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#101
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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

thank you for youre comment towards my death. i really appreciate it. a hired assassin was paid to show you my appreciation. please be at home from 9pm-10pm on the 25th of july. thank you.

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Well, this is turning quite nasty. Really, I'm not concerned DA2 won't take advantage of the pc's capabilities, because DA:O already did.



In short, the op's worries are unfounded.

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HemisH wrote...

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Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.


So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.


Some of the console people swearing at the PC gamers should relax a little bit. Like I previously said before, I also own consoles. I wouldn't want to see Uncharted, the newest Batman or Gears of Wars "PClized" on the console. Most people here are not attacking the console players or bashing consoles themselves. Both systems are very different and both sides don't want their side "contaminated" by the other.

I bet console players would sound like PC gamers if Dragon Age 2 system came before Dragon Age : Origins. Going from the strenghts of the console to a more PC like system on your console.

In most cases though, it's the PC getting a game streamlined from the console version, hence why they're the most vocal about this issue.

So, it boils down to controls? Then it's console players who should worry - Bioware did a bad job with controls on consoles. On PC they already have fully polished system and they will keep it.
I hope they'll polish console controls as well. Selectable pets, please.

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.


So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.

I agree.


What frustrates console players like myself is more that bioware has said they are making an effort to improve the combat on the consoles but despite saying PC gameplay will be like origins, some pc fans have jumped to the conclusion that this means the PC version will be "dumbed down".

Not to mention I at least hate the use of the phrase "dumbed down" to describe anything having having to do with consoles as well as the insinuation that all console players are stupid.  (Not saying you do it but plenty I've encountered have.  I'm venting a little here)

Point:  Console gamers like me don't like it when pc gamers assume any changes made to improve the console version of the game means the whole thing is getting dumbed down for consoles

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iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

thank you for youre comment towards my death. i really appreciate it. a hired assassin was paid to show you my appreciation. please be at home from 9pm-10pm on the 25th of july. thank you.

*Offensive post removed*

Modifié par javierabegazo, 23 juillet 2010 - 06:06 .


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*shakes head* I knew this would happen....I hate being right sometimes >.>

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

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Snippage


Alrighty, first of all, "console-izing" a game does not, as a rule, dumb it down. I'm sick of elitist Comp. gamers (not all obviously) thinking they're because they have more buttons.

Second of all none of what you wrote was dumbing down in any way. Save for the skills of IGN's writers, the three choice theory has been disproved since by one deveplopers.

Thirdly, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Hurlocks (the only enemy that has gone a radical change that we know of) weren't incredibly generic, along with large amounts of the artistic direction of DA:O.

You have to realise that BioWare is a business. Their job is to make money, if to do so they must alienate their "mature" PC fanbase whose been with them from the start, they will.



Well ME2 was dumbed down from the 1st to make the consoles more favourable a choice and guess what we PC owners have to live with it? I do not have high hopes for DA2, i have a feeling it will dissapoint many PC owners...

BioWare is trying to avoid this if you read information that is avaliable to you.


I have read the info and the lack of reponses, ME2 wheel response, dumbed down combat, cartoony looking GFX... need i go on?

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

BioWare is finally realizing that consoles are superior to the PC and that the vast majority of their fanbase has been on consoles ever since the release of KotOR.

How exactly is the console superior to the PC? Oh right the last 10 times a console elitist scum like you tried to argue that point, you got annihilated.

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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

thank you for youre comment towards my death. i really appreciate it. a hired assassin was paid to show you my appreciation. please be at home from 9pm-10pm on the 25th of july. thank you.

where is my home then??
lol dumbarse
at least you developing cancer is a plausible scenario and one i would gladly welcome onto you.
please die slowly and painfully.
it would please me immensely.

Please stop, before this thread is locked again.

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In regards to tez and itome:

death threats over choice in gaming platform?



Faith in Humanity (-50)

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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

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Lord Gremlin wrote...

