306 réponses à ce sujet

[mopotter]

Tirigon wrote...

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A controversial opinion among the Bioware fandom, I know. But I kinda feel like the discussions and kvetching about the various options, who should be, who shouldn't be, etc. overwhelm any other discussion. Not completely, it has to be said, but I dread something like the Tali crazies taking hold over the DA fandom. Thank goodness the "love" was evenly distributed among every character of DA:O...

I realize it is too late at this point, but no harm in making our voices heard as well, just to let the devs know that the dating sim aspect of the games are NOT the main selling point for everyone, and that it might have been refreshing to not have romances in this game?

I´m for homosexual romances. But if this is too controversial for some, then I´d rather have no romances at all than heterosexual ones only.

JE had both.  Personally it would not bother me if they had same sex romances in their games, it's another option.  

I would be upset if they just got rid of them completely for any reason.


I have completely lost my train of thought.  DA did have same sex romances, so I have no idea what I'm talking about and have totally lost track of the topic.  Going home and drink some margarita's.  If I can't think clearly, i might as well have a reason.  <_<

Modifié par mopotter, 23 juillet 2010 - 07:45 .

[wood123]

you seem to be the advisor here.. am married, no kids, got a house, a boat, two cars, two cats and some fishes. still want VR romance just4phun. what now. bring light

Llane Lightbringer wrote...

If you want to have a romance get a girlfriend ffs.

[mopotter]

C9316 wrote...

Well remembering the past threads about romances for M/M, F/F, and M/F I'd rather not have people behaving like five year old children just because they didn't get their way so I believe the best consequence is to simply take any chance of romance from both parties to teach them a well needed lesson.

Yes, but that means we all suffer and I'm against that.

[mopotter]

Tirigon wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Now this is just silly, if you don't like the romance options then just don't romance them instead of demanding the removal of all of them because it doesn't suit your tastes

It´s called fairness.

As my grandmother told my mom and my mother told me and I've told my step-daughter.  No one said life is fair.  Life isn't fair.  Probably never will be.   Wish it were.    

if I were younger, 19 or 20, I'd go into computer gaming and make the games I think are fun.  I'd add numerous romances, FF/MM/ MF and FM I'd have magic, space travel, mystery, good ol fashion sword fights, and lots of quest with a great story.  But I'm not young and it's too late for me.

BioWare games are good and while I would like more romance options I certainly don't want less. 

[mopotter]

Tirigon wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

What's next? The complain about not being able to marry Anora if your character is female?

That is indeed something that should be fixed, because it sucks. Luckily, there is a mod that allows women to marry Anora.

This is why I play DA on the pc.  MODS.  I found one that let me bring Ser Gilmore into the party so I don't have to send Alistair to have sex with Morrigan for what I consider a good ending.   Mods are great things.

[mopotter]

joriandrake wrote...

mochen wrote...

I thought the romances in DA:O added much to the game. However DA2 sounds like it's going to be quite dfifferent in the way you interact with NPC's, so I can't really say if romances will be good or not until I've played them.

To be frank my worst fear about romances in DA2 is that just as you are already predetermined to have a race and origin your character is also predetermined to have a single male/female romance/marriage option in the whole game, this would be even worse than the removal of all the romances

I don't know about worse tan no romance, but it would definitely be bad.  I hope they have at least 2 romance option for my male and 2 for my female.

I would also like them to stay or leave depending on my characters personality.  

I once told Leliana to leave, though I don't remember why and I killed Zev more than once.  I'm not sure I want my DA2 romance option to be someone who is always going to be in my party.  As much as I love the Alistair character, I like the idea of Zev and Leliana better.  

[Carmen_Willow]

More romance, not less. Certainly not "none."

[SaberBloodwork]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

More romance, not less. Certainly not "none."

This.

[Aradace]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

More romance, not less. Certainly not "none."

If anything...Leave it the same as the first game just allow for better....I guess "pacing" for the relationships I guess you could say for lack of a better way of putting it.  I dont want to be able to "bed" a party member just by merely "talking" to her enough....Make me work for it.  Make me save her hide a few times....Or come to her defense against slanderous comments made by NPCs....Etc. Ad Nauseum.

[JergenKajaton]

I don't really care one way or the other about romances. They don't really add anything to the game for me. It's not that their inclusion bothers me, it's just that I wouldn't miss them if they were gone. If I had any say in the matter, I'd probably vote for leaving in-game romances to the player's imagination. If you want to think that your character is romantically involved with an NPC, go right ahead, but I'd rather the design team spent their time and resources on things that actually contributed to gameplay.

(That said, imagining in-game romances kind of got me into trouble in Baldur's Gate. I spent the first game thinking of Imoen as my character's girlfriend. Imagine my horror when I played BG2 and found out that...)

[bzombo]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A controversial opinion among the Bioware fandom, I know. But I kinda feel like the discussions and kvetching about the various options, who should be, who shouldn't be, etc. overwhelm any other discussion. Not completely, it has to be said, but I dread something like the Tali crazies taking hold over the DA fandom. Thank goodness the "love" was evenly distributed among every character of DA:O...

I realize it is too late at this point, but no harm in making our voices heard as well, just to let the devs know that the dating sim aspect of the games are NOT the main selling point for everyone, and that it might have been refreshing to not have romances in this game?

i don't mind them, but if they're going to take resources from somewhere else and result in  a shorter game, i wouldn't mind them being cut.

[Davasar]

Actually, if they have no romances at all they could concentrate on things that might be considered more important to a majority of gamers. Maybe more story or something.



