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[KappaOmicron]

Since i've seen so many Bioware people commenting quite freely on some of the threads regarding questions and discussions people have started, I would like to ask if any of you could tell us what the bad language level is going to be in Dragon Age II.

In DA:O I heard "bastard" often enough but perhaps there may be some moments in the game where putting "****ing" within a sentence to show your emphasis on the matter you are talking may be appropiate? After all this is an 18 game and I have read that there are much more decapitations now.

I would be most grateful if someone from Bioware could answer this, I would not hate DA:II if not, in a matter of fact i'm loving how it's sounding at the moment, this would just be a small plus for me and perhaps some others in the community.

I am not making a big deal out of this in any way what-so-ever, it is but a question where no matter the answer to it I will still be extremely excited and waiting patiently for DA:II

Thank you for reading this fairly long post.

[Saibh]

I don't think more swearing makes a game more mature, or any better. Honestly, I think it would jar in the setting of DA...it wasn't used in the first game extensively ('bastard' and 'b****' were about it), and it'd probably come off as gratuitous here.

Modifié par Saibh, 24 juillet 2010 - 12:29 .

[Grommash94]

I was pretty surprised at the end boss in Leliana's Song...I think he may have used more swear words in the two/three lines he says when you begin to fight him then the amount of cursing used in the entire game.

But, as Saibh says, cursing doesn't make a game more mature. Going overboard is detrimental to the setting.

Modifié par Grommash94, 24 juillet 2010 - 12:31 .

[NugWrangler]

I think the swears used in DAO were appropriate enough. It would be kind of immersion breaking to hear characters dropping f-bombs in a medieval fantasy setting. Ogrehn had some pretty creative vulgarities, adding something like that to the character's dialogue would be pretty funny.

[GodWood]

Since its a fantasy game I think in lore swearing would be more appropriate.

[Rubbish Hero]

Battlestar Galactica used the work "frak" every half sentence and it made it fee like it's own world. This game used "the maker" alot. Sadly, it just wasn't as good as Battlestar Galatica's "frak" as the maker and the chantry was very boring.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 24 juillet 2010 - 12:33 .

[BomimoDK]

well, having a badmouth character works untill it gets comical. I'd say we need some curses and swears that we can relate to. Let the blunt people curse harder and the soft people make longer sentences.

[Schuback]

Ohgren: By the ****** of my ancestors..

,,,, that was pretty vulgar

[Chuvvy]

Bastard wasn't used in a curse word context. It was used in it's intended context. And most of our "curse words" would have been used their intended form at around that time.

[KappaOmicron]

Sorry, you all miss-understood me, I was merely asking a question regarding the level of the language in this game, and also I used it being an 18 as a resource for saying that it can't really get any higher so adding more vulgar language wouldn't affect anything.



And I am not asking it to be humerous with the vulgar nor wanting Hawke and other characters in the game to swear 24/7 but I meant in certain scenarios such as someone betraying you for example after helping them or being pretty close to them, what would sound better in that situation?



You betrayed me!?

or

You conniving bastard!



Bear in mind the adrenalin kicking in as you see someone who you trusted stab you in the back, emotions can play a large part in how we would all act in a given situation.

[Chuvvy]

Schuback wrote...

Ohgren: By the ****** of my ancestors..
,,,, that was pretty vulgar

Ha, not in my household, of course I'm Irish Italian.

[KappaOmicron]

I am not asking there to be more vulgar language as a whole, just in given scenarios, it adds more emotion to a conversation/debate/statement.

[gotthammer]

I prefer "frell" and "yotz".

Yeah. Swearing's fine, IMHO, as long as the terms/words used are in line w/ the setting.



Also, the word 'bastard' in DA:O wasn't really being used much as a curse word, the few times I recall encountering. I mean, it is the proper term to describe one of the characters, after all.

[highcastle]

You have to walk a fine line with language. Curses used correctly can indeed add something to a scene or a character. Used gratuitously, it just becomes farcical. Especially in a fantasy game. The characters don't need to talk like mobsters out of a Quentin Tarantino flick.

In fantasy and SF, you need to think about what words would be appropriate for the setting. Most future-set SF can get away with the curses we use today, since their culture would have evolved from ours. But in a fantasy or counterpoint world made entirely separate from ours, reliance on modern slang can sound jarring...particularly if the world has a slightly archaic feeling to it. Granted, some of our curses are old enough to date back to those times. They just don't always sound it.

It's also important to note that curses reflect the culture that created them. In America, we tend to use sexual-based curses quite often. In Quebec, they use religious curses. Words gain and lose severity depending on the culture using them. In fantasy, this means you need to look at the society in question before assigning them appropriate curses. A culture built on free love, for instance, probably wouldn't use a lot of sex-based oaths.

[Ilifar]

I'm not sure if we'll see many of our curses besides those that have actual real meanings, such as bastard. DA has it's own unique curses, for the most part. I'm sure we'll continue to see things like Andraste's Blood, or Andraste's knickerweasels, but aside from that, I doubt we'll see much of our own traditional curses beyond "damn," "bastard" etc.

Modifié par Ilifar, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:42 .

[Behindyounow]

The words 'Fu-' 'Sh-' and 'Cu-' have been around for hundreds of years, so seeing them used wouldn't be an anachronism. Immature? Perhaps. Anachronistic? Nope.

[BlackyBlack]

If there's no swearing, it's less realistic. I swear all the time

[yummysoap]

A lot of people seemed to laude the Witcher for it's "mature" language, but god damn was some of that juvenile, as though the writers were taking any opportunity they could to be controversial.

I don't mind swearing, though. I like it, in fact, if it's suitable - but swearing in a game with a fantasy setting has always seemed odd to me. I guess I'll just have to see for myself.

The worst thing anyone can do is make their own special swears that I'm supposed to take seriously. Battlestar Galactica had me laughing my ass off everytime someone said "frak" with a serious tone. It's just so hilariously silly.

Modifié par yummysoap, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:57 .

[yummysoap]

EDIT:

FUUUUUUUUUU - double post.

Modifié par yummysoap, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:56 .

[C9316]

I try not to swear to much. That said I don't think we need anymore curses than Dam, and Bastard.

[Khayness]

Pike off you berk!

I completely support inventing unique swearwords to the Dragon Age universe.

Modifié par Khayness, 24 juillet 2010 - 01:15 .

[Bobad]

Lots of decapitation, impaling and splattered blood please, but no use of words out of context that may offend peoples social conditioning.

[Jimbe2693]

The swearing should fit with the lore, lots of Fuc-'s Shi-'s and Cun-'s don't fit in the dragon age world in my humble opinion.

[Shepard Lives]

Saibh wrote...

I don't think more swearing makes a game more mature, or any better. Honestly, I think it would jar in the setting of DA...it wasn't used in the first game extensively ('bastard' and 'b****' were about it), and it'd probably come off as gratuitous here.