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[IndigoWolfe]

As I played through Dragon Age: Origins for the first time, there was one thing I could not fathom, and that was the lack of horses. Or any equine-related means of travel at all.

So I wondered as I watched the tell-tale red trail go across the map screen; how is it that my band of fearless warriors, scoundrelous rogues --which I suppose is redundant-- and forever bickering mages got from one end of Ferelden to the other?

Answer; they walked.

Now, this had me sympathising with my aformentioned band of fearless warriors, scoundrelous rogues --still rather redundant-- and forever bickering mages. Especially Leliana; her feet were especially prone to blistering.

But the further I investigated this harsh reality, the more I understood the terrible injustice it entailed.

As it turns out; they even took turns riding on Dog.

Sten even had to carry Alistair into the nearest town at one point. That mouthy bastard prince didn't dare show his mug outside the inn's room for almost two days.

So walking is quite a bother, however, there for the Dalish elf, the halla would be an alternative. It would be, if the Dalish elf weren't banned from even coming within fifteen feet of the clan's halla by the Keeper herself. In short; there was a previous incident that proved gravely embarrassing to all parties involved. I think that included the future Warden, Tamlen --clad only is his "Not A Redshirt" boxers--, a mariachi-impersonating Fenarel, a thoroughly wasted Maren and by the end, a distinctly mortified Keeper Marethari.

Ever wonder why Marethari's hair is all white? The infamous "Halla Incident" was the reason.

So, there are no horses and halla aren't an option. I suppose that still leaves one alternative. But there is a different between an alternative and a viable option.

Let me explain;

So, our options are walking --due to the entire lack of a single horse seen in DAO-- and the cows.

Now, I did see quite a few cows in Dragon Age. However, there was the small problem of all of them being mauled to death.

And as tempting as the prospect might be to some, riding a zombie cow simply messes up the Chuck Norris/Angelina Jolie-esque mojo that flows ever so freely with any Grey Warden.

So, zombie cows; not cool.


Now, in Dragon Age 2, Bioware have the option of including horses in Dragon Age 2. Now, I'm no hardcore equestrian by my own admission, but they're good companions. Especially in a fantasy game.

And I'm not asking they be implemented as a gameplay and combat mechanic, perhaps just something you see at camp.

Just don't make my party walk from one end of Ferelden, or --as I suspect-- all of Thedas, on foot! Good chances for building character notwithstanding!

If you support horses for a method of transport for DA2, or simply an equine presence in the game, then join this group

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:05 .

[Behindyounow]

Nah. The game isn't open world, so there's really no need for them.

[IndigoWolfe]

Behindyounow wrote...

Nah. The game isn't open world, so there's really no need for them.

As I said, you wouldn't need to be riding around of them, or really have them available to the player at all. Just have them be seen to give at least the illusion that the player would be able to cross great distances faster than he or she could on foot.

[Bobad]

I like the idea but the implementation would probably detract from other areas of the game, as Behindyounow said it isn't open world so their use would be limited at best.

Modifié par Bobad, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:02 .

[Captain Crash]

not needed and dont particularly want either

[Bruno Hslaw]

If memory serves right there is a mention of riding creatures, presumably horses. When chatting about Halla's, in DAO. The reason that they are not included is that the game world is far to small for their inclusion. You would cover a map in a few seconds by horse. Then it would be constantly dismounting for every battle (I suppose you want mounted combat as well)

[IndigoWolfe]

Behindyounow wrote...

Nah. The game isn't open world, so there's really no need for them.

As I said, you wouldn't need to be riding around on them, or have them for the player character at all. Just have them be seen, to at least give the idea that the player character could cross great distances faster than on foot.

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:06 .

[Anarya]

Walking: good enough for Frodo, good enough for you!



Seriously though, I thought the animal models on the whole were kind of...bad in Origins. The bear model was especially bad. Like a peanut with teeny little legs. I shudder to think what horses would have looked like. If they can't make horses look as good as in games like Shadow of the Colossus or Red Dead Redemption then I support their decision to cut them entirely.

[IndigoWolfe]

Bruno Hslaw wrote...

If memory serves right there is a mention of riding creatures, presumably horses. When chatting about Halla's, in DAO. The reason that they are not included is that the game world is far to small for their inclusion. You would cover a map in a few seconds by horse. Then it would be constantly dismounting for every battle (I suppose you want mounted combat as well)

No, actually I do not want mounted combat. And if you'll read carefully, you'll see I was talking about travel across the map screen, not the environments available for exploration.

