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[Grommash94]

GodWood wrote...

langelog wrote...
Qunari sound similar to Mongols, they have a very powerful military of brutish men, with great combat skill. Qunari live in a far off foriegn land, but travel far away from home to spread their influence as they conquer distant lands just as the Mongols often did. Not sure about the Mongolian sense of honor, they were barbarians, who wished to serve the Khan. Qunari seem to have a very honor bound society, who choose death before dishonor. The Mongolian Empire was vast spreding from the korean pininsula to eastern Europe. I don't know the how much land the Qunari hold, but it seems that like the Mongols, they have had difficulty in holding stability within their territory.

The mongols however where far more tolerant of foreign religions then the qunari.

Oh and qunari fun fact: David Gaider said that qunari architecture is influenced by Mayan architecture.

The Qunari don't forcibly convert you to the Qun, IIRC, and a lot of former Chantry worshippers still worship the Maker, but follow the Qun, and the Qunari allow it.

I'd say the Qunari are more like the Ottomans though, not in terms of religion, but just their place in Thedas.

[mllrthyme]

The Qunari don't forcibly convert you to the Qun, IIRC, and a lot of former Chantry worshippers still worship the Maker, but follow the Qun, and the Qunari allow it.

I'd say the Qunari are more like the Ottomans though, not in terms of religion, but just their place in Thedas.

They don't forcibly conver you?  Isn't why they invaded Thedas, to spread the Qun to other lands?  I think I read somewhere in the codex that those who didn't convert were killed.

[BelSirk]

mllrthyme wrote...

The Qunari don't forcibly convert you to the Qun, IIRC, and a lot of former Chantry worshippers still worship the Maker, but follow the Qun, and the Qunari allow it.

I'd say the Qunari are more like the Ottomans though, not in terms of religion, but just their place in Thedas.

They don't forcibly conver you?  Isn't why they invaded Thedas, to spread the Qun to other lands?  I think I read somewhere in the codex that those who didn't convert were killed.

Nope, they don't killer the one who don't convert, only  become Slaves  , however some people don't like Qunari because they seem to be a lot of Left/Red/goomies for theirs like (because you will do the thing on which you are truly good and first are the group before yourself)


Personally, like a lot the Qunari, the only thing they seem to flaw (and only on comparison to the modern time) is the fact women and men are different for the task they do, however their hierachy it's  almost horizontal, everyone know the other and have   proud to who are them... they love science (or a least for big ka-booms)  and protect their childrens

Modifié par BelSirk, 24 juillet 2010 - 05:16 .

[Grommash94]

mllrthyme wrote...

The Qunari don't forcibly convert you to the Qun, IIRC, and a lot of former Chantry worshippers still worship the Maker, but follow the Qun, and the Qunari allow it.

I'd say the Qunari are more like the Ottomans though, not in terms of religion, but just their place in Thedas.

They don't forcibly conver you?  Isn't why they invaded Thedas, to spread the Qun to other lands?  I think I read somewhere in the codex that those who didn't convert were killed.

Right, sorry, they don't kill you if you don't convert, but they send you to work in prison camps, apparently. So they do forcibly convert, technically

[Riona45]

BelSirk wrote...
Personally, like a lot the Qunari, the only thing they seem to flaw (and only on comparison to the modern time) is the fact women and men are different for the task they do, however their hierachy it's  almost horizontal, everyone know the other and have   proud to who are them... they love science (or a least for big ka-booms)  and protect their childrens

I'd consider their penchant for country-invading to be something of a flaw.  And, although Sten may not represent all Qunari, he definitely struck me as being very blind to other cultures and ideas.

Modifié par Riona45, 24 juillet 2010 - 05:21 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

JergenKajaton wrote...
You can be as proud as you want, and as offended as you want, but I respect you too much to pretend that I respect your beliefs. If I ****-footed around the issue in order to avoid offending your delicate sensibilities, that would indicate a lack of respect, implying that I think you're weak and insecure. I don't. I operate under the assumption that you're strong enough and secure enough in your beliefs to tolerate the existence of worldviews different than your own.

