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[Mox Ruuga]

A controversial opinion among the Bioware fandom, I know. But I kinda feel like the discussions and kvetching about the various options, who should be, who shouldn't be, etc. overwhelm any other discussion. Not completely, it has to be said, but I dread something like the Tali crazies taking hold over the DA fandom. Thank goodness the "love" was evenly distributed among every character of DA:O...

I realize it is too late at this point, but no harm in making our voices heard as well, just to let the devs know that the dating sim aspect of the games are NOT the main selling point for everyone, and that it might have been refreshing to not have romances in this game?

[Collider]

I wouldn't mind no romances. I prefer friendships with party members.

[Rubbish Hero]

I like way Baldurs Gate do it, I screw Viconia and it feel natural. In Dragon Age, bar chart used, contrived, crappy, over obvious, not natural. Want it, just no badly executed in super crappy contrived obvious manner for nubs.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 23 juillet 2010 - 11:03 .

[Wittand25]

What stopps you from not playing a romance if you dont like it?

Saying there should be no romances because I dont like romances is like saying there should be no warrior class available for Hawke because I only play rogues and mages. As long as the romances are not forced on the player I see little point beeing upset about them.

[BlackyBlack]

What's wrong with having extra options? That's like saying you want DAO to have less side quests. I don't see the problem when they're optional

[Wuxia]

No romances would make DA2 go from good to amazing. I know they are optional but you often can't really get to know party members without pushing the romances.

Romances in recent Bioware games, in my opinion of course, are the most cringe-inducing and poorly executed content of games I have ever seen.

'Hello member of other sex'
'Hello'
'I agree'
'Let's start a hilarious yet for some reason highly controversial cutscene'

No Thanks.

Also I find the fanatics on the ME2 forum somewhat disturbing.

I wouldn't mind it if you could have friendships with party members and weren't forced to pursue them to find out more about your party members. Also they wouldn't be as bad if the options weren't: a) be a nice guy and be forced to romance them or be a jerk.

Modifié par Banon Loire, 23 juillet 2010 - 11:04 .

[Collider]

Well, what I think is, if no romances, then there should deep friendships.

if there ARE romances, an m/m & f/f option(s) should be included.

[Anarya]

No, I have to admit the romances are one of my favorite aspects of Bioware games, partly because it's something that sets their games apart from others. That and the great writing. I completely understand why people might be disinterested or put off by them, but they're also totally optional and not in any way necessary to play the rest of the game, so I think even if I hated the romances I would still want them there so others could have the option of experiencing them.

[Anarya]

Banon Loire wrote...

No romances would make DA2 go from good to amazing. I know they are optional but you often can't really get to know party members without pushing the romances.

I feel like this is the case with the ME1&2 companions but I think in DAO you could really get to know your party members while not romancing them. I understand they're making the romance starter lines more obvious and therefore easier to avoid in DA2.

[Wittand25]

Banon Loire wrote...

No romances would make DA2 go from good to amazing. I know they are optional but you often can't really get to know party members without pushing the romances.

Romances in recent Bioware games, in my opinion of course, are the most cringe-inducing and poorly executed content of games I have ever seen.

'Hello member of other sex'
'Hello'
'I agree'
'Let's start a hilarious yet for some reason highly controversial cutscene'

No Thanks.

Also I find the fanatics on the ME2 forum somewhat disturbing.

But DA:O was great in that regard, you could still be friends with all the four LI even if you did not pursue the romance. ME2 was a big step back from that but I am confident that relationships in DA2 would be similar to those in DA:O and not those in ME2.
I agree that the romances have been far to easy ever since BG2, the last game that actually made you thing about what you said to your LI and the last time that a romance could actually fail without the player intending so.(I never forgive Aeri for dumping my PC after he got raped in the Underdark)

[swirlwind]

Anarya wrote...

No, I have to admit the romances are one of my favorite aspects of Bioware games, partly because it's something that sets their games apart from others. That and the great writing. I completely understand why people might be disinterested or put off by them, but they're also totally optional and not in any way necessary to play the rest of the game, so I think even if I hated the romances I would still want them there so others could have the option of experiencing them.

Well put. My thoughts exactly.

[Wotannanow]

Romance is an important part of life.

Without it life is empty. Without it, Dragon Age is empty.

[Loc'n'lol]

Banon Loire wrote...
Also I find the fanatics on the ME2 forum somewhat disturbing.

Yeah same with the DAO ones... Some people seem to take romances a little bit too personally...
Maybe Bioware should start making Dating sim games. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]
I don't really mind one way or another. If there are romances, great, I will take that. If there aren't, it's alright, there are other things to look forward to.