At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice. No why not lose the romance options to concentrate on "more important game features".

[joriandrake]

just becasue she was also a bhaalspawn she was not your actual sister

[Valmy]

Llane Lightbringer wrote...

If you want to have a romance get a girlfriend ffs.

Strangely more than just single people enjoy romance in popular culture.

[bzombo]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

More romance, not less. Certainly not "none."

isn't that what danielle steel novels are for?

Modifié par bzombo, 23 juillet 2010 - 06:49 .

[Aradace]

Davasar wrote...

Actually, if they have no romances at all they could concentrate on things that might be considered more important to a majority of gamers. Maybe more story or something.

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice. No why not lose the romance options to concentrate on "more important game features".

Actually, Im quite happy with only being able to play a Human....And I personally believe that romances should be kept...They add a degree of depth to your character.

[joriandrake]

Aradace wrote...

Davasar wrote...

Actually, if they have no romances at all they could concentrate on things that might be considered more important to a majority of gamers. Maybe more story or something.

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice. No why not lose the romance options to concentrate on "more important game features".

Actually, Im quite happy with only being able to play a Human....And I personally believe that romances should be kept...They add a degree of depth to your character.

having a choice in race also adds a degree of depth to your character

[Valmy]

Davasar wrote...

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice..

I think everybody would prefer race choices.  There are just reasons why some people, like me, might be ok with it.

Likewise if they sacrificed the romance options I would be ok if it made other parts of the game better enough to make up for it.

[Valmy]

joriandrake wrote...

having a choice in race also adds a degree of depth to your character

Sure.  But we are not having it for this particular game so hopefully we can have sources of depth from other sources.

But wait how does having a choice in race add depth to a character?  If your character is a dwarf is that character more deep solely you could have chosen to be an elf character?  I would say it makes the RP experience more varied and might add depth to a game but I do not really see how it would add depth to that particular dwarf character.  In fact not having that choice might make the game more dwarf centered and add depth to it as they would not have to lose resources working on the elf parts of the game.  That would be a sacrifice that may or may not be worth making depending on the circumstances. 

Modifié par Valmy, 23 juillet 2010 - 06:54 .

[Davasar]

Valmy wrote...

Davasar wrote...

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice..

I think everybody would prefer race choices.  There are just reasons why some people, like me, might be ok with it.

Likewise if they sacrificed the romance options I would be ok if it made other parts of the game better enough to make up for it.

Yeah, I see what you mean.  If they did make no romance choices, but improved game performance or some such, I can see people being happy with it.

[B3taMaxxx]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A controversial opinion among the Bioware fandom, I know. But I kinda feel like the discussions and kvetching about the various options, who should be, who shouldn't be, etc. overwhelm any other discussion. Not completely, it has to be said, but I dread something like the Tali crazies taking hold over the DA fandom. Thank goodness the "love" was evenly distributed among every character of DA:O...

 Yeah, I completly stopped looking at Mass Effect 2's forum page because of the clutter of "I Support" threads. It's cool to show support, but they went WAAAAY overboard and encroached on the "creepy" side.

[Davasar]

Aradace wrote...

Davasar wrote...

Actually, if they have no romances at all they could concentrate on things that might be considered more important to a majority of gamers. Maybe more story or something.

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice. No why not lose the romance options to concentrate on "more important game features".

Actually, Im quite happy with only being able to play a Human....And I personally believe that romances should be kept...They add a degree of depth to your character.

But, they could get rid of them and add more to the game in other areas.  That's what's been proposed for lack of race choice, so here it would be the same thing.

[joriandrake]

Davasar wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Davasar wrote...

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice..

I think everybody would prefer race choices.  There are just reasons why some people, like me, might be ok with it.

Likewise if they sacrificed the romance options I would be ok if it made other parts of the game better enough to make up for it.

Yeah, I see what you mean.  If they did make no romance choices, but improved game performance or some such, I can see people being happy with it.

the issue is, with all the things removed, there is not much remaining to be improved, it becomes like making a roof without an actual house under it

[Davasar]

joriandrake wrote...

Davasar wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Davasar wrote...

At least thats been the mantra of people who are happy with no race choice..

I think everybody would prefer race choices.  There are just reasons why some people, like me, might be ok with it.

Likewise if they sacrificed the romance options I would be ok if it made other parts of the game better enough to make up for it.

Yeah, I see what you mean.  If they did make no romance choices, but improved game performance or some such, I can see people being happy with it.

the issue is, with all the things removed, there is not much remaining to be improved, it becomes like making a roof without an actual house under it

So what you are saying is:  integral parts of the game that are taken out make for a less stable foundation for what you are trying to build.

I am not advocating one side or another, just clarifying.

But, I do see their point too.

No romances or race choices?  Maybe, but they could concentrate on other game aspects without these things cluttering their time.

[Mox Ruuga]

B3taMaxxx wrote...


 Yeah, I completly stopped looking at Mass Effect 2's forum page because of the clutter of "I Support" threads. It's cool to show support, but they went WAAAAY overboard and encroached on the "creepy" side.

Agreed, and I say this as someone who actually quite liked the Liara and Ashley romances of ME1. For what they were.

It might be good for these DA2 boards, that there are no romanceable companions returning for the "Warden" character. Instead we have a new character, and mostly new companions. One can only imagine what kinds of spam threads we'd be seeing right now if the Warden WAS returning: 1000+ page Morrigan thread, and panicky "support" threads demanding the return of the other three, all stinking up and cluttering the forum, sucking the air out of any other discussion.