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Where are the rest of the items in Return to Ostagar


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I got the cinematic, got the dying soldier he told me about the key. I went to Ostagar, got the key, fought some Darkspawn, and cleared it out of Dark Spawn I guess I must have picked up one of the items because it says so in my jounal.

I then proceded to wander around for a little bit, in thsi very small area and found there was nothing else there, no Darkspawn, no chest the key was used on, no side passages, no way through barricades, no tunnels, and the brosge was broken so that was un-usable, So Ostagar was nothing more than about 10-15 darkspawn, the burried key and a very small area


The square below was the only accessable area I was able to go into in Return to Ostagar. Which makes perfect sense considering it's detroyed and the areas you used to be able to get into have now been blocked off by wreckage which explains why every end was blocked off, and there was no where else to go once you got the burried key, except to the world map

x = Kings Burried key
d= Darkspawn
>>>>>> the Broken Bridge you cannot cross to get to the other side of Ostagar

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ 
I      x          d   I
I                    d I>>>>>>
I                d     I
I_ _ _ _ _ _ _I


Seeing how there was nothing left to do, no where to go, and nothing else there, I left. (Why stay in an area with nothing to do and nothing there and no where to really go right.) So after I left and played for a while more doing stuff in Ozzamar I was checking my journal for something and I noticed under Preimum content that Ostagar was still there and it was saying how I still need 3 more pieces?

So I saw that Ostagar was and still is greyed out on my map, but I still have the codex credits as well as the journal entry for the quest telling me I need to get them.

Ok now this says to me that since I was already there and Ostagar is now greyed out on the map that you are done with Ostagar and the kings items are elsewhere in Fereldon. Because if they were in fact in Ostagar then I would be able to get back into Ostagar.


So using common sense I know that the key I got opens that kings chest and that's where the remainder of the items are but that leads me to ask this:
Where is that chest?

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Where his tent was before the battle?

From where you get the key, head to where Duncan was standing at the start of the game to the left of the ramp upwards is the old place of Cailans tent, the chest should be there.

EDIT: On your little map its near the top "d", once opened head to the side alley near the tent to get to the bridge to start a cinematic half way across.

EDIT2: I think maybe your map is wrong hold on :P


-----------^^-
I     x          T
=          s ddd =
I          .       D 
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^^ = path to go after open chest
=   = Ramps (left one is where you come down from initially)
s  = statues
d  = darkspawn
T  = Cailan's chest
D  = Duncan's standing spot at start of game
.  = Dog pen.

Modifié par DABhand, 23 juillet 2010 - 02:01 .


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The map information you gave is pointless for 2 reasons:

1. There were only 3 things that were possible, when I went back to Ostagar:
a. Fight some dark spawn
b. Get the burried Key
c. Open the chest

That was it, just those 3 things...There was no other passages opened (They were all blocked off or barricaded, no way through it's exactly as I stated and shown in my map above.

Making areas that are small like that is nothing more than lazyness and totally ****** poor area design on BioWares part.

Here is the second reason why your map information is pointless now...

2. If you don't finish Ostagar while you're there, It's impossible to get back into Ostagar. It becomes greyed out on the map once you leave it. The only way to get back there is to trigger the cinema cut with the wounded soldier and since you cannot retrigger that Scene, you cannot get back to Ostagar.

All the side quests in the Kocori Wilds are the same way (Pinch Of Ashes, The wild Flower for curing the hounds) if you leave Ostagar before you finish them they become impossible to do.

They need to fix these glitches and need to design the areas so the ways through are actually passable.

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:31 .


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I read what else you put, but I tried to help to point out where the chest was to further the map.

The named darkspawn (in yellow) are the ones that have the armor items and one who you chase to the end leads to the sword and dagger Duncan used on the ogre.

The chest contains Maric's sword and letters about Cailans attempt of getting help from Orlais, and the map I shown shows where the chest is in that area with the key.

To reaffirm, you have to open the chest to get the cut scene on the bridge which makes darkspawn come in from both sides and takes down the barrier on the far end.

At least I gave some help to show you where for future characters you play, no need to be nasty with me. Do you expect to get help. And yes when you leave you cant go back, some games do that to force you to fully explore and get everything you can.

Modifié par DABhand, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:31 .


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GOSH I'm sick and tired of idiots on this site.