[Collider]

I think while I personally wouldn't mind not having them, they appeal to a lot of people and should be put in.

[Behindyounow]

I won't cry if theres no romances.

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Hey you, if you don't want romance, don't pursue it with said NPC. Simple.

[Bobad]

Romance has never been a pre-requisite to finishing these games, nor enjoying it, if you don't want to experience the option don't.

There's no need to remove something that is completely optional.

[JasonPogo]

love romances in games so I vote yes put them in. Also for Bioware the romance is as expected as good writing at this point. I think the backlash from most Bioware fanboys and girls would be epic.

[Anarya]

JasonPogo wrote...

love romances in games so I vote yes put them in. Also for Bioware the romance is as expected as good writing at this point. I think the backlash from most Bioware fanboys and girls would be epic.

Oh I'm sure they're well aware of this. I don't think you need to worry about that.

[zahra]

I would just like a very well written relationship. A deep friendship would be nice. Romances are not on my list of MUST BE THEREs. I started liking Morrigan more when I stumbled upon a dialog option where she responds with this heartfelt "I have risked death and much more for you, I would not endanger you with blood magic" (not specific words, but something along this line).



Most of the dialog with Morrigan was mostly character exposition, (how she grew up, magic etc) when I would rather read things like that in the codex, and have conversations about things that are actually happening around us, it would make it feel less like they were talking boxes that I could click on to get x, y etc. Don't get me wrong, some of these convos were enlightening and endeared the characters to me (i.e. Zevs story of being bought on the slave market, Morrigans mirror, Alistairs amulet, etc) but I would rather have a convo with Leliana about letting Connor/Isolde die/killing the High Dragon (hey guys, wasn't that awesome? Hi-five.) rather than a long description of Val Royeaux.



I dunno, in real life when I meet friends from other countries, I don't say "Tell me about Italy/Belgium/Nigeria etc." Maybe what the food is like or if certain traditions are the same or what is the best place to go do whatever. Dialog like that is so blatantly intended as exposition my eyes glaze over in the middle of the conversation.



Romances are fun, but what is important is the depth of the character. Awakening felt dull not because of the lack of romances (though I would have romanced the pants off Anders if it was an option) but because I really didn't feel connected to the characters. They were just talking boxes.

[darkiddd]

Banon Loire wrote...

No romances would make DA2 go from good to amazing. I know they are optional but you often can't really get to know party members without pushing the romances.

Romances in recent Bioware games, in my opinion of course, are the most cringe-inducing and poorly executed content of games I have ever seen.

'Hello member of other sex'
'Hello'
'I agree'
'Let's start a hilarious yet for some reason highly controversial cutscene'

No Thanks.

Also I find the fanatics on the ME2 forum somewhat disturbing.

I wouldn't mind it if you could have friendships with party members and weren't forced to pursue them to find out more about your party members. Also they wouldn't be as bad if the options weren't: a) be a nice guy and be forced to romance them or be a jerk.

If you don't like romances you can avoid them, as simple as that.
And I find very logic and obvious to know better a companion if you romance her/him than if you don't. You can't expect to have the same familiarity with a companion whom you are friend or whom you are lover.

[Anarya]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I appreciate some people don't need or want this content, but I also don't think that people who enjoy such content (and even spend an inordinate amount of time discussing it) are weird, unreasonable, or desperate. If I was those things I would play dating sims...but I don't want to play dating sims. I want an interesting romance woven into the framework of an epic story. What Bioware does in other words.

Wall of text=ouch.....sorry.

Totally agree. I don't buy or play dating sims. Much as I love the Bioware romances I would have about zero interest in a pure dating sim with no other gameplay aspect. Also I think it's funny that people think romance-lovers are lonely weirdos given the amount of married or otherwise non-single fans I see around the boards.

[zahra]

Anarya wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I appreciate some people don't need or want this content, but I also don't think that people who enjoy such content (and even spend an inordinate amount of time discussing it) are weird, unreasonable, or desperate. If I was those things I would play dating sims...but I don't want to play dating sims. I want an interesting romance woven into the framework of an epic story. What Bioware does in other words.

Wall of text=ouch.....sorry.

Totally agree. I don't buy or play dating sims. Much as I love the Bioware romances I would have about zero interest in a pure dating sim with no other gameplay aspect. Also I think it's funny that people think romance-lovers are lonely weirdos given the amount of married or otherwise non-single fans I see around the boards.

lol, all my friends who are hardcore Alistair/Zev fans are either married or in a relationship.