If we are being honest here, I know your type, and I loathe your beliefs with more hatred than you could possibly fathom. Everybody is just lucky I can't transform that hate into force choking people.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 24 juillet 2010 - 05:20 .

[Grommash94]

Riona45 wrote...

BelSirk wrote...
Personally, like a lot the Qunari, the only thing they seem to flaw (and only on comparison to the modern time) is the fact women and men are different for the task they do, however their hierachy it's  almost horizontal, everyone know the other and have   proud to who are them... they love science (or a least for big ka-booms)  and protect their childrens

I'd consider their penchant for country-invading to be something of a flaw.

But, but...everybody's doing it 

[Riona45]

Grommash94 wrote...
But, but...everybody's doing it 

It's not a flaw exclusive to the Qunari (after all, Orlais is imperialistic), but at the current time, they seem to be doing it more often than other societies.  At least, that's the impression I've gotten.

[mllrthyme]

So we know the Qunari attempt to conquer other lands to spread their religious/spiritual philosophy, they practice slavery, they enjoy the use of gunpowder and cannons, cut out the tongues of their mages, leave their children to be raised by priests (Sten mentions that they don't have parents, I forgot the Qunari title he uses), and have architecture reminiscent of the mayan culture. I'm not so sure we have a real world counterpart to the Qunari people other than Mongolian. Thoughts, ideas?

[JergenKajaton]

ReconTeam wrote...

JergenKajaton wrote...
You can be as proud as you want, and as offended as you want, but I respect you too much to pretend that I respect your beliefs. If I ****-footed around the issue in order to avoid offending your delicate sensibilities, that would indicate a lack of respect, implying that I think you're weak and insecure. I don't. I operate under the assumption that you're strong enough and secure enough in your beliefs to tolerate the existence of worldviews different than your own.

If we are being honest here, I know your type, and I loathe your beliefs with more hatred than you could possibly fathom. Everybody is just lucky I can't transform that hate into force choking people.

Interesting. I don't recall stating anything about my own beliefs, other than that they're not Christian.

You were, however, correct when you said this discussion does not belong in this thread, which makes me wonder why you're continuing it after I agreed to drop it. If you'd like to continue the discussion privately, I'd welcome it.

[Grommash94]

mllrthyme wrote...

So we know the Qunari attempt to conquer other lands to spread their religious/spiritual philosophy, they practice slavery, they enjoy the use of gunpowder and cannons, cut out the tongues of their mages, leave their children to be raised by priests (Sten mentions that they don't have parents, I forgot the Qunari title he uses), and have architecture reminiscent of the mayan culture. I'm not so sure we have a real world counterpart to the Qunari people other than Mongolian. Thoughts, ideas?

I don't think the Qunari have any real world counterpart whatsoever when it comes to culture.

[wickedwizzard01]

The Qunari seem to me like the old Japanese empire, it is very much about Honor and would die for the Emperor (Antaam), Tal Vasoth could be the Samurai

i don't know if the Qunari have something like Harakiri or Sepuku

[BelSirk]

Grommash94 wrote...



I don't think the Qunari have any real world counterpart whatsoever when it comes to culture.

The most near to "Real worrld counterpart" it's  "militant islamic borg " and only it's from the rea lworld because the writer David Gaider  use that expression 

However.. long life to the Qun! (on DA of course)

[Batman90]

The Qunari are a combination of varying influences; Aztec and Middle Eastern, and maybe a little bit of the Japanese Samurai.

[Inquisitor Recon]

JergenKajaton wrote...
Interesting. I don't recall stating anything about my own beliefs, other than that they're not Christian.
You were, however, correct when you said this discussion does not belong in this thread, which makes me wonder why you're continuing it after I agreed to drop it. If you'd like to continue the discussion privately, I'd welcome it.

I've gotten good at reading people who make statements like yours, but indeed this isn't the place for such discussion and while I do occasionally like to type long-winded rants in caps lock, I don't think it would really be enjoyable.

[BelSirk]

Riona45 wrote...

