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[UndercoverDoctor]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.

I agree.

[Solid N7]

slimgrin wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

Your wish has already been granted, many times over. Usually whenever a console-based publisher releases a multi-platform game.

However, If DA:O is one of the biggest sellers in Bioware's history, and the best platform for it was pc, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by snubbing this fanbase. 

are you in drugs????? how many times these pc gamers don´t understand DA:O is multi = PC, 360 and PS3 that is why sell more than mass effect 2:devil:

[Darth_Trethon]

I think that in the end all these arguments are futile. Developing next-gen games is insanely expensive to say the least and have to generate massive sales just to break even so like it or not BioWare has spoken.....consoles will rule.

[KalDurenik]

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

That is the thing. They should IMPROVE. Even if they have to change the inventory system only on PC they should do that. They should remove the "press press "yes" things from options. Higher textures and no fps limits and so on. Instead we will stay the same...

Edit: And now they will improve the Console version. However most of the time when devs do this. It mean "dumb the PC version down so that the console people wont complain that PC version > Console version.

Modifié par KalDurenik, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:43 .

[UndercoverDoctor]

Solid N7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

Your wish has already been granted, many times over. Usually whenever a console-based publisher releases a multi-platform game.

However, If DA:O is one of the biggest sellers in Bioware's history, and the best platform for it was pc, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by snubbing this fanbase. 

are you in drugs????? how many times these pc gamers don´t understand DA:O is multi = PC, 360 and PS3 that is why sell more than mass effect 2:devil:

Mass Effect 2 is multi platform also (besides the PS3). I'm assuming you forgot.

[Fraevar]

slimgrin wrote...

They have also said they will port TW2 to the console. So it will be interesting to see if they can do that platform justice. 

I admire CD Projekt's appoach, I really do. To admit that they can't handle doing all versions simultaniously and thus focusing on the platform where their fanbase is primarily located, making sure they get that one right first. I know there's usually a lot of controversy surrounding simultanious platform releases, but I would rather see BioWare take this approach with ME3 and wait 1-3 months for a proper PC version, than get an ME2-esque port.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:45 .

[iTomes]

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

[UndercoverDoctor]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I think that in the end all these arguments are futile. Developing next-gen games is insanely expensive to say the least and have to generate massive sales just to break even so like it or not BioWare has spoken.....consoles will rule.

Allowing BioWare's consumers to voice their opinions on a subject isn't futile.

[Solid N7]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

Your wish has already been granted, many times over. Usually whenever a console-based publisher releases a multi-platform game.

However, If DA:O is one of the biggest sellers in Bioware's history, and the best platform for it was pc, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by snubbing this fanbase. 

are you in drugs????? how many times these pc gamers don´t understand DA:O is multi = PC, 360 and PS3 that is why sell more than mass effect 2:devil:

Mass Effect 2 is multi platform also (besides the PS3). I'm assuming you forgot.

mass effect 2 is pc and 360 only  then DA:O pc, 360 and ps3:devil:

[Lord Gremlin]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

Your wish has already been granted, many times over. Usually whenever a console-based publisher releases a multi-platform game.

However, If DA:O is one of the biggest sellers in Bioware's history, and the best platform for it was pc, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by snubbing this fanbase. 

are you in drugs????? how many times these pc gamers don´t understand DA:O is multi = PC, 360 and PS3 that is why sell more than mass effect 2:devil:

Mass Effect 2 is multi platform also (besides the PS3). I'm assuming you forgot.

PS3 is 100% piracy free platform, very popular in Europe and Japan, so his point was valid.

[Fraevar]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I think that in the end all these arguments are futile. Developing next-gen games is insanely expensive to say the least and have to generate massive sales just to break even so like it or not BioWare has spoken.....consoles will rule.

Allowing BioWare's consumers to voice their opinions on a subject isn't futile.

What the Doctor said.

[tez19]

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

[JeanLuc761]

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

Loving the maturity level here guys.

[Chuvvy]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.

I agree.

No OP's saying that everything is going wrong because of consoles. Which isn't true. That's the first step in the PC gamers playbook. Blame console gamers.

[Aradace]

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd lock lol

[HemisH]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.

Some of the console people swearing at the PC gamers should relax a little bit. Like I previously said before, I also own consoles. I wouldn't want to see Uncharted, the newest Batman or Gears of Wars "PClized" on the console. Most people here are not attacking the console players or bashing consoles themselves. Both systems are very different and both sides don't want their side "contaminated" by the other.

