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[Arttis]

More profanity please.

I almost never curse in real life.

[David Gaider]

dan107 wrote...
What about low-brow people that curse so much that they incorporate profanity into their everyday language? Surely there should be people like this in the Middle Ages? The Witcher did this well IMO - when you enter a seedy tavern you are not met by some kind of Shakesperean cast, you encounter a bunch of drunks cursing, gambling, and fighting. Makes the place feel authentic.

Maybe. I think at that point it's a question of style. If profanity is used that often, in my opinion, it becomes just background noise... which some people might consider a good thing, but which would also serve to lessen the impact of more occasional use.

In other words, I would not be interested in writing a character that used profanity as punctuation, even if it's plausible that such people exist. That such a character might use profanity more often, sure, but I'd rather it be indicative of their anger or used for emphasis than just because someone f***ing feels like it.

[Brockololly]

I demand Deadwood style profanity in DA2.  And yes, I also demand Ian McShane be somewhere in DA2. That man is epic beyond words.

Modifié par Brockololly, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:13 .

[David Gaider]

Brockololly wrote...
I demand Deadwood style profanity in DA2. 

Like this?



Writing the entire game in iambic pentameter would be tough. Thankfully f***, f***ing and m*****f***er provide a nice set of 1, 2 and 3-syllable words for you to use.

And yes, I also demand Ian McShane be somewhere in DA2. That man is epic beyond words.

Stop! Don't make me drool. A dwarven Ian McShane might cause my head to explode.

EDIT: Fixed link, okay? Stop getting on my goddamned case.

Modifié par David Gaider, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:45 .

[Arttis]

Who is Ian McShane?

[Kritanakom]

Mr. Gaider's link doesn't work? :'(

Edit: YOUR LINK DOESN'T WORK YOU SODDING THUNDER-HUMPER!!!

Modifié par Kritanakom, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:39 .

[joriandrake]

David Gaider wrote...

Brockololly wrote...
I demand Deadwood style profanity in DA2. 

Like this?

www.youtube.com/watch

Writing the entire game in iambic pentameter would be tough. Thankfully f***, f***ing and m*****f***er provide a nice set of 1, 2 and 3-syllable words for you to use.

And yes, I also demand Ian McShane be somewhere in DA2. That man is epic beyond words.

Stop! Don't make me drool. A dwarven Ian McShane might cause my head to explode.

no video shows up

[Kritanakom]

Fix your link, you mother-sodding nug-runner!

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...

And yes, I also demand Ian McShane be somewhere in DA2. That man is epic beyond words.

Stop! Don't make me drool. A dwarven Ian McShane might cause my head to explode.

Might I also suggest an EB Farnum type wormy, pathetic, sycophantic character played by William Sanderson? *sigh* I miss Deadwood.

On the topic of vulgarity, I 'd recommend an entire conversation consisting of nothing but profanity, like The Wire (NSFW)

Arttis wrote...

Who is Ian McShane?

The most badass, versatile actor around. Watch Deadwood. Its your duty as a living human being.

Al Swearengen is one of the best characters in fiction, IMO. He'd fit right in with the whole morally gray thing going on in DA.

Modifié par Brockololly, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:57 .

[dan107]

David Gaider wrote...
Maybe. I think at that point it's a question of style. If profanity is used that often, in my opinion, it becomes just background noise... which some people might consider a good thing, but which would also serve to lessen the impact of more occasional use.

In other words, I would not be interested in writing a character that used profanity as punctuation, even if it's plausible that such people exist. That such a character might use profanity more often, sure, but I'd rather it be indicative of their anger or used for emphasis than just because someone f***ing feels like it.

I see what you're saying, but I think that use of profanity is more indicative of a person's class, education, and overall upbringing rather than particularly strong emotions. An eloquent person can express visceral anger without cursing, and a drunk in a tavern can use f*ck 5 times in a sentence to say good morning.

I think profanity would be better used to distinguish the character of the person you're dealing with, not his emotional state. Just my 2 cents.

[Deviija]

Ick. No need for more added vulgar profanity. DAO had its own style of the profane. Let us not go down that ME2 route of ridiculousness, where name-calling and cursing like rebellious teenagers was the norm for these 30+ year old people.

[KappaOmicron]

David Gaider wrote...

dan107 wrote...
What about low-brow people that curse so much that they incorporate profanity into their everyday language? Surely there should be people like this in the Middle Ages? The Witcher did this well IMO - when you enter a seedy tavern you are not met by some kind of Shakesperean cast, you encounter a bunch of drunks cursing, gambling, and fighting. Makes the place feel authentic.

Maybe. I think at that point it's a question of style. If profanity is used that often, in my opinion, it becomes just background noise... which some people might consider a good thing, but which would also serve to lessen the impact of more occasional use.

In other words, I would not be interested in writing a character that used profanity as punctuation, even if it's plausible that such people exist. That such a character might use profanity more often, sure, but I'd rather it be indicative of their anger or used for emphasis than just because someone f***ing feels like it.

