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Eventually, I played OVERLORD DLC. And (to no surprise) it SUCKED.


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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

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To be fair, gameplay over plot never did anything for anyone.
Oh, wait. Except for the entire first decade of video games, establishing the medium as a viable business.


Established medium evolved


Because no one bought Super Mario Galexy 1 & 2 right?

Who bought a Wii??



People say the Wii is the best of the three consoles, because it's the most family oriented. I disagree, I have an Xbox and it's just better than a Wii in every way. 




Can you have a deathmatch with Snake, Kirby, Ike, and young link on the 360?

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MarchWaltz wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

ShamieGTX wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Kroesis- wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

To be fair, gameplay over plot never did anything for anyone.
Oh, wait. Except for the entire first decade of video games, establishing the medium as a viable business.


Established medium evolved


Because no one bought Super Mario Galexy 1 & 2 right?

Who bought a Wii??



People say the Wii is the best of the three consoles, because it's the most family oriented. I disagree, I have an Xbox and it's just better than a Wii in every way. 




Can you have a deathmatch with Snake, Kirby, Ike, and young link on the 360?



Don't start a flame war.

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ShamieGTX

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wii's the CoD:MW2 of consoles

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ShamieGTX wrote...

wii's the CoD:MW2 of consoles


It flashes a whole lot, but when you really look at what it is, it isn't really good? 

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ShamieGTX

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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

ShamieGTX wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Kroesis- wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

To be fair, gameplay over plot never did anything for anyone.
Oh, wait. Except for the entire first decade of video games, establishing the medium as a viable business.


Established medium evolved


Because no one bought Super Mario Galexy 1 & 2 right?

Who bought a Wii??



People say the Wii is the best of the three consoles, because it's the most family oriented. I disagree, I have an Xbox and it's just better than a Wii in every way. 




Can you have a deathmatch with Snake, Kirby, Ike, and young link on the 360?



Don't start a flame war.

Not to be part of it but
No I cant, Though, Can you save the galaxy as everyone's favorite decision-making galactic heroe?  NO... I believe that awards me points and due to the comment being on the BioWare OWS i believe i gain 9999 bonus point in attack and slay your dragon...

Modifié par ShamieGTX, 24 juillet 2010 - 06:33 .


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You know what you should do?
You should get back at Bioware by not playing their game or coming to their site.[/quote]

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Glados: Now your thinking with portals. (this reminds me of the infinite loop you can make)

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The cake is a lie.

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kaimanaMM wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

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You know what you should do?
You should get back at Bioware by not playing their game or coming to their site.


This.


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This.


This.

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ShamieGTX wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Kroesis- wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

To be fair, gameplay over plot never did anything for anyone.
Oh, wait. Except for the entire first decade of video games, establishing the medium as a viable business.


Established medium evolved


Because no one bought Super Mario Galexy 1 & 2 right?

Who bought a Wii??


oh my bad, didn't realise your challenged, sorry I'll make is simplier.

Portal, had very little plot. But it diddn't stop it from being one of the most revolitationary games in a long time, one of the most successful new franchises ever and spawning crap tons of pop culture refrences. Games with out plot Are just as good as games with plot.

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Jigero wrote...

Portal, had very little plot. But it diddn't stop it from being one of the most revolitationary games in a long time, one of the most successful new franchises ever and spawning crap tons of pop culture refrences. Games with out plot Are just as good as games with plot.


It had a very basic plot, but then most games have at least a basic plot, even Mario. However you cannot deny that modern computer gaming is based on plot driven gameplay in the majority of cases even multiplayer centric games have some sort of campaign included.  It was never said that one was better than the other, just that the current day gaming tends to be mostly plot driven gameplay. Hence the established medium of gaming has evolved from simple gameplay to plot driven gameplay.
Besides the original comment was based on the Overlord DLC for Mass Effect 2. Personally I would hate to play any RPG (or action/RPG, whatever) if the game was based soley on gameplay and not plot.

Modifié par Kroesis-, 25 juillet 2010 - 01:48 .


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smudboy wrote...

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Actually that takes balls, especially if you find you're in the minority, and you don't find it "great", and the raving fanboys can't put together a cohesive argument.  One of the few reasons.
(Arguably I have no idea what Zuli is talking of half the time when he explains things, but his points are still valid.)

BS it take balls. Takes no balls whatsoever to criticize anything while using the anonimity of the interweb.

Right, silly me, having the honesty to write an opinion which you know won't be popular and everyone will call you a series of names because they never thought that way, and it's easier for them to attack you personally as opposed to having an intelligent discussion over.
Because all want to invite morons to our inbox.  Doesn't take balls at all to sift through even more crap one is ultimately asking for.


Generally, I seem to not agree with you Smud, but if people are abusive I can't say I agree with that either. Sometimes just posting less helps, if people are following the discussion not being the last poster doesnt mean you "lost" it just means the conversation has reached its usefulness.... for a while at least.
People just forget to breathe and end up flaming...

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@ everybody: Wow! I mean, really, just... WOW!!! Whiskey. Oscar. Whiskey. It's un-f*cking-believable, guys!


Now, replies to replies in order of appearance...


@ Mesina2: Nice family photo, dude! Got any more to share?


@ Reptilian Rob: Have I seen that face before somewhere?


@ Captain Jazz: If I were professional critic, I'd probably be writing some 10/10 "It's best game evah!!!" review for the next upcoming EA game. But there again, maybe it's my off hours, you never know...


@ FieryPhoenix7: One last time, I'm not Smudboy, OK? And yes, Ecael is a girl. Don't ask me for evidence, call it a hunch.


@ ADLegend21: Sue me.