HemisH wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.


So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.


Some of the console people swearing at the PC gamers should relax a little bit. Like I previously said before, I also own consoles. I wouldn't want to see Uncharted, the newest Batman or Gears of Wars "PClized" on the console. Most people here are not attacking the console players or bashing consoles themselves. Both systems are very different and both sides don't want their side "contaminated" by the other.

I bet console players would sound like PC gamers if Dragon Age 2 system came before Dragon Age : Origins. Going from the strenghts of the console to a more PC like system on your console.

In most cases though, it's the PC getting a game streamlined from the console version, hence why they're the most vocal about this issue.

So, it boils down to controls? Then it's console players who should worry - Bioware did a bad job with controls on consoles. On PC they already have fully polished system and they will keep it.
I hope they'll polish console controls as well. Selectable pets, please.


Tbh in a perfect world they would make a unique interface and controlls for PC and another unique interface and controlls for the consoles. However they wont do this. So one side is either going to have "to much PC" or "to much console"

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

In regards to tez and itome:
death threats over choice in gaming platform?

Faith in Humanity (-50)


Entertainment factor - priceless.

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

In regards to tez and itome:
death threats over choice in gaming platform?

Faith in Humanity (-50)

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HemisH wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Jesus H. Christ, they've said so many times that PC is staying the same. You are ****ing retarded. Also even though I play games on PC I ****ing hate the PC user base. A bunch of elitist pricks, I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.


So because PC gamers want the game to be tailored to the strengths of THEIR platform of choice, while allowing the console versions to be tailored to the console's strengths, we're being elitist?

I so don't understand this logic.


Some of the console people swearing at the PC gamers should relax a little bit. Like I previously said before, I also own consoles. I wouldn't want to see Uncharted, the newest Batman or Gears of Wars "PClized" on the console. Most people here are not attacking the console players or bashing consoles themselves. Both systems are very different and both sides don't want their side "contaminated" by the other.

I bet console players would sound like PC gamers if Dragon Age 2 system came before Dragon Age : Origins. Going from the strenghts of the console to a more PC like system on your console.

In most cases though, it's the PC getting a game streamlined from the console version, hence why they're the most vocal about this issue.



I am console user and  I don´t care if console game is "PClized" because the things that matter to me is good history good characters and etc.. This is what bioware always do so I like all bioware games it doesn´t matter if DA:O was pc oriented etc. I love the game because I enjoy playing bioware games that´s the little difference between me and pc whinners.:devil:

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This thread needs to be closed its turned into nothing more than a console vs PC flamewar (PC rules). Where are the mods?

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C9316 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

In regards to tez and itome:
death threats over choice in gaming platform?

Faith in Humanity (-50)

Agreed.Posted Image

C9316's faith in humanity
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Aradace's faith in humanity...wait....it never existed so....It never got above 0 lol.

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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

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So.  Very.  Reported.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...



very best games on the market. In fact SW: The Force Unleashed came out in 2008 on consoles and had to wait a year before releasing on PC because the prices of the PCs advanced enough to run it were too high(~4000 USD).

You are incredibly stupid if you believed what the developers stated about TFU not being released on the PC initially due to it needing to cost $4000, you DO know that a PC at that time that only costs $800 with a single geforce 8800GT(which alone is more powerful than both consoles graphical capabilities) can run CRYSIS, a game which has VASTLY superior graphics and physics compared to TFU?

And along with the fact that that rig i mentioned now is DIRT cheap and already more powerful than you precious littleheater? Im sick and tired of 15 year old kids like yourself calling other people elitists when you are incredibly ignorant and being an elitist yourself.


EDIT: And i love how some of you console elitists start throwing death threats over the damn choice of gaming platforms, i play both the console and PC and i know the strengths and weaknesses of both platforms, but to seriously hand out death threats after calling us PC elitists? You just gave the word pathetic a whole new meaning.

