sleave.

And that would most certainly be a card to play...and I think it can be argued that the loss of Lyrium might just as well prevent the Exalted March from happening, if the Alliance between Fereldan and Orzammar is that strong.

I highly doubt Tevinter "templars" use Lyrium. I think they are mages, or that's what I remember.
Regardless, it would be only one country buying Lyrium, instead of several. Big loss.

Not really no. If only Orlais declares war against Fereldan and Orzammar, then it is just Orlais they cut trade ties with. Certainly the templars from other Andrastian countries can and would supply Orlais with Lyrium but if it really was that important then it would be considered a necessary thing even though you aren't destroying the Orlesian Templars.

Would months be sufficient? Considering how the blight destroys not only people, but also land.

Half the country, if even that...with the logistical support from Orzammar and the aid mages could give on restoring the land ( I think they could ), then yes it would be enough in my opinion.

Even Orlais on its own. As I do not believe that the dwarves, or elves are going to help you, because they have no interest to, you'll be fighting Orlais on your own with a weakened nation. And I wouldn't bet on you winnin

Then that's a matter where we have different opinions on. As I do believe they would help me, but even so Fereldan could stand on it's own against Orlais, not defeat it, no, but enough to force Celene to abandon the war.

 Yes, it does. Unelss you want it to launch a naval ivnasion, thus passing right by the Qunari in the Free Marches. 
And yes, sit back, muster their forces and wait. If the Qunari commit too much forces in th Free Marches, they could strike.
Right now, Tevinter's number one enemy is the Qunari and not the others

Assuming the Qunari have not left ships close to the Imperium's coasts to protect themselves against exactly that: A naval threat. While the Qunari are the primary enemy of the Imperium, do not forget that Orlais launched four Exalted marchers against them...I do not think the Imperium looks kindly on Orlais.

And if the Imperium launches a strong military campaign against the Qunari and then Orlais decides to move against it? What then?

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 13 octobre 2010 - 01:30 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ugh, like I said, I couldn't care less about an ff, so I won't waste my time on this, all this has already been discussed to death. Good luck with it.

[Costin_Razvan]

Ah well, it was a rather interesting discussion to be fair.

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