I agree with you completely, that was what I was getting at when I created this topic, I hope there are more tense dramatic moments within the story of DA:II where using just a little profanity in a sentence just brings out all the emphasis you need for telling someone that you have indeed been impacted greatly by whatever happend and that you also mean business.

I disagree with everyone who have stated they want a lot more vulgar language in a casual conversation, that wasn't the point I made nor asked.

[Arttis]

Sorry Brock I tend to ignore the duty I have as human being.

Meh I remember him from some movies...Did not stand out much.

[Saibh]

You know, there was very little swearing in DAO, which was a good thing--I heard bastard quite a few times, but in the literal sense. So, when you ask Alistair about Morrigan, and he responds by saying "she's a complete and utter b*tch" with such spite and venom, it not only gets a laugh, it convinces me he really doesn't like her.

Modifié par Saibh, 25 juillet 2010 - 05:30 .

[Cyberfrog81]

David Gaider wrote...

dan107 wrote...
What about low-brow people that curse so much that they incorporate profanity into their everyday language? Surely there should be people like this in the Middle Ages? The Witcher did this well IMO - when you enter a seedy tavern you are not met by some kind of Shakesperean cast, you encounter a bunch of drunks cursing, gambling, and fighting. Makes the place feel authentic.

Maybe. I think at that point it's a question of style. If profanity is used that often, in my opinion, it becomes just background noise... which some people might consider a good thing, but which would also serve to lessen the impact of more occasional use.

Well, what if the player character uses it sparingly? Shouldn't occasional use still have an impact then? Using the Witcher as an example again: Geralt is dry and cold. Not much emotion there. So when you at one point in the game can make him go, "Oh, just shut the f*** up!!", I almost want to cheer (you have to know the context, obviously).

But that is not to say I want this in DA2. "Pigeon crap" works for me.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 26 juillet 2010 - 12:32 .

[mopotter]

Saibh wrote...

You know, there was very little swearing in DAO, which was a good thing--I heard bastard quite a few times, but in the literal sense. So, when you ask Alistair about Morrigan, and he responds by saying "she's a complete and utter b*tch" with such spite and venom, it not only gets a laugh, it convinces me he really doesn't like her.

I agree.  Your example is a great one. 

Too much and it's just background noise.  My father cussed all the time, it was just part of his conversation.  When my mom let out a cuss word, I left the room, closed the door and turned on my music.  To me Cussing should mean something.    

[Bryy_Miller]

KLUME777 wrote...

KappaOmicron wrote...

Since i've seen so many Bioware people commenting quite freely on some of the threads regarding questions and discussions people have started, I would like to ask if any of you could tell us what the bad language level is going to be in Dragon Age II.

In DA:O I heard "bastard" often enough but perhaps there may be some moments in the game where putting "****ing" within a sentence to show your emphasis on the matter you are talking may be appropiate? After all this is an 18 game and I have read that there are much more decapitations now.

I would be most grateful if someone from Bioware could answer this, I would not hate DA:II if not, in a matter of fact i'm loving how it's sounding at the moment, this would just be a small plus for me and perhaps some others in the community.

I am not making a big deal out of this in any way what-so-ever, it is but a question where no matter the answer to it I will still be extremely excited and waiting patiently for DA:II

Thank you for reading this fairly long post.

There is going to be no swearing in the game beyond Bastard and what not, simply cos it doesnt fit the time frame and universe, it wouldnt feel right, imagine if LoTR sweared.

There was 'bullsh*t" in the SDCC demo.

[Bobbyj0]

can we have a lot more?

[cobretti1818]

DA:O had a perfect level of profanity imo. Sure, the drunks and bums in the street could be a little more vulgar, but they could curse in their own 'Dragon Age' way.



If you want lots of swearing, go play Alone in the Dark.

[Nerdage]

Hmmm... Anyone play the end of Onimusha 4? Nothing craps all over immersion like a badly placed swear-word. Though I wouldn't presume to try and give the writers specific tips on dialogue, I couldn't write a good story for my life.
And besides, they did an alright job of Origins, in their own way.

[Anarya]

Brockololly wrote...

I demand Deadwood style profanity in DA2.  And yes, I also demand Ian McShane be somewhere in DA2. That man is epic beyond words.

Oh you'd like that wouldn't you, you c**ks****r?!

Now there was a story with fantastic characterization. And hey, Ian McShane does voicework, Bioware *nudge nudge*

[LovelyLittleLeprechauns]

David Gaider wrote...



Like this?



Writing the entire game in iambic pentameter would be tough. Thankfully f***, f***ing and m*****f***er provide a nice set of 1, 2 and 3-syllable words for you to use.

Haha that would be hilarious. I would love to see someone from the Chantry just totally snap and go on a cussing spree. I would laugh for an hour. It would make my day.