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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

thank you for youre comment towards my death. i really appreciate it. a hired assassin was paid to show you my appreciation. please be at home from 9pm-10pm on the 25th of july. thank you.

where is my home then??
lol dumbarse
at least you developing cancer is a plausible scenario and one i would gladly welcome onto you.
please die slowly and painfully.
it would please me immensely.


do you actually realise that youre cancer comments are highly offensive and are usually not welcome in a forum, or are you actually even more stupid then i thought?? people with developing cancer could be here right now (even though i doubt it) and im sure people with relatives with cancer are here right now. theres an obvious difference between spaming and making comments like yours. but i guess you cant expect smart comics from some 13 year old boy (no offense against 13 year olds in common, only against this one) who goes in a forum and masturbates to the joy of trolling. youre sick, consult a doctor. or just kill yourself i dont care.

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jableskage wrote...

dumbed down combat,


Apparently you haven't read it all, otherwise you'd know the combat was staying the same on the PC

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They have also said they will port TW2 to the console. So it will be interesting to see if they can do that platform justice. 


I admire CD Projekt's appoach, I really do. To admit that they can't handle doing all versions simultaniously and thus focusing on the platform where their fanbase is primarily located, making sure they get that one right first. I know there's usually a lot of controversy surrounding simultanious platform releases, but I would rather see BioWare take this approach with ME3 and wait 1-3 months for a proper PC version, than get an ME2-esque port.


This! This! THIS!

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jableskage wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

jableskage wrote...

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Alrighty, first of all, "console-izing" a game does not, as a rule, dumb it down. I'm sick of elitist Comp. gamers (not all obviously) thinking they're because they have more buttons.

Second of all none of what you wrote was dumbing down in any way. Save for the skills of IGN's writers, the three choice theory has been disproved since by one deveplopers.

Thirdly, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Hurlocks (the only enemy that has gone a radical change that we know of) weren't incredibly generic, along with large amounts of the artistic direction of DA:O.

You have to realise that BioWare is a business. Their job is to make money, if to do so they must alienate their "mature" PC fanbase whose been with them from the start, they will.



Well ME2 was dumbed down from the 1st to make the consoles more favourable a choice and guess what we PC owners have to live with it? I do not have high hopes for DA2, i have a feeling it will dissapoint many PC owners...

BioWare is trying to avoid this if you read information that is avaliable to you.


I have read the info and the lack of reponses, ME2 wheel response, dumbed down combat, cartoony looking GFX... need i go on?

1) The dialogue wheel in Dragon Age II features a minimum of 5 options at a time, excluding a investigation type option which unlocks even more options. Some situations have less options, refer to the screenshot featured in the August issue of Gameinformer.
2) This has been disproved mutliple times. Read my earlier posts.
3) I don't know where you got the cartoony idea from. Go look at some of the higher resultion versions of the earlier screenshots. In my opinion they look great. It looks like Dragon Age at the same time with a stylized twist.

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I think Javier's having too much fun reading this to close it down.

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tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

tez19 wrote...

as an xbox 360 gamer i do not care whether the pc version is rubbish or not.
it would be nice irony as the pc elitists always tell us that we aren't real gamers and that they are the best nerds in the world, and for their version of the game to suffer due to it being catered more towards the console would be great!


this is only an opinion and youre entitled to that opinion but my opinion is that you should drink bleach and die. thank you for youre attention. sucker.

that is nice, but i would want the satisfaction of actually killing you. so please don't die any time soon unless you develop cancer and die a VERY slow and VERY painful death.
that would also please me.

thank you for youre comment towards my death. i really appreciate it. a hired assassin was paid to show you my appreciation. please be at home from 9pm-10pm on the 25th of july. thank you.

where is my home then??
lol dumbarse
at least you developing cancer is a plausible scenario and one i would gladly welcome onto you.
please die slowly and painfully.
it would please me immensely.

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