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[chocolateokku]

i've been talking to morrigan and she gave me the quest to go kill flemeth.  in the questbook it says she wants me to go kill flemeth and that i can find flemeth at the same place i saw her last, but when i go back to flemeth's house there is no one there and the door is locked and can't be opened without a key.  can anyone help?

thanks

[internaty inmortelaty]

tryed reentering the area otherwise no idea

[Skills99]

You cannot have Morrigan with you when you enter the area.



Good Luck.

[chocolateokku]

oohhhh thanks

[chocolateokku]

alright i got to flemeth and i was wondering what would happen if i just took the grimoire and let her live? would anything beneficial happen for me like maybe having flemeth join me or something?

[reddragon567]

No sadly.



I liked Flemeth a LOT more than her daughter. I really wish she was a recruitable character.

[FlintlockJazz]

reddragon567 wrote...

No sadly.

I liked Flemeth a LOT more than her daughter. I really wish she was a recruitable character.

I found that Morrigan came across like a spoilt brat myself, while Flemeth actually seemed like someone deserving of respect.  She was alright at first, but over time Morrigan has started to come across as one of those rich kids who thinks that all poor people are lazy and stupid while hanging onto her daddy's credit card.

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 10 novembre 2009 - 03:16 .

[chocolateokku]

so yeah i just killed flemeth and i paused the game with sten on top of her about to kill her. it'd make a really cool screenshot, but when i hit printscreen (the button that options says takes pictures) nothing happens.

[chocolateokku]

nevermind i figured it out...its because you cant take a screenshot while paused apparently

[Darke1]

I have to say i find Flemeth more annoying than Morrigan. I dont really like the whole "mad old woman" thing. I like Morrigan and think of her not so much as a spoilt brat as a sheltered person who grew up with animals for friends and not people.



She just doesnt know how society works, she looks on everything as a wild animal would, survival of the fittest. She just doesnt really relate to poeple well.

[FlintlockJazz]

Darke1 wrote...

I have to say i find Flemeth more annoying than Morrigan. I dont really like the whole "mad old woman" thing. I like Morrigan and think of her not so much as a spoilt brat as a sheltered person who grew up with animals for friends and not people.

She just doesnt know how society works, she looks on everything as a wild animal would, survival of the fittest. She just doesnt really relate to poeple well.

Yeah, I respected her 'survival of the fittest' viewpoint at first, but then after her rant at the Circle Tower I just lost all respect for her and considered her a hypocrite, as she was all for freeing Jowan and Sten despite the fact that they had gotten themselves caught no matter how powerful they were and therefore had failed at surviving yet was against helping the mages despite the fact that Wynne had proven more adept at survival by having resisted being caught or killed by the blood mages or abominations.  I realised then that it wasn't really a case of survival of the fittest but her own prejudiced views, and just wished that there was an option to call her out on it, would have been amusing to see how it turned out.

Morrigan's all ready to judge how others lead their lives, yet if it wasn't for Flemeth she would have been just another Circle Mage, or dead.

EDIT:  Oh, just thought I'd mention, though I find her annoying I do actually like the character of Morrigan, as she actually elicits a response even if it's one of dislike, which proves that she's a good and interesting character!

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 10 novembre 2009 - 04:29 .

[tabathamax]

I have not gotten to that quest yet but I do not mind spoilers:) So far I Like Morrigan, she is a bit wise at times but I also just does not think she does not know how to act around other people. Sounds to me what I have gotten out of her so far Flemeth was not a very good mother. Allistair with all of his whining annoys me!

[Relshar]

How did you kill Flemith? She just wiped my group out at level 10.

[Tamcia]

It was really hard to kill her. Yeah she gave me an option to get the grimoire, but what the hell, more kills

[Kyero]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

reddragon567 wrote...

No sadly.

I liked Flemeth a LOT more than her daughter. I really wish she was a recruitable character.