At least I gave some help to show you where for future characters you play, no need to be nasty with me. Do you expect to get help. And yes when you leave you cant go back, some games do that to force you to fully explore and get everything you can.


Anyone who read the topic would see that I CANNOT GET BACK INTO OSTAGAR so posting a map is plain out right retarded.

Learn how to comprehend what you read before being stupid. The having the balls to say you're trying to help

People ono this forum are just as idiotc as BioWares instructions to things

People need to think before they post.

I'm really sick and tired of people starting problems with me on here then trying to play victim

YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE POSTED THE MAP...THAT IS THE PROBLEM

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:36 .


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Now your using caps, nice going.

If you read above which I edited, by times you posted what you did the same time when I edited the post, I did it so you can do for future characters and know where to look.

With your nasty attitude, I wont be helping you in the future.

Modifié par DABhand, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:35 .


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Don't you have a lot of balls you jack ass


With your nasty attitude, I wont be helping you in the future

It's your own fault 

YOU DO NOT POST A MAP TO A PLACE AFTER YOU READ THAT I CANNOT GET BACK IN THERE THEN TRY TO PLAY VICTIM AND ACT ALL GREAT. YOU SCREWED UP AND PURPOSELY DID THAT JUST TO COMPLAIN

so why don't you just shut the hell up and go cry elsewhere

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:39 .


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You could always load a save prior to returning to Ostagar...but that's just my two penniesworth of common sense;)

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lol



I am not the one right now acting like a spoilt 5 year old.



I have helped others in different threads with problems with hardware etc.



To make it easier for you to understand...



I posted what I did to explain what you have to do there, I know you cant go back once you leave everyone does, but people with common sense would see the post was to explain what the process I explained was to further the map, and obviously for a future character.



Its not a bug in the game, that is how it is. How you missed the chest is mind boggling as it is just before the only way to the bridge and smacks you in the face. Not my problem, not anyone else's problem, its your's as your obviously a person who has no patience evident by the fact you left the area with the quest not completed and the way you responded here.



Last post from me here, but please do continue to rant and rave and call me all sorts.

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This DLC is broken along with the toolset

And if you don't want to be called names then stop being stupid.

It's that simple.

All you should have said, and all that needs to be said is this:

Sorry but if you leave Ostagar before you finish there you cannot go back and the areas you need to go are totally blocked off except this one way which is so hidden you will miss it every time because BioWare has very ****** poor Area design as well as instructions or lack thereof.

That's all you have to say.

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 23 juillet 2010 - 04:49 .


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Zero, rein in the attitude.  He tried to help and you're throwing a tantrum.  No need for that.

Modifié par Tarmack, 23 juillet 2010 - 05:02 .


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Zero, rein in the attitude. He tried to help and you're throwing a tantrum. No need for that.


Look here steakhead! I don't care who you are and I don't care either.  HOW DARE YOU COME INTO A THERAD I MADE AND PROTECT SOMEONE THAT STARTED ON ME AND TELL ME I HAVE TO TAKE CRAP FROM FORUM MEMBERS AND THEN PROTECT THE FORUM MEMBERS BY TELLING ME TO CHILL!

You better wake up if you think that's happening because I'm beyond sick and tired of all these forum ass clowns coming into my thread, starting crap, then having mods like you take their side just because I said something back.

This double teaming crap IS GOING TO STOP. You want respect then I BETTER GET IT FIRST.

So if you don't like thsi response well too bad you should have thought about that before taking teh side of someone who came into MY thread and started this BS with me.

and dont' try and play stupid either you read my reply I explain EXACTLY what the rpoblem is.

So if your ead that and still want to play games then I'm only going to ge6t ruder towards you for starting on me.

I got news for you and anyone else pal! If a forum member starts on me I WILL BE SAYING SOMETHING BACK  AND TOO BAD IF YOU OR ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE IT WELL THEN YOU BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING TO WARRANT IT... DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR ON THIS.

GOOD BECUASE LATER ON WHEN THIS HAPPENS AGAIN NO ONE IS GOING TO START WITH ME AND THEN PLAY VICTIM THEN GET THE MODS TO PROTECT THEM..
SORRY NOT HPPENING

YOU CREATE A PROBLEM THEN YOU BETTER DEAL WITH IT LIKE AN ADULT..

So I'll make this really simple.
Don't start on me in PM OR ANY OF MY THREADS AND I WON'T BE SAYING ANYTHING...See how simple that is....

