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[FuturePasTimeCE]

rabidhanar wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
vulcans are not homospaiens... that's to say humans and vulcans have entirely different dna make up... and evolved from different species...  a vulcan's blood is green, human's red... vulcans could have evolved from foxes/canine, humans evolved from chimps/simian... 

just because they look alike doesn't mean they're anything alike... they're not human/******-sapiens. they're totally alien with each other's genetics... 

but instead of callimg someone a ****** sapien, you can call them SENTIENT ... and they communicate, talk, think, have boobs, etc ... = sentient... humans (****** sapiens) are sentient... aswell as vulcans, and qaurians in this sense...  

The point is that Vulcans should never have been able to reproduce with humans, it biologically could not happen. To think that this combination could have viable offspring is absurd.

but yet spock a main character is half human... explain.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

InvaderErl wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Shwiggliness wrote...

Did you not ya know, hear the whole part of how sex was gonna kill her immune system?
She ain't preggers. Just sick.

And it was totally worth it, apparantly. I wouldn't know, as my character mysteriously blacked out as we were about to go at it. Weird that. I'll have to take her word for it. Maybe I was drugged and raped? 

Tali, I found these roofies at your work station in engineering, know anything about that? 

Wow.

So the entire crew's been drugging and having its way with Shepard.

Dear God.

 as long as there's no dudes... shepard doesn't care. 

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:01 .

[Sajuro]

PARAGON87 wrote...

Humans are levo-amino acid based, quarians are dextro-amino acid based. The two physiologies would not intertwine to create offspring because it is biologically not possible.

You forget that Shepard is a super-natural love machine. He visisted the Virgin Islands, now they're just the Islands.

[rabidhanar]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

but yet spock a main character is half human... explain.

That is still the point of our posts.

To Clarrify : SPOCK AND OTHER HALF BREEDS COULD NOT HAPPEN, BIOLOGICALLY!!!!

They could not exist in any circumstance, unless the species each had 99% shared DNA they could not create offspring. The Zygote could not form, the gametes would not fuse = no baby.

Not that hard to understand. Star Trek takes some aspects of it's lore too far, especially to those of us who know better. It does not matter if a main character is a half breed, it still doesn't make sense.

I'm not disrespecting Star Trek, im just stating the Facts.

[Davidrules]

Is this topic really that big?

[angj57]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...


just because they look alike doesn't mean they're anything alike... they're not human/******-sapiens. they're totally alien with each other's genetics... 

but instead of callimg someone a ****** sapien, you can call them SENTIENT ... and they communicate, talk, think, have boobs, etc ... = sentient... humans (****** sapiens) are sentient... aswell as vulcans, and qaurians in this sense...  

They aren't the same species because the look alike, they are the same species if they can produce viable offspring.

[Count Viceroy]

Sajuro wrote...

You forget that Shepard is a super-natural love machine. He visisted the Virgin Islands, now they're just the Islands.

Kirk 2.0. Bonus points if they are blue.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:06 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

angj57 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...


just because they look alike doesn't mean they're anything alike... they're not human/******-sapiens. they're totally alien with each other's genetics... 

but instead of callimg someone a ****** sapien, you can call them SENTIENT ... and they communicate, talk, think, have boobs, etc ... = sentient... humans (****** sapiens) are sentient... aswell as vulcans, and qaurians in this sense...  

They aren't the same species because the look alike, they are the same species if they can produce viable offspring.

maybe because they're all sentient? and dna may or may not be compatible of other species.

[angj57]

rabidhanar wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

but yet spock a main character is half human... explain.

That is still the point of our posts.

To Clarrify : SPOCK AND OTHER HALF BREEDS COULD NOT HAPPEN, BIOLOGICALLY!!!!

They could not exist in any circumstance, unless the species each had 99% shared DNA they could not create offspring. The Zygote could not form, the gametes would not fuse = no baby.

Not that hard to understand. Star Trek takes some aspects of it's lore too far, especially to those of us who know better. It does not matter if a main character is a half breed, it still doesn't make sense.

I'm not disrespecting Star Trek, im just stating the Facts.

Thank you! Someone who actually passed high school biology! Amazing!

And, like you said, I am not bashing Star Trek or saying that it isn't entertaining. But there are elements of it that don't make any sense, and those elements don't need to be imported into Mass Effect just because they are in Star Trek.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

rabidhanar wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

but yet spock a main character is half human... explain.

That is still the point of our posts.

To Clarrify : SPOCK AND OTHER HALF BREEDS COULD NOT HAPPEN, BIOLOGICALLY!!!!

They could not exist in any circumstance, unless the species each had 99% shared DNA they could not create offspring. The Zygote could not form, the gametes would not fuse = no baby.

Not that hard to understand. Star Trek takes some aspects of it's lore too far, especially to those of us who know better. It does not matter if a main character is a half breed, it still doesn't make sense.

I'm not disrespecting Star Trek, im just stating the Facts.

:unsure:well since the matrix is built on fake rules... such futuristic cross breeding seem impossible inside it.