I bet console players would sound like PC gamers if Dragon Age 2 system came before Dragon Age : Origins. Going from the strenghts of the console to a more PC like system on your console.

In most cases though, it's the PC getting a game streamlined from the console version, hence why they're the most vocal about this issue.

Modifié par HemisH, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:48 .

[UndercoverDoctor]

Can you stop with the insults and death threats please.

[Solid N7]

slimgrin wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!

Your wish has already been granted, many times over. Usually whenever a console-based publisher releases a multi-platform game.

However, If DA:O is one of the biggest sellers in Bioware's history, and the best platform for it was pc, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by snubbing this fanbase. 

are you in drugs????? how many times these pc gamers don´t understand DA:O is multi = PC, 360 and PS3 that is why sell more than mass effect 2:devil:

I was only speculating that pc players make up the majority of sales for DA:O. But maybe I'm wrong on this.

where are the pc sales?? the pc market is broken because the piracy also the console have piracys pecially the 360 , wii, psp and ds. But  the level of piracy in the pc is the reason many developers prefere to make console games.

[jableskage]

The Blue bird wrote...

jasonirma wrote...

Snippage

Alrighty, first of all, "console-izing" a game does not, as a rule, dumb it down. I'm sick of elitist Comp. gamers (not all obviously) thinking they're because they have more buttons.

Second of all none of what you wrote was dumbing down in any way. Save for the skills of IGN's writers, the three choice theory has been disproved since by one deveplopers.

Thirdly, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Hurlocks (the only enemy that has gone a radical change that we know of) weren't incredibly generic, along with large amounts of the artistic direction of DA:O.

You have to realise that BioWare is a business. Their job is to make money, if to do so they must alienate their "mature" PC fanbase whose been with them from the start, they will.

Well ME2 was dumbed down from the 1st to make the consoles more favourable a choice and guess what we PC owners have to live with it? I do not have high hopes for DA2, i have a feeling it will dissapoint many PC owners...

[Darth_Trethon]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I think that in the end all these arguments are futile. Developing next-gen games is insanely expensive to say the least and have to generate massive sales just to break even so like it or not BioWare has spoken.....consoles will rule.

Allowing BioWare's consumers to voice their opinions on a subject isn't futile.

This movement towards consoles is to generate huge sales and well a few dessenders on the forums(hundreds at most) aren't going to make a difference when the decission was made to create hundreds of thousands if not millions of sales. If we were arguing something lesss important than the GUI then maybe voicing dissent may have made a diiference but not in this case.

At any rate I LIKE where BioWare is going with DA2.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 23 juillet 2010 - 03:50 .

[JeanLuc761]

Slidell505 wrote...
No OP's saying that everything is going wrong because of consoles. Which isn't true. That's the first step in the PC gamers playbook. Blame console gamers.

I didn't get that impression, but the idea that PC games are "suffering" due to console versions does hold some validity.

Like I said earlier, the game should be tailored towards the strength of each platform.  The PC can handle better graphics and a more complex control scheme, so the game should have that in the PC version.  The console version should also be optimized with a more streamlined control scheme.

Many PC gamers (including myself) are slightly bitter from a considerable number of embarassing console ports that do nothing to utilize the strength of the PC (hell, some of them don't even bother to implement a proper interface).

[UndercoverDoctor]

jableskage wrote...

The Blue bird wrote...

jasonirma wrote...

Snippage

Alrighty, first of all, "console-izing" a game does not, as a rule, dumb it down. I'm sick of elitist Comp. gamers (not all obviously) thinking they're because they have more buttons.

Second of all none of what you wrote was dumbing down in any way. Save for the skills of IGN's writers, the three choice theory has been disproved since by one deveplopers.

Thirdly, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Hurlocks (the only enemy that has gone a radical change that we know of) weren't incredibly generic, along with large amounts of the artistic direction of DA:O.

You have to realise that BioWare is a business. Their job is to make money, if to do so they must alienate their "mature" PC fanbase whose been with them from the start, they will.

Well ME2 was dumbed down from the 1st to make the consoles more favourable a choice and guess what we PC owners have to live with it? I do not have high hopes for DA2, i have a feeling it will dissapoint many PC owners...

BioWare is trying to avoid this if you read information that is avaliable to you.