BelSirk wrote...
Personally, like a lot the Qunari, the only thing they seem to flaw (and only on comparison to the modern time) is the fact women and men are different for the task they do, however their hierachy it's  almost horizontal, everyone know the other and have   proud to who are them... they love science (or a least for big ka-booms)  and protect their childrens

I'd consider their penchant for country-invading to be something of a flaw.  And, although Sten may not represent all Qunari, he definitely struck me as being very blind to other cultures and ideas.

oh well.. .that too but what is a world withouth war???  or better say what is fantasy setting wittouth war???? There must be someone who want something which belong to other for the setting be playable  :innocent:

[JergenKajaton]

ReconTeam wrote...

JergenKajaton wrote...
Interesting. I don't recall stating anything about my own beliefs, other than that they're not Christian.
You were, however, correct when you said this discussion does not belong in this thread, which makes me wonder why you're continuing it after I agreed to drop it. If you'd like to continue the discussion privately, I'd welcome it.

I've gotten good at reading people who make statements like yours, but indeed this isn't the place for such discussion and while I do occasionally like to type long-winded rants in caps lock, I don't think it would really be enjoyable.

Alrighty then. Enjoy your hatred. By the way, you're right: I probably can't possibly fathom it, because I posess very little hatred myself. Unless hatred of ex-girlfriends counts, but even that is really stretching the definition of hatred.

[Inquisitor Recon]

My friend, I live for the hatred, and the occasional game release, and booze. And when you combine those things it only gets better.

[JergenKajaton]

Wait a second. You hate me, and yet you refer to me as your friend? You're confusing the hell out of me.

I also don't drink, so there's strike two. But I wouldn't be on this board if I wasn't a gamer, so at least we have that in common. One out of three ain't bad, I guess.

Modifié par JergenKajaton, 24 juillet 2010 - 05:51 .

[mllrthyme]

@jln.francisco - oh my, there will always be people to offend. There will never be a shortage.

I do like your take on Sten, though. He was the perfect Qunari soldier, perfect that is until he met up with the warden and was able to experience the world in other ways outside the strict doctrine of the Qun. He seemed very closed-minded to me, and even questioned my gender because my character was a fighter and female. Apparently Qunari women can't be fighters. That's the realm of the Qunari man.

[Batman90]

mllrthyme wrote...
He seemed very closed-minded to me, and even questioned my gender because my character was a fighter and female. Apparently Qunari women can't be fighters. That's the realm of the Qunari man.

It would be interesting if a female Qunari went rogue, opposing her culture's conservative values, and became a party member in a future Dragon Age game.

[Inquisitor Recon]

JergenKajaton wrote...
Wait a second. You hate me, and yet you refer to me as your friend? You're confusing the hell out of me.
I also don't drink, so there's strike two. But I wouldn't be on this board if I wasn't a gamer, so at least we have that in common. One out of three ain't bad, I guess.

Well by confusing the hell out of you I am one step closer in my plan to accomplish... something. And I don't hate you, just possibly your beliefs and what you stand for. When I am emperor and you're up against the wall, don't take it personally okay? Maybe I will even be merciful and just send you to the gulag.

[mllrthyme]

Batman90 wrote...


It would be interesting if a female Qunari went rogue, opposing her culture's conservative values, and became a party member in a future Dragon Age game.

Agreed.  This would be just nifty.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Kranaos wrote...

 I've been thinking and Thedas holds many similarities to our own world and past. The Tevinter Imperium is basically the remains of the Roman Empire when it split up and crumbled. Orlais is France and Fereldan is Anglo-Saxon England. The Grey Wardens are a secret society of warriors much like the Templars of our world. Then the Templars of Dragon Age with their Exalted Marches are basically Crusades. Qunari feel like invading Islam in Spain with their y'know cannons and new religion. Oh and Adrastate is Jesus just how The Chantry is the Catholic Church and the Tevinter Imperium's Chantry is like the Orthadox church. Did anyone else notice these similarities and others while playing Dragon Age? 

Well thats disappointing, I was hoping that the OP had a crazy theory that Thedas is the real world but instead it was just about pointing out the obvious and David Gaider's lack of creativity.

Well that religious debate did look like it could have been fun but unfortunately it died before it could even begin.