[InvaderErl]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
maybe because they're all sentient? and dna may or may not be compatible of other species.

A Human could not mate with a primate and expect to produce offspring so how are they going to mate with entirely different species?

Modifié par InvaderErl, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:09 .

[Sajuro]

Davidrules wrote...

Is this topic really that big?

Yes! How else will we know if we need a 'punch Tali in the stomach' renegade interrupt?

[FuturePasTimeCE]

InvaderErl wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
maybe because they're all sentient? and dna may or may not be compatible of other species.

Humans can't mate with chimps so how are they going to mate with entirely different species?

I don't want to bone a non-sentient animal (chimp/etc - not into **** like that)... humans are nothing more than sentient animals... where do humans come from if some type of cross breeding never occurred?

[Netzach]

I will ask cerberus for help on that, sure they'll find a way

[Annihilator27]

Davidrules wrote...

Anyone who chose the romance story with Tali in Mass Effect 2 should have an idea of what I'm talking about here.  (Spoiler Alert)  After you beat Mass Effect 2 and destroy the Collector Base, you can go back and talk to everyone and they can share what they thought about the mission.  If you chose Tali to be your romance option in Mass Effect 2, she says she has a fever, a nasty cough, and some substance coming from her sinuses.  It may just be that quarians have weak immune systems, but I have a feeling that it might be morning sickness and that Tali may be pregnant.  That would really get you going in Mass Effect 3.  Just think about it before writing me hate mail.

Dear god, What have you done. I can see the Migrant fleet in the distance.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

mrsph wrote...

Are you idiots seriously trying to justify this by using a completely different ****ing sci-fi setting that has different rules?

but within the game itself... they constantly present the ideas of the ASARI's having babies with any species... like the krogan, salarians, humans, turians... so technically you're not basing any sci fi scenario with another sci fi setting... 

[rabidhanar]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
maybe because they're all sentient? and dna may or may not be compatible of other species.

Facepalm......Okay how old are you really???

To start over, unless two creatures share 99% of their DNA, they cannot create offspring. I.E. A mule is formed by two organisms: A horse and a Donkey, that both share 99% DNA, The mule is the offspring. This is why humans and Chimpanzees (Creature that Shares 96% DNA with humans) cannot reproduce together to form offspring. Now as the Aliens in the universe obviously could not evolve to the rate that they share 99% DNA with one another, They could not produce half-breeds (No Vulcon and Human can create children, it would be impossible)

Now as to the Tali situation. Tali does not even share the same type of DNA as Shepard, let alone share 99% of his/her DNA. Tali and Shepard cannot have children together. Is this Understandable.

[kglaser]

rabidhanar wrote...

No Vulcon and Human can create children, it would be impossible

Spock is half-human, half-Vulcan.

[drunken pyromaniac]

What...

[rabidhanar]

kglaser wrote...

rabidhanar wrote...

No Vulcon and Human can create children, it would be impossible

Spock is half-human, half-Vulcan.

Seriously, please read my posts higher up, they explain how this could not happen. I do not care if in the story it occurs, Scientifically (What Sci-Fi is half based on) it could not occur.

[Sajuro]

rabidhanar wrote...

kglaser wrote...

rabidhanar wrote...

No Vulcon and Human can create children, it would be impossible

Spock is half-human, half-Vulcan.

Seriously, please read my posts higher up, they explain how this could not happen. I do not care if in the story it occurs, Scientifically (What Sci-Fi is half based on) it could not occur.

Well apparently it can occur in universe, there is also the fiction part.

[rabidhanar]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
but within the game itself... they constantly present the ideas of the ASARI's having babies with any species... like the krogan, salarians, humans, turians... so technically you're not basing any sci fi scenario with another sci fi setting... 

Asari are different in this sense, they have an in-game scientific reasoning for this to occur.

Asari only use their partner to scramble the dna of their second set of dna to their offspring. They do not have to have sex to reproduce, by melding (does not have to involve contact) they reproduce. This is similar to a certain type of lizard (forgot name) that is all female. The females find one another, touch (faking sexual movements) and create clones of themselves. Asari do a similar thing to these lizards, but do not need to touch physically, they have to touch mentally (biotic link).

[angj57]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Are you idiots seriously trying to justify this by using a completely different ****ing sci-fi setting that has different rules?

but within the game itself... they constantly present the ideas of the ASARI's having babies with any species... like the krogan, salarians, humans, turians... so technically you're not basing any sci fi scenario with another sci fi setting... 

The Mass Effect writers, who actually DO seem to have some concept of anatomy and biology, have told us a THOUSAND times that Asari do not reproduce conventionally. THREE different Asari characters and the CODEX have each told us that, when Asari reproduce, they don't accept DNA from the father, they simply use their mate to randomize their own DNA. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I am sure that they have made this so clear simply to avoid the problems we have been talking about.

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

That's just sickening. We all know the reason why Tali and Shepard can't have kids so let's all grow up and move from this topic. Okay?