On you now!

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 23 juillet 2010 - 08:34 .


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"YOU DO NOT POST A MAP TO A PLACE AFTER YOU READ THAT I CANNOT GET BACK IN THERE THEN TRY TO PLAY VICTIM AND ACT ALL GREAT. YOU SCREWED UP AND PURPOSELY DID THAT JUST TO COMPLAIN"





How old are you? Also, the map is very useful in many ways, mainly A) because it is more descriptive than yours, even though posting a map is bad doo doo despite you doing so in your opening post. B) just because you can't get back to Ostagar doesn't mean that you cannot use the map in future reference for every OTHER time you go there with a new character.





you're a ****ing idiot. seriously, read your last post (the one above mine if that's too hard to comprehend), you're an outright moron. You post threads asking for help and when someone offers it all you talk about is dick and balls. Because THATS the way to help... way to go dick'n'balls guy.

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The guy is young that is for sure.



Apparently in his toolset video thread he PM'd one of the people who replied and gave him abuse, I shant use the person's name it is up to him to say if he wants, but he also give him a bashing in the last post which he edited and removed.



He is either 1 of these 3 choices.



1. Young and impatient.

2. Older and Always thinks they are right.

3. A troll. Purposely trying to get reactions.



Either one I dont care now, I hope they IP ban him.



Attacking a mod who was just telling him to calm down, in now way was the mod helping me, is just plain stupid.



Again OP thinks I am being rude etc, but all I did was help the guy originally, because it was not the answer he wanted he goes off on a stupid childish rampage, and even used CAPS like a child.



The guy obviously has issues. And not making much friends here or IRL no doubt.

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ZeroMystic wrote...

This double teaming crap IS GOING TO STOP. You want respect then I BETTER GET IT FIRST.


if one wants respect, one has to  behave respectfully.
calling other people names wont earn you any respect.

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if one wants respect, one has to behave respectfully.calling other people names wont earn you any respect.




Exactly



So if people don't want to be called names then stop starting problems with me...Simple



Who created this topic?........ME



Who came into my thread and started on me first.....EVERYONE ELSE



It's perfectly clear who is at fault.



So yeah ruudg You're right everyone needs to stop being rude to me and I will stop calling them names..



Thanks for backing me up

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LOL please do take your own advice and read what is written.



She quoted you and said YOU. Not anyone else but YOU.

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You started this thread to get assistance. You received help, but it was not to your liking so you went on an attack...



I have seen children throw better tantrums when they don't get what they want. They also don't receive respect. Good luck with the rest of your game ZeroMystic. Lucky it is singleplayer...

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CWedge wrote...
Good luck with the rest of your game ZeroMystic. Lucky it is singleplayer...


In mmorpg's i mostly leave the party when there are these kind of players in it 8-)

Luckely i got  good friendslists, so i dont have to experience this kind of crap lol

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I'm not the one in your topic. You people are in my topic. All of you came into my topic and started this whole mess.

So when all of you start acting like adults and stop following people into topics they create and purposely going out of your way to cause problems, then try and blame the person whose topic you came into.

Maybe the forum would be better off without you children!

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 24 juillet 2010 - 01:42 .


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The reason Ostagar may be greyed out is because your DLC didn't authenticate properly, and you saved your game while it wasn't activated. This has been known to cause conflicts. Ostagar should remain open indefinitely, even after leaving it, and after completing the Return to Ostagar DLC. You can try to use console commands to rectify the issue by staring the Return to Ostagar quest again, though this might cause further problems. The only surefire way to fix it would be to reload an earlier save. Annoying, I know, but that's Dragon Age and DLC for you. My suggestion is to not buy any in the future if BioWare can't fix its compatibility and DRM problems.

For the record, it is totally possible to get across the bridge. It's blocked on one side only, if I recall correctly. It's a little bit hard to see, though, due to some of the barricades etc. You can try zooming the camera out and right-clicking on the ground near the bridge, and your party should navigate there themselves.

Modifié par searanox, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:15 .


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ZeroMystic wrote...

I'm not the one in your topic. You people are in my topic. All of you came into my topic and started this whole mess.

So when all of you start acting like adults and stop following people into topics they create and purposely going out of your way to cause problems, then try and blame the person whose topic you came into.

Maybe the forum would be better off without you children!