[IndigoWolfe]

Anarya wrote...

Walking: good enough for Frodo, good enough for you!

Seriously though, I thought the animal models on the whole were kind of...bad in Origins. The bear model was especially bad. Like a peanut with teeny little legs. I shudder to think what horses would have looked like. If they can't make horses look as good as in games like Shadow of the Colossus or Red Dead Redemption then I support their decision to cut them entirely.

A very good point; the animal models didn't stand out in the quality department. But I think with the extra attention that Bioware said they are giving to the visuals and the graphics in Dragon Age 2, they stand a chance of looking far better.

[AlexXIV]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Bruno Hslaw wrote...

If memory serves right there is a mention of riding creatures, presumably horses. When chatting about Halla's, in DAO. The reason that they are not included is that the game world is far to small for their inclusion. You would cover a map in a few seconds by horse. Then it would be constantly dismounting for every battle (I suppose you want mounted combat as well)

No, actually I do not want mounted combat. And if you'll read carefully, you'll see I was talking about travel across the map screen, not the environments available for exploration.

The problem I see in Dragon Age (or any other RPG) is that if there were horses, why wouldn't anyone use them? There was hardly any army in medivial times that didn't use horses. So better not have them at all.

[IndigoWolfe]

AlexXIV wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Bruno Hslaw wrote...

If memory serves right there is a mention of riding creatures, presumably horses. When chatting about Halla's, in DAO. The reason that they are not included is that the game world is far to small for their inclusion. You would cover a map in a few seconds by horse. Then it would be constantly dismounting for every battle (I suppose you want mounted combat as well)

No, actually I do not want mounted combat. And if you'll read carefully, you'll see I was talking about travel across the map screen, not the environments available for exploration.

The problem I see in Dragon Age (or any other RPG) is that if there were horses, why wouldn't anyone use them? There was hardly any army in medivial times that didn't use horses. So better not have them at all.

You could have NPCs atop horses in places like the Denerim Marketplace, simply stationary. And you could impliment them in cutscenes.

[Gaxhung]

From this article CGSociety interviews 'Dragon Age Origins' Art Director Matthew Goldman. (22 July 2010)

"But for some reason, horses are not a main part of the Dragon Age
experience. You would think that horses would be everywhere in a
medieval style game. “Well we keep trying to do horses and it never
seems to take off. One day we’ll figure out how to make this fun with
multiple party members. We almost got it this time,” says Goldman,
smiling."

[Danjaru]

Yeah, I actually noticed the lack of horses throughout the world. Even if they're not available for the PC (which would make no sense as the game isn't open worlded) it would be nice to see some around, even certain NPC's sitting on one or whatnot.

Modifié par Danjaru, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:31 .

[Rubbish Hero]

Putting horses in is a terrible idea, you should ask a mod to locke the thread.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 24 juillet 2010 - 02:42 .

[CalJones]

Not a fan of horses (in games, at any rate...I did use to ride). Oblivion was an open world game but the horses in that were a pain - it was always much more satisfying to run anywhere. They wander off, get eaten and you have to dismount to fight anything.

I understand they're done a lot better in Mount and Blade, which I haven't played, but DA doesn't really need 'em.

[Abiogenist]

Instead of horses, they do have mabaris. But how they use these hounds for transportation... I'll leave that to you.

[joriandrake]

horses are not the most lacking thing in the game although i would like them, but first, before adding them, bioware should realize that the years is 2010 and create games where the character can swim/jump/run/climb/dive and fly, what is not just making the game really three dimensional, but also allows a LOT more options for story telling, level design, and puzzle/humorous situation placements

[ILIAS R]

Gryphon's maybe would be nice (combined with some aerial combat) an open ended world would be even more nice with some rewards for exploring(not plot or gameplay affiliated (clothes armor story cookies )) with the right paths and maybe lot's and lot's of dlc i think a horse is n ot much to ask after that .

[Legbiter]

No horses in DA 2.

[HTTP 404]

horses are darkspawn! I much rather see darkspawn on horses than see it in DA2. horse combat is hard to make fun.

[StreetlightEagle]

Exactly. Even Cailan says something about the king of Ferelden 'riding into battle alongside the famed grey wardens' then it shows them fighting on foot. Also, in The Stolen Throne, horses feature prominently.

[Chuvvy]

Yeah, I'd be fine with seeing them. No mounted combat, but that's not what op is talking about.

Modifié par Slidell505, 24 juillet 2010 - 04:11 .