I found that Morrigan came across like a spoilt brat myself, while Flemeth actually seemed like someone deserving of respect.  She was alright at first, but over time Morrigan has started to come across as one of those rich kids who thinks that all poor people are lazy and stupid while hanging onto her daddy's credit card.

I wonder how you would turn up being raised by a crazy witch who lives IN A SWAMP!

Great judge of character guys, Congratz

[FlintlockJazz]

Kyero wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

reddragon567 wrote...

No sadly.

I liked Flemeth a LOT more than her daughter. I really wish she was a recruitable character.

I found that Morrigan came across like a spoilt brat myself, while Flemeth actually seemed like someone deserving of respect.  She was alright at first, but over time Morrigan has started to come across as one of those rich kids who thinks that all poor people are lazy and stupid while hanging onto her daddy's credit card.

I wonder how you would turn up being raised by a crazy witch who lives IN A SWAMP!

Great judge of character guys, Congratz

Are you flaming me for how I perceive a character?  If so, I'm really sorry for daring to have a different opinion from you.  I found her to be overly judgemental and stuck up, especially since if it wasn't for Flemeth she would have just turned out the same as all the other Circle Mages she casts her aspersions on.

[Toom316]

You need to remember for Morrigan she doesn't have ALOT of experience interacting with other people. Heck even when get tries to haggle with a merchant it turns out bad in the end. So it's not as much her wanting to be that way and more to do with how she was raised in isolation then anything else.

[FlintlockJazz]

Toom316 wrote...

You need to remember for Morrigan she doesn't have ALOT of experience interacting with other people. Heck even when get tries to haggle with a merchant it turns out bad in the end. So it's not as much her wanting to be that way and more to do with how she was raised in isolation then anything else.

Well, you could say the same for many spoiled kids these days since they often don't have any real world experience hence why they can be so judgemental.  The fact that she seems to polarise people on how likable/unlikable she is just goes to show how well they developed her character.

[Zarvitz]

did anyone agree to make the deal with Flemeth and not fight her, but just take the grim. if so, how does that affect your standing with Morrigan?

[Giantmoth]

I'm considering doing just that. Because, what the hell. Flemeth is no great evil, even if she IS using her daughters bodies to sustain her life, it's not like she is leading an army to destroy the world or such. She just sits in her swamp.



Or at least that's what she knows. Eitherway, she saved your characters life, AND you've got biger fish to fry. Just didn't feel right to go kill her.

[chocolateokku]

Relshar wrote...

How did you kill Flemith? She just wiped my group out at level 10.

i had sten, me (blood mage with most of the entropy tree filled out), wynne, and that bard lady (can't remember her name).  had sten go up there and beat on her while i kept up the hex of vulnerability and mainly just kept hittin her from afar with my staff.  had wynne keep up heals back there with me and had the bard lady sitting back and shooting arrrows at her (only reason i brought her was cause i didn't want anyone besides sten taking any dmg because of her aoe melee attacks).  had the full dragon armor on sten and used a lot of healing potions.  took awhile but i finally got her down. i think i was lvl 11 at the time.

Modifié par chocolateokku, 10 novembre 2009 - 07:15 .

[jfb3neo]

Thanks for posting this! I was a bit frustrated when I went to the hut to find I could not get in due to a locked door. I assumed I should bring Morrigan with me since this was her quest, but now I understand. You saved me a lot of banging my head against the wall.

[MistySun]

There is no need to kill Flemeth....she will give you the key to take the book to Morrigan if you choose to do so. Contrary to what was rumoured Flemeth does not kill Morrigan after that.

[CRGiles_]

I did not find any major difference in my playthroughs from killing Flemmeth to not killing her.

Or giving Morrigan the grimore or keeping it myself.

Maybe will affect things later in a sequel.

[Silent Storm]

I only brought the game cuz Kate Mulgrew talks for Flemmeth - and Im so glad I did!! I didn't kill her, I lied and said I had. I think though Morrigans approval rate goes up a bit if you give her the grimore, thats what I did.