You are an idiot, 98% of every single thread you start always has you complaining by post 3 or round about. You deliberately set up threads so when people try to help you always ALWAYS do the "Did you not read" excuse to start an argument.

It is evident, and there for all to see.

You cant even use a toolset, im sure Bioware are working on a special press 1 button version for you to make it sooooo much easier. I had a look at it, and it was self explanatory mostly, you failed at using it. Thusly you have no patience to actually learn.

You also have no patience in game.

You had no patience in WoW where you are known to be the big head and have been beaten countless times in PvP to which you complain in 2/ that people are idiots just because they beat you and things dont go your way.

I seriously doubt you are married, and your only joy in life is to try and make people as miserable as you are.

Good luck in life really I do hope you meet the wall or lamppost of your dreams which would be ideal for you since they dont answer back.

And one final remark, when you open a thread on a public forum owned by a company, 1. Anyone is entitled to come into it and post and 2. it is not your thread it is Bioware's.

Modifié par DABhand, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:50 .


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DABhand, Your so called help was never wanted in here in the first place, the first 2 replies of mine blatantly show that. But you just couldn't leave well enough alone could you!

Your second reply in this thread, was, and still is 100% totally inappropriate, and is 100% completely uncalled for, and not to mention has no place even remotely being in here.

You came in here, forced unwanted help, just so you could ****** and moan about me not taking your forced unwanted help that no one ever even asked for. So you have no business complaining I said something to you after your second reply. Anyone else who tries to deny this when it's all right there in this thread is just other trouble makers. Most likely your friends.

Now that I have shown you to be a trouble maker just get lost or I'm reporting you for harrassment.

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:12 .


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Yeah thats right I came in here, held you at gunpoint and forced you to accept my help. Then I kidnapped your mother and sold her to the closest hutt for 5 million republican credits.



No wait that was sarcasm, incase you did not read it correctly the first time, which is your own main failing not able to read when you tell everyone else to.



Lets see you current arsehattness on the forums, you post a subject, someone comes in and posts a reply in good faith, and you have a epileptic fit saying they didnt read the thread or the title of the thread, QQ and more QQ, and accuse people of attacking you.



Lets look at my 2nd reply, my 2nd reply was a reply to your previous reply which you have edited thinking it would escape undetected, wrong as you clearly state your 5 year old nature by refusing to acknowledge that it was useful information, this is the same thing you have done in all your hopefull-troll induced threads.



Face it how many fans have you got here, and on WoW? I can tell you right now I have found out more about you on WoW, and you have very little if not any at all fans on there, everyone hates you there, you think your amazing at PvP and then you get slapped about and complain about rogue stun locks and so forth, all because you do NOT understand the game, as per usual you jump in with both feet and hope everything runs on 1 button and everything is easily explainable. I.e. it has to slap you in the face.



But even slap you in the face information doesn't reach your brain, like for instance the chest you couldn't find in Ostagar to further the story, a 5 year old paraplegic kid could have found it, hell a blind person could have found it.



And whats more your not married, so lets not talk bull on this side, "Oh I am married and have a daughter" absolute BS. You have no life, you stay with your mother... how do I know your wondering.... remember me talking about WoW, some of your "friends" were nice enough to dish dirt.



And then you have the gall to attack a member of staff when he asked you to calm down, to which I am bemused at why you didnt even get a ban for that, that shows how much disrespect you show to people, your life sucks we dont care, does it make it better for you to randomly target people who reply to a new thread you make? Wow your life sucks.



Mine? mine is fine, im happy, im laughing my head off at your poor attempt at trolling, I have also got a bit of money, no worries, nice gf, nice family... I know your jealous you wished you had those things too... must be hard when you ask a girl if she wants to goto the "Shinema thish weekend", dont feel bad each time you do and they fall to the ground in laughter, because that is your destiny to be laughed at..



And to think if you shown some respect nobody would be thinking you are a waste of space.

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This is pathetic.
Zero, I think you need to just stop replying.

DAB just gave you some information, maybe it won't help you on your current playthrough unless you revert to an old save-game, but it will help you in future with other playthroughs etc.

@DAB: I know this guy isn't exactly easy to work witth but maybe you should stop helping him, maybe everyone should because that just gives him the attention he wants so badly for whatever reason.

Now with all that said, I think all this flaming is a waste of everybody's time.