@ RiouHotaru: Actually, I think ME2 plot is better, than Smudboy thinks it is. And I don't want everything to be expositioned and explained in every tiniest detail. I come up with explanations myself, whenever it is possible. When it's not possible, I call it a PLOT HOLE. And I don't want ME3 to "beat the player to death". I only want all the "BIG CHOICES" to be given value.


@ MarchWaltz: Yeah, I guess... (Re: standards)


@ Delta_Echo: Watch it, dude. Siding with Zulu is a heavy risk. You may be mistaken for him, just so, you seem to use the phonetic code thing in your nick too. So yeah...


@ ReconTeam: Yes, if you figure out what's with the bolds and italics in the OP, you'll learn the exact date of the USA surrender to China in the upcoming World War III.


@ Wiggles89: Zaeed certainly has his share of 2's cheeziness, but he bears it like a gentleman he is, with dignity. He is one of the 4 party members (in addition to Kaidan, Ashley and Jacob), that have unquestionable reasons to be actual combat squadmates. All other companions' presence on the team or at least availability for combat is more or less contrived. You see, blowing stuff up is a serious business IRL, so using amateurs for that in the game is a plot hole - one for each amateur. Zaeed ain't no amateur.


@ Wolfstanus: When Zaeed was 8 years old, he fell overboard and killed 35 whales. Barehanded. And a dozen baby whales. Just so I brought it up, you tell me what a baby whale is called scientifically?


@ Bluko: I am not a former BioWare writer, but I think that ME1 writing was way better than ME2 writing. And this is a major problem with me, because I thought ME2 would be all abpout the story, plot and writing, just like ME1 was. If I wanted some shooter gameplay, I'd play any of my favorite shooters, which include HL:OpFor, HL2, Doom3, FEAR, FEAR2, Chronicles of Riddick, CoD2, CoD4:MW, CoD:MW2, all of which are better than ME2. Zaeed's dialogue has no plot holes (trust me on this one). And your sarcasm detector seems to be OK. Although at the word "great" it could jam and require recalibration.


@ Nhani: Well, Peak 15 and Ilos didn't frighten you but they certainly put you in a mood of suspense. At Peak 15 you couldn't know or anticipate what was going on, on your first playthrough, and although you knew that on subsequent playthroughs, you could sorta reconstruct the mood to a degree. Ilos, on the contrary, gave me some real creeps about the place only on the 2nd playthrough, when I started to pay attention to some details... Overlord had nothing more than vapid sound and lighting effects, that could not build up the mood of suspense, simply because it was their only and too obvious purpose. When something is obviously done on purpose, it falls flat of achieving any lasting effect. The brain automatically cancels its validity. Same goes to the level wall paintjob. Kasumi, for instance, was great in that regard: all the art (Hock's main hall, vault, balcony view) was in its proper place, and it provided the story with the necessary setting, and therefore was justified (and the only thing wrong was the fluent gameplay range meter in the vault). In the Overlord all the art seems like out of place, and can't be enjoyed.


@ Lady light doorbell: When did I whine about the absense of squad mate chatter in the DLC? Don't bother, I didn't. Because I don't critisize what's not in there. I only critisize things that are there but could easily have been done differently, at the same cost and with better quality.


@ xStoneyx187x: I like the series. I have been liking it. But ME2 did a lot of damage to it. Therefore ME2 sucks. Not the ME series.


@ Maiq the Liar: Yes, Im such f genious i am, wit teh aft fingres lkie sausags. And as for the Fridge Brilliance, it happened to me with ME1. Not so with ME2. In fact, ME2 was pretty mush a standard Wall Banger, with most of its subtropes. And it was getting worse all the time on subsequent playthroughs. The last one resulted in this. Not more  than 25% of ME2 falls in the cathegories of "good stuff" and "awesome" in my books and even that in part on the ME1 momentum, where it wasn't curtailed.

@ Cra5y pineapple: yeah, we know. ME2 is a parody game, and a sequel not to ME1, but to this movie, as evidenced here. So we're just continuing to have fun here, pretending to take seriously the fact that the HHVI goofing about landscapes totally breaks our immersion. And, no, somehow, games are about plots. Always been:

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So, yeah... Nothing's changed. This is as good as it gets.

And the fanboys are actually right:

I don't have time for this crap. I have a galaxy to save.

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Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 25 juillet 2010 - 05:03 .


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Onyx Jaguar

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Peak 15 was just kind of there. Its hard to be frightened when you have a group of super soldiers with you

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Jonathan Shepard wrote...

kaimanaMM wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Deathreaper112 wrote...

You know what you should do?
You should get back at Bioware by not playing their game or coming to their site.


This.


This


This.


This.


This, again.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

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@ Cra5y pineapple:
yeah, we know. ME2 is a parody game, and a sequel not to ME1, but to this movie, as evidenced here. So we're just continuing to have fun here, pretending to take seriously the fact that the HHVI goofing about landscapes totally breaks our immersion. And, no, somehow, games are about plots. Always been:

 



Not all games have plots. I can list a few I you want me to.

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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

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@ Cra5y pineapple:
yeah, we know. ME2 is a parody game, and a sequel not to ME1, but to this movie, as evidenced here. So we're just continuing to have fun here, pretending to take seriously the fact that the HHVI goofing about landscapes totally breaks our immersion. And, no, somehow, games are about plots. Always been:

 



Not all games have plots. I can list a few I you want me to.


Zulu/Smud can't compute that, you are aware he is perhaps the most annoying troll on the forums.

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Enough. Locked for pyramid spam



I should hand out temp bans to a few users who well know that such pyramid quoting is spam, but i